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July 14th, 2009

1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus

Posted by Jason D. O'Grady @ 9:25 am

Categories: App Store

Tags: Apple Inc., Public Relations, Digital Music, Cellular Phones, Digital Media, Financial Services, Marketing, Corporate Communications, Personal Technology, Consumer Electronics

Apple today announced that “customers have downloaded more than 1.5 billion applications in just one year.” An impressive feat, or is it?

What does this number actually mean? If you ask me, it’s a total joke.

Apple used this same PR crutch back in the day when they’d tout stupid things like “one million QuickTime downloads every three days” and “QuickTime 6 downloaded 250 million times.” It’s depressing to see that nothing’s changed in 10 years. Apple’s app download numbers are are analogous to counting “hits” on your Web site. Everyone knows that “hits” are irrelevant and that “unique visitors” and “page views” are what counts.

Apple is cooking the books (ala Enron and WorldCom) when they put out irrelevant and nonsense releases like this. For starters, I’m pretty sure that Apple counts every download in that 1.5 billion number. Updates and re-installs included. How many times have you updated your apps or restored your iPhone? What about handset upgrades? Time to download a few more apps. Again. If I’m wrong, Apple needs disclose its “download” accounting methodology.

When you take into account power users, developers and reviewers that sometimes install the same application dozens of times it completely skews the number through the roof - just like PR likes it.

I’m betting that 75 percent percent of the downloads are freebies which only cost Apple money. Further, I’d bet that two-thirds — or a full billion — are updates or re-downloads.

It’s high time for Apple to abandon these artificial and phony “downloads” stats and tell us about active users, original downloads (no updates, no re-installs) or even paid versus free. I’d also like to know about “actively used” apps, perhaps launched at least once per month, or how about Apps that stayed on a person’s iPhone for more than 30 or 60 days? How many apps have you installed and launched once? How many have you deleted immediately after its first launch? Be honest.

Apple’s “download” numbers are a joke and are insulting to intelligent people.

Jason D. O'GradyJason D. O'Grady is the editor of PowerPage.org, which has been publishing daily mobile technology news since December 1995. For disclosures on Jason's industry affiliations, click here or to view Jason's full profile click here.

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Any sample one writer could gather within a reasonable amount of time...
...would be vanishingly small, and therefore meaningless.

