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October 25th, 2007

Leopard's beefier Spotlight may reconfigure Tiger indexes

Posted by David Morgenstern @ 11:02 am

Categories: General, Leopard, Mac OS, Software

Tags: Apple Macintosh, Apple Inc., Index, Web Site, Leopard, Tiger, Web Site Development, Microsoft Windows, Web Technology, Desktops

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Leopard’s beefier Spotlight may reconfigure Tiger indexesApple’s search technology Spotlight is getting a serious makeover in Mac OS X 10.5 Leopard: speedier performance, a greater reach for its searches and an overall improvement in its usability. However, the new version appears to use a different format for its indexing and some folks qualifying Leopard report trouble when dual-booting into Tiger.

Yesterday I spoke with a longtime reader who’s a Mac IT director. He is qualifying Leopard client and testing Leopard from an external FireWire drive connected to an Intel Mac. He boots between the external Leopard system and his internal Tiger setup.

He said that Leopard appears to be overwriting either a preference or the index on the Tiger volume. When he reboots back into Tiger, Spotlight starts churning the machine to recreate the index. It also wipes out the preferences, he said.

“When I rebooted back into Tiger from the internal drive (to get my actual work done), all my Spotlight prefs were reset and mdimport began working. I went back to Leopard and added my internal HD to the Privacy list, then went back to Tiger, where Spotlight again began rebuilding the database,” he said.

“I haven’t been willing to reboot into the new system again quite yet, as I don’t have the time or inclination to have it chugging away on indexing. Spotlight rebuilding slows my machine down too much,” he concluded. He said the reindexing took about 9 hours.

A developer, who also declined attribution, when contacted about the rebuilding issue said: “That might explain some of the problems I’m having.”

It appears that the index internals were changed for Leopard. This makes sense since the technology is checking and reporting on more resources on the drive. From the reports, Leopard can read Tiger indexes but not the other way around.

According to reviews, Leopard Spotlight results are retrieved more quickly than in Tiger. Often such speed boosts from a data store are enabled by an optimization in the index format and structure. This kind of change is always incompatible.

However, another longtime Mac developer said this action sounded like a bug, rather than a feature.

Switchers from the Windows side often remark on the speed of Spotlight on Tiger, especially when compared with Windows XP. Still, the performance of Spotlight’s search-ahead feature was always annoying — after typing in a few letters, the search would stall and then catch up with you in a bit for the whole word or phrase. I always typed out the query and pasted it into the search box.

Now, Spotlight in Leopard gains a lot of power with the addition of Boolean AND, OR, and NOT conditions, and exact phrase searching.

However, the Spotlight feature I look forward to most in Leopard is the searching of visited websites. In the past, I’ve avoided a website management utility or Google Desktop, which also offers this feature.

However, it sounds as if Leopard Spotlight does more than search for the name of the site. Apple says Spotlight can now search for content on the sites and then open a result in the browser. That’s a good increase in functionality.

David MorgensternDavid Morgenstern has covered the Mac market and other technology segments for 20 years. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.


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Given the "features" of Vista...no problem!
Given the issues of XP and Vista...
Bad security
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Hehe, Apple developers fear for their lives!!  NonZealot | 10/25/07
Then by your definition you are an ...  mrOSX | 10/25/07
It doesn't really matter...  msalzberg | 10/25/07
Wow, what a classic display of Apple attitude!!  NonZealot | 10/25/07
Ink blot  SquishyