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November 23rd, 2009

Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty

Posted by Jason D. O'Grady @ 11:01 am

Categories: AppleCare, Warranty

Tags: Apple Inc., Vertical Industries, Benefits, Healthcare, Human Resources, Jason D. O'Grady

Smoking May Void Your Apple Warranty

Apple just laid down the gauntlet with smokers announcing that it won’t honor the warranty on a product that’s been exposed to smoke.

Consumerist on Friday reported that Apple has denied several users repairs under its AppleCare Protection Plan (APP) because the machine had been exposed to smoke.

The first case involved a Mid-2007 MacBook under APP that was brought to the Jordan Creek Apple Store in West Des Moines, Iowa, for overheating. Apple voided the warranty because the computer was used in a house where there was smoking. It also refused to work on the machine due to the “health risks of second hand smoke.”

Another case involved an iMac under APP that Apple refused to work on because it was deemed “contaminated” by tobacco smoke and and considered a “bio-hazard.”

Apparently Nicotine is on OSHA’s list of hazardous and toxic substances (although I couldn’t find it) and Apple will not force an employee to work on anything deemed hazardous to their health because of the obvious legal exposure that could create.

Since Apple doesn’t disclose anything about smoking in the North American terms and condition of the APP, users who were denied coverage should – at minimum – receive a refund of cost of the warranty. Those that have been denied warranty coverage due to exposure to smoke could also sue Apple for not honoring its agreement.

Who’s right in this case?

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Jason D. O'GradyJason D. O'Grady is the editor of PowerPage.org, which has been publishing daily mobile technology news since December 1995. For disclosures on Jason's industry affiliations, click here or to view Jason's full profile click here.

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Plus, cyanide and other toxic substances...  BillDem | 11/23/09
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True but, if it disqualifies the warranty  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/09
Yes, they should be told that up front  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
So  Viva la crank dodo | 11/27/09
Apple's Warranty Is Worded Consistently With Most Warranty Exclusions  Cardhu | 12/23/09
Bullhockey!  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
Depends on the smoker.  macadam | 11/23/09
It depends  bobiroc | 11/23/09
Keyboards...  wright_is | 11/24/09
My guess is...  Henry Miller | 11/23/09
My guess is  macadam | 11/23/09
On the heat sink?  wright_is | 11/24/09
No one in my house smokes  big red one | 11/30/09
That is such BS  stagenine@... | 11/24/09
Brainwashed?  macadam | 11/24/09
...This will help increase the quarterly dividends  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/23/09
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Incense Is Not Tobacco  Cardhu | 12/23/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  doug.hanchard@...ZDNet Moderator | 11/23/09
Well, think about it...  olePigeon | 11/23/09
No, it doesn't  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
Just wondering  macadam | 11/23/09
cleaned once a year?  lostarchitect | 11/23/09
You can't clean the tar off the inside of the computer...  olePigeon | 11/23/09
Easy to clean?...yeah, right.  lawryll@... | 11/24/09
You had to work on a Packard Bell? I feel for you, man. sad [nt]  olePigeon | 11/25/09
Yeah...  James T. Kirk | 11/23/09
I think it's called "indifference".  bhartman36 | 11/23/09
I had the same thing happen . . . .  JLHenry | 11/23/09
I visited...  wright_is | 11/24/09
But void a warranty without telling users?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/23/09
I agree.  JLHenry | 11/23/09
It's impossible to write a warranty that way.  bhartman36 | 11/24/09
Then Apple isn't . . .  JLHenry | 11/24/09
Good post except  Viva la crank dodo | 11/27/09
Well...  Viva la crank dodo | 11/27/09
What about...  Cosmo54 | 11/23/09
Not far enough.  TripleII | 11/23/09
Nicely done (nt)  NonZealot | 11/23/09
Actually, pot would probably be covered by the warranty...  olePigeon | 11/23/09
I have too.  TripleII | 11/23/09
It's not the dust so much...  olePigeon | 11/23/09
Pot has a TON of tar in it!  matthew_maurice | 11/23/09
LOL!! happy (nt)  GuidingLight | 11/23/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  Captiosus | 11/23/09
It's a matter of degree  macadam | 11/23/09
Sky Diving  treyedean | 11/23/09
Apple's arrogance just keeps growing and growing.  IT_Guy_z | 11/23/09
HIV doesn't destroy the inside of a computer. [nt]  olePigeon | 11/23/09
Agree and Disagree  bobiroc | 11/23/09
I do agree with .....  condelirios | 11/23/09
If you have ever seen little boxes in file names---  BALTHOR | 11/23/09
For those who hate MS, Apple constantly proven to be worse  NonZealot | 11/23/09
I didn't realize Microsoft made computers. [nt]  olePigeon | 11/23/09
You don't realize much do you  bobiroc | 11/23/09
The X-Box is a computer, too. (nt)  babyboomer57 | 11/23/09
Good Point  bobiroc | 11/24/09
True, but the XBox 360 had a 54% failure rate without cigarettes. [nt]  olePigeon | 11/25/09
Another FANBOI!!!  UsernameRequired | 11/24/09
My Trap Shut?  bobiroc | 11/24/09
It obviously  Viva la crank dodo | 11/27/09
Nothing to do with Microsoft.  UsernameRequired | 11/24/09
Not a big deal for Apple  davebarnes | 11/23/09
Then....  djmik | 11/23/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  Loverock Davidson | 11/23/09
This isn't about smoking.  lostarchitect | 11/23/09
Which reinforces the point...  edwards.wb | 11/23/09
No they don't  macadam | 11/23/09
Absolutely correct.  macadam | 11/23/09
Yeah  bobiroc | 11/23/09
In reality  macadam | 11/23/09
Absolutely  bobiroc | 11/23/09
Tarry residue from COMMERCIAL APPLICATIONS  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
it is the same substance.  lostarchitect | 11/23/09
And the smoker is trying to infringe  0xBADF00D | 11/24/09
You are an idiot  Rwoita | 11/24/09
Thanks for your helpful comment.  lostarchitect | 11/24/09
But he was correct  FrankHa | 11/25/09
I read somewhere, the average toilet seat...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/23/09
Actually true.... but the microbes on a keyboard  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
Toilet seat, I mean  Lerianis10 | 11/23/09
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Apple cedes kitchen to Microsoft  Unc Al | 11/23/09
The oil in the kitchen is not a hazardous substance  GuidingLight | 11/23/09
Kitchen Computers  treyedean | 11/23/09
Understandable but should be up front  LiquidLearner | 11/23/09
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I fart through my laptop sometimes.  Lester Young | 11/23/09
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Finding evidence of an environmental condition is one thing.  Lester Young | 11/23/09
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A is for Apple  readydave | 11/23/09
...overheard in court "Your Honour, the guilt lies...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/23/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  JRude | 11/23/09
Unbelieveable arrogance!  Henry Miller | 11/23/09
The arrogance is people like you  macadam | 11/23/09
Yet another LIE from crapapple  Stan57 | 11/24/09
Remember the clean computer rooms?  Ken_z | 11/23/09
Of course we take it for granted  macadam | 11/23/09
Apple can hire cigarette smokers...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/23/09
LOL!!!!! That true! People are dumb!  consoleclassix | 11/23/09
@ consoleclassix  M.R. Kennedy | 11/23/09
People get angry when you blow noxious fumes  0xBADF00D | 11/24/09
Angry people  M.R. Kennedy | 11/24/09
You're self contradictory.  0xBADF00D | 11/24/09
No . . .  JLHenry | 11/24/09
I agree with you.  JLHenry | 11/24/09
An Aside. . . .  medezark@... | 11/27/09
I've noticed this as well  ricofinelli | 12/12/09
Easy there, Borat.  ejhonda | 11/24/09
Is this in english?  FrankHa | 11/25/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  benhal@... | 11/23/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  mikeismith | 11/24/09
And you know this, how exactly??  macadam | 11/24/09
Agreed...  lawryll@... | 11/24/09
Shouldn't you be . . .  JLHenry | 11/24/09
To hell with Apple  stagenine@... | 11/24/09
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Yet another reason to not buy an apple computer  Stan57 | 11/24/09
Check the EPA.  HollywoodDog | 11/24/09
Smoke yes  bobiroc | 11/24/09
I once bought a book through Ebay from a smoker  HollywoodDog | 11/24/09
Apple needs scientific proof before denying service.  phatkat | 11/24/09
please read and understand before posting.  lostarchitect | 11/24/09
APPLE "CAN" FORCE THERE EMPLOYEESS TO CLEAN THE COMPUTERS  Stan57 | 11/26/09
re: Check the EPA  M.R. Kennedy | 11/24/09
So's the Computer itself . . .  JLHenry | 11/24/09
SHS gunks up electronics but not lungs??  genebb | 11/24/09
gunks up electronics but not lungs  medezark@... | 11/27/09
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Thats plain stupid.  DemonX | 11/24/09
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RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  M.R. Kennedy | 11/24/09
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When will Detroit follow suit?  jjstaud | 11/25/09
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RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  ICUR12 | 11/30/09
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RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  sk.dunnage@... | 12/01/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  781lc | 12/02/09
Apple just opened the door to be sued daily  Fletchguy | 12/11/09
RE: Apple to smokers: butt out or void your warranty  ricofinelli | 12/12/09
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