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October 17th, 2008

All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?

Posted by Jason D. O'Grady @ 11:01 am

Categories: Firewire, Video

Tags: Camcorder, USB, FireWire, Consumer Electronics, Personal Technology, Jason D. O'Grady

All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?Peter Kirn from Create Digital Music disagrees with Steve Jobs alleged statement that “all new HD camcorders use USB” in response to the death of Firewire kerfuffle.

Whether Jobs said it or not, isn’t the point — the point it that it’s wrong.

All HDV cameras I know of rely on FireWire for transfers, including some Canon models that are wildly popular with indie producers.

The installed base of FireWire camcorders is still enormous — even for HD.

Most pro and semi-pro cameras continue to use FireWire, because HDV remains preferred over AVCHD. And many pros, in turn, buy non-Pro MacBooks and use them for on-the-road capture, especially as they have lots of other gear to budget for and invest in and may use Mac Pros in the studio.

FireWire is the *preferred* format for multichannel audio interfaces.

Many people have vast investments in FireWire-only storage, which still typically outperforms (even FW400) USB2 drives. And Apple didn’t offer the logical alternative, eSATA, even on the Pro — despite the popularity of eSATA over FW800 for high-end drives.

Apple just pushed FireWire by working with Apogee on the Duet audio interface, and Apogee made it Mac-only. (Hey, Apogee — maybe time to work on Windows drivers?)

In other words, this is all pretty much BS.

Well said, Peter.

It looks like my prediction from 2005 may be coming true, after all.

Jason D. O'GradyJason D. O'Grady is the editor of PowerPage.org, which has been publishing daily mobile technology news since December 1995. For disclosures on Jason's industry affiliations, click here or to view Jason's full profile click here.

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  • Talkback
  • Most Recent of 26 Talkback(s)
Actually they All do have USB
actually Jobs is right about the USB. Both HD camera's do
have USB, yes they might have a Firewire connection on the
camera itself but it connects through a USB connection on
the other si... (Read the rest)
Posted by: rhon@... Posted on: 10/20/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
So what?  sigma2 | 10/17/08
Sure. $700 for a FireWire port. Why not!  BitTwiddler | 10/17/08
The $999  frgough | 10/17/08
I think you're WRONG! Check the apple store.  Scubajrr | 10/17/08
no, he is right.  lostarchitect | 10/17/08
You didn't read the fine print  MGP2 | 10/17/08
ha, that would be horrible! (n/m)  lostarchitect | 10/17/08
No firewire.  Tigertank | 10/17/08
yes. firewire.  lostarchitect | 10/17/08
$700 for a firewire Port...I don't think so.....  dunn@... | 10/20/08
The Macbook isn't a Pro machine...  aslam_nathoo | 10/17/08
I hope $300 cameras are not profesional category  Radek7 | 10/17/08
What a rather strange argument.  Bozzer | 10/19/08
RE: All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?  Beneditor | 10/18/08
Because...  Bozzer | 10/19/08
RE: All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?  raemix | 10/18/08
very dumb arrogant move  keel | 10/18/08
Bunch of crybabies..here, get one for $6  Prognosticator | 10/18/08
Re: Bunch of crybabies...  ttrtilley@... | 10/18/08
This would be amazing if he can make it work in a regular MacBook  nix_hed | 10/20/08
1394=MPEG2([H]DV) Tape, USB = MPEG4/other media  Joe_Raby | 10/18/08
Most legacy camcorders are still Firewire  keel | 10/18/08
eSATA doesn't have bus power ATM AFAIK  nix_hed | 10/20/08
RE: All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?  ZDNeX | 10/18/08
RE: All new HD camcorders use USB? Really?  ABrill99 | 10/19/08
Actually they All do have USB  rhon@... | 10/20/08

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