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May 27th, 2009

Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap

Posted by David Morgenstern @ 10:20 am

Categories: Apple, Clone, Psystar

Tags: Apple Macintosh, Psystar, Desktops, Hardware, David Morgenstern

According to Mac clone maker Psystar, it wasn’t the continuing pressure of Apple’s legal department, nor its dubious technological and market proposition, that did the company in. Rather, it was the economy and its declining profit margin. Potential customers should be thankful that they dodged a bullet.

In a Between the Lines blog post from my colleague Larry Dignan, Psystar’s filings with the bankrupcy court tell the company’s side:

Due to the weakened economy, Debtor has had no alternative but to commence these Chapter 11 proceedings. Debtor sales have been greatly affected by the decrease in consumer spending. The financial crisis has also caused creditors to tighten up their terms and become more demanding for immediate payment. Debtor’s vendors due to their own financial problems are not being able to supply all necessary items to allow Debtor to produce their product, thus, forcing Debtor to pay higher prices for parts in order to fulfill customer orders in a timely manner and to assure satisfaction with the product. These factors seriously contribute to the Debtor not being able to turn a significant profit in each sale.

As I wondered a year ago,  were there really enough suckers in the Mac market (or who want to be in the Mac market) to buy these machines? In the post, I ran down the companies that were in the Mac clone market in the mid-1990s, when Apple signed licensing agreements and how that situation differed from Psystar’s situation.

Where was the value proposition for Psystar customers? Could Psystar could offer a more reliable piece of hardware than Apple; a faster machine; or one with better industrial design? The answer had to be ‘no’ on all counts.

The answer appeared to be entry-level costs and that couldn’t be sustained by Psystar.

Certainly, quality as expressed in a particular piece of mass-produced computing hardware can be a hit-or-miss proposition. Some computers are great and reliable while others are lemons.

Still, in the Mac licensing era, I bought a clone for my daughter who was in college. It didn’t last through her sophomore year — there were too many problems and the subsequent technical support calls to her father. I seem to remember that a serial port blew out and other intermittent issues that were obvious hardware related. A “real” Mac, on the other hand, provided a very reliable experience well beyond graduation.

Driving cost savings on the component level can only go so far, as PC companies such as Dell have discovered. Quality is often found not in the performance we find when the computer is unpacked, but over time; sure, a box can pass its first week’s burn-in period, but come up lacking in reliable performance after 18 months or so.

Within reach in my office are a few older Mac models, many years old, that run Mac OS X and still work fine. I wouldn’t trade any of them for a new Psystar.

David MorgensternDavid Morgenstern has covered the Mac market and other technology segments for 20 years. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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Re: Curious  meelder | 05/27/09
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I don't really care. It's the MS users and shareholders that care most.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 05/27/09
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reply to below  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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to guiding light - you are right  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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@llucas7086  john@... | 05/28/09
You don't care? Hardly.  Rob Oakes | 05/27/09
I think you are halucenating! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 05/27/09
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Do as you will. That's your choice. A choice not granted by the MS monopoly  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 05/27/09
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RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 05/27/09
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RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
TO: LLucas7086  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
As you requested...  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
Not my responsibility to produce the data for you  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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yes it is getting old  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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followup  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
Apple does the exact same  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
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Wrong again...this is getting REALLY old....  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
4 years LOL  someitguy79 | 05/27/09
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Quality of OSX  John L. Ries | 05/28/09
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You got that right  oncall | 05/28/09
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Letter to Apple Shareholders, 1997  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
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DIY network..  oncall | 05/27/09
so you would see lots of MAC's in racks as servers ?  Aussie_Troll | 05/28/09
Virginia Tech  Jkirk3279 | 06/02/09
You can build a Mac clone  pnoliveira | 05/29/09
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RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  LLucas7086 | 05/27/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  Scrat | 05/28/09
History lesson - for you younguns  Aussie_Troll | 05/28/09
It is possible...  GuyAlanDye | 05/28/09
@GuyAlanDye: Finally, An objective post without the Vitriol  PlayFair | 05/28/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  Fluxstringer | 05/28/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  phatkat | 05/28/09
Quality is Job One  jpr75_z | 05/28/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  Chiatzu | 05/28/09
So we should have stayed with IBM, PS/2 and MCA?  cquirke | 05/29/09
Exactly - Great response  Aussie_Troll | 05/29/09
Can anyone else build a better MacOS computer than Apple?  vince7@... | 05/30/09
My PC is quieter than your Mac. My choice, not Apple  jgwinner | 06/01/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  vince7@... | 05/30/09
MS is a Hardware company . . .  brian ansorge | 05/31/09
Communism works! Religious Institutions deserve soul source  jgwinner | 06/01/09
RE: Poor economy saves Mac community from clone crap  larissa860 | 06/01/09
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