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November 7th, 2007

Leopard file move bug zaps data

Posted by David Morgenstern @ 12:59 pm

Categories: Leopard

Tags: Apple Macintosh, Network, Apple Inc., Leopard, Apple Mac OS X, Apple Mac OS, Desktops, Operating Systems, Software, Hardware

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While we wait for LeopardOnline sources replicate a bug that destroys data when moving files around Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard. The problem can occur with local and remote storage, the sites say.

The most compelling reason not to upgrade yet to Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard cropped up earlier this week with Tom Karpik’s blog warning of a Massive Data Loss Bug in Leopard. It seems that if you Move (not Copy) files to another disk or network volume, all of your data may disappear.

Leopard’s Finder has a glaring bug in its directory-moving code, leading to horrendous data loss if a destination volume disappears while a move operation is in action. I first came across it when Samba crashed while I was moving a directory from my desktop over to a Samba mount on my FreeBSD server.

Ric Ford’s Macintouch news site confirms the problem for network shared and expanded it to local connected FireWire drives.

Most often Leopard uses the Copy command instead of the Move command, so this may not affect most Mac users. You have to specifically invoke Move by holding down the Command key. When dragging files around in the Finder, the Copy status shows a green dot with a plus sign in it.

A number of developers I’ve pinged in the past week pinged expressed disappointment about Apple’s process for the Leopard Golden Master. Apple didn’t circulate the GM version to developers before release. Some bug fixes were dropped, while others were introduced in the days the launch.

“I don’t know why I bother [with the beta releases],” said one longtime Mac vendor. “I should just wait for the [final] release like everyone else. This is much worse than [with] Tiger.”

Read More in Developers Remain In the Dark About Leopard GM Bug Fixes.

Perhaps it’s time for Apple to bite the bullet and put a moratorium on Leopard upgrades?

Apple must have known there were problems with the Leopard Installer and with the release itself. But the company (or should we say Steve Jobs) weighed the choices: wait another couple of months and lose face and revenue for the quarter, or release an under-cooked product and hope that the early adopters are backed up. They appear to have gone with the latter path.

For more posts on the Leopard Update, check out:

  • Leopard Time Machine: Don’t trust it yet
  • Leopard’s installer: The case of the disappearing volumes
  • How much do you LOVE Mac OS X Leopard?
  • Apple says to Archive and Install Leopard
  • David MorgensternDavid Morgenstern has covered the Mac market and other technology segments for 20 years. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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    re: Um it's not a work around it's how I've always done it.
    Jim:

    Actually, it *is* a "workaround", albeit an official one. Until the Mighty Mouse and/or third-party USB rodents were available for Macs, you guys were stuck with one-button mice. (I know-... (Read the rest)
    Posted by: M.R. Kennedy Posted on: 11/08/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
    And I thought Vista was bad  nucrash | 11/07/07
    Hi I'm Mac  Heatlesssun1 | 11/07/07
    I never liked...  crampy20 | 11/07/07
    really?  Badgered | 11/07/07
    Maybe its because Im brittish and your american (nt)  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    crampy ... which machine & OS do you use?  TG2 | 11/08/07
    This is a useless exercise, not the discussion I want to get into (nt)  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    So your a MAC user huh? Thought so. NT  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 11/08/07
    huh? i use...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    so...  Badgered | 11/08/07
    Maybe if it was Benny Hill as the Mac and Queen  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 11/08/07
    Taking potshots at the UK...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    Apple didn't run the same ads there...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    Yeah, but  laura.b | 11/08/07
    LOL, Good one despiite what Crampy said!! Nt  JustAnAboveAverageJoe | 11/07/07
    I thought it  Blogsworth | 11/07/07
    RE: Leopard file move bug zaps data  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 11/07/07
    If you do, make sure it comes installed  GuidingLight | 11/07/07
    Oop.: That was a response to nucrash. (nt)  GuidingLight | 11/07/07
    Awww...  nucrash | 11/07/07
    How to buy a Mac with Tiger?  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    At this point, I wouldn't argue with you  nucrash | 11/07/07
    absolutely, it is even worse than vista  rhon@... | 11/08/07
    Message has been deleted.  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    Complaints about Vista  nucrash | 11/08/07
    Well then this is a pretty lame bug  nucrash | 11/07/07
    So we should never use Wireless then?  georgeou | 11/07/07
    Depends on how you mean lame.  maldain | 11/07/07
    Look all the waterboys  SquishyParts | 11/07/07
    Bug  Cindy Joffrion | 11/07/07
    bug yes.. bad yes... effects almost no one... yes..  doctorSpoc | 11/07/07
    Why would you fear losing your data in Windows?  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    windows does not delete your files moving them never had after moving  SO.CAL Guy | 11/07/07
    err...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    re: bug yes  Badgered | 11/07/07
    I just realized why OS X discourages file moves  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    Not quite that easy  frgough | 11/07/07
    Maybe YOU will on OS X  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    No, in Windows  frgough | 11/07/07
    frgough tried it and your wrong sorry to tell you (NT)  SO.CAL Guy | 11/08/07
    Your wrong...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    Actually, that's not quite accurate  maldain | 11/07/07
    You're a fool to move your data  frgough | 11/07/07
    I can tell you are lying when your fingers are typing  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    It's easy enough to test.  frgough | 11/07/07
    You know what, though?  laura.b | 11/08/07
    Missing my point.  frgough | 11/08/07
    The reason she missed your point ...  ShadeTree | 11/08/07
    I see what you're saying  laura.b | 11/08/07
    Wow, you were right!  NonZealot | 11/08/07
    Sounds like you are repeating your arguement...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    What about you spreading your anti mac crud? (nt)  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    Well  Badgered | 11/08/07
    Sigh.  frgough | 11/08/07
    hmm, sigh indeed  Badgered | 11/08/07
    Wrong again.  ShadeTree | 11/08/07
    Not so much.  ShadeTree | 11/08/07
    re: You're a fool to move your data  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07
    frgough sorry your wrong i tried everything i could to get the error your  SO.CAL Guy | 11/08/07
    Why is Apple's programming so bad?  tonymcs@... | 11/07/07
    Very true.  frgough | 11/07/07
    Ah, but do they switch?  NonZealot | 11/07/07
    Same reason people stick with windows  maldain | 11/07/07
    Dow down Oil Up: Leopard on Day 13 is not a crisis  DannyO_0x98 | 11/07/07
    The difference is  frgough | 11/07/07
    re: The difference is  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07
    Disaster? Have you even used Leopard...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    re: Very true.  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07
    IT SOUNDS LIKE  Shelendrea | 11/07/07
    Welcome shills!  SquishyParts | 11/07/07
    As if!  ShadeTree | 11/08/07
    You've only brocken the law if you get CAUGHT..:P  Laff | 11/08/07
    some more mth busting  SquishyParts | 11/07/07
    seriously?  rtk | 11/07/07
    Shoot the messenger  frgough | 11/08/07
    Ah, so you usually have no argument?  NonZealot | 11/08/07
    Anything that is "funded" by a business...  crampy20 | 11/08/07
    What about the Onion then?  rtk | 11/08/07
    RE: Leopard file move bug zaps data  dabeenk | 11/07/07
    RE: Leopard file move bug zaps data  Laff | 11/08/07
    Wow, OS X is TERRIBLE!!  NonZealot | 11/08/07
    Well see it's my nature not OSX.....  Laff | 11/08/07
    re: Wow, OS X is TERRIBLE!!  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07
    I like it...not perfect but then again with the exception  Laff | 11/08/07
    The CARDINAL rule-  justanitguy | 11/08/07
    Pagan here....Cardinal's don't mean much too me..:)  Laff | 11/08/07
    OS X "Move" command  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07
    Um it's not a work around it's how I've always done it.  Laff | 11/08/07
    re: Um it's not a work around it's how I've always done it.  M.R. Kennedy | 11/08/07

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