I think the whole point people are missing is that Apple needs to back up (or at least explain) its numbers, not Jason. ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: bhartman36 Posted on: 08/04/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
bunk  rwahrens1952 | 07/14/09
Do the math...  agent_bippy | 07/28/09
Ummm okay...  ChrisOPeterson | 07/14/09
A little ranty indeed...  Jason D. O'GradyZDNet Moderator | 07/14/09
Jason... you used a term early on that stuck in my mind  James Quinn | 07/15/09
Back in the Day I Remember when...  John McElhenney | 07/16/09
So what about users in my position???  mattmuir | 07/16/09
...yeah, you sound petulant  bengregg | 07/14/09
Agreed.  Jason D. O'GradyZDNet Moderator | 07/14/09
Stop being so pompous...  Ken Fegore | 07/14/09
Precisely  frgough | 07/14/09
Nothing more pompous  sackbut | 07/15/09
Hmmm.  Jkirk3279 | 07/15/09
further  rwahrens1952 | 07/15/09
If I have figured it out properly...  ths40 | 07/14/09
wow  dave@... | 07/14/09
Why not?  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
They are not running Windows servers dude.  i8thecat | 07/15/09
That's probabvly close to true.  mjolnar@... | 07/15/09
Hmmmm - so few?  mattmuir | 07/16/09
Why would Apple provide  davebarnes | 07/14/09
I agree  eldernorm | 07/15/09
Why not go ask Apple...  CowLauncher | 07/14/09
Calls to Apple weren't returned...  Jason D. O'GradyZDNet Moderator | 07/14/09
Basic journalism  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
Until then...  goff256 | 07/15/09
Then nothing would ever be written  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 07/15/09
Instead of waiting for info, maybe not writing an article...  goff256 | 07/15/09
So instead, you make things up in the Vacuum?  Bruizer | 07/15/09
Absurd  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
Bring something to the table  Jason D. O'GradyZDNet Moderator | 07/14/09
As with ANY chauvinistic leaning...  IT_Guy_z | 07/14/09
I think you're being narrow minded...  sw0rdfish | 07/14/09
Finally!  Rick_K | 07/14/09
Do some investigation...  Bruizer | 07/14/09
Difficult...  Sleeper Service | 07/14/09
Then get the data elsewhere.  Bruizer | 07/15/09
Any sample one writer could gather within a reasonable amount of time...  bhartman36 | 08/04/09
If you own an iXXXXX and want a  zenwalker | 07/15/09
With Other App Stores entering the market,  nucrash | 07/15/09
Your accustations...  Metronome49 | 07/15/09
WTF?!?  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
What nonsense on your part!  blacksheepxlch | 07/16/09
Bull  DeusExMachina | 07/16/09
Who is the journalist?  goff256 | 07/15/09
invented invectives are pathetic and presumptuous  cartoonasaurus | 07/15/09
They have said they have no evidence...  goff256 | 07/15/09
Touch a nerve? Oh yeah...  sgmunson | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  missmerli2 | 07/14/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  SmartyGuy | 07/14/09
You forgot one..  Been_Done_Before | 07/14/09
So?  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
The problem goes beyond Apple  sw0rdfish | 07/14/09
RE: Marketing in General  branchman67 | 07/15/09
Bogus progress  Theli | 07/14/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  jdoek9 | 07/14/09
200 downloads, a dozen used - so what?  Rick_from_BC | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  snobknowitall | 07/14/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  abcmurphy | 07/14/09
Why does it matter?  goff256 | 07/15/09
Says who?  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  Helio99000 | 07/14/09
Why  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
So,  frgough | 07/14/09
Well...  Badgered | 07/15/09
RE: Hot ! HOT ! HOT 1  microguy | 07/14/09
See.. I knew I was missing something  Badgered | 07/15/09
Apple says there were 37 million users  ksj99 | 07/14/09
Apple says there were 37 million users  snobknowitall | 07/14/09
re: 40 apps  Badgered | 07/15/09
Ah but is that 37 Macintosh users or iPhone users?  James Quinn | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  mzchw | 07/14/09
You're asking for the impossible!  smtpcnxp@... | 07/14/09
LOL  phatkat | 07/15/09
Numbers could be valid  dan.fr | 07/14/09
Post is a bit ranty, however,  zentle | 07/14/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  shellcodes_coder | 07/15/09
Got me thinking...  zenwalker | 07/15/09
All romance aside  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  goff256 | 07/15/09
WRONG  eldernorm | 07/15/09
Did you bother to READ my post?  goff256 | 07/15/09
Proof????  The 'G-Man.' | 07/15/09
Journalism?  non-sequitur | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  alexh1111 | 07/15/09
Um Fraud much?  alexh1111 | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  CarolJH | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  michael.schmalstieg@... | 07/15/09
And how many applications did you download to your previous phone?  gerhart | 07/15/09
Forget apps, what about the "developers" number?  kdarling | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  david@... | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  todhop | 07/15/09
RE: 75 percent two-thirds = new math  RedVeg | 07/15/09
Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 07/15/09
This isn't something that Apple alone does  goff256 | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion Apple's apps  trm1945 | 07/15/09
You must have stock in RIM or Nokia happy  bajamn | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  impost | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  cartoonasaurus | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  matrix1a@... | 07/15/09
Actually I think the numbers might be right  athynz | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  justinluey | 07/15/09
A pointless article  tiiman | 07/15/09
Struck a nerve? I'm a developer  wjanoch | 07/15/09
Your rant is BO-O-O-GUS !  Jkirk3279 | 07/15/09
ZDNET  DeusExMachina | 07/15/09
A download is still a download  rhon@... | 07/15/09
Yah. Ho-hum.  mayadanteamihan | 07/15/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  aldisp@... | 07/16/09
Isn't it ironic  DeusExMachina | 07/16/09
totally agreed, but enron and worldcom?  davidleecpowell@... | 07/16/09
If it's true, the numbers are very low...  veit@... | 07/16/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  centdev | 07/16/09
RE: 1 billion of Apple's app downloads may be bogus  CHARL33 | 08/03/09

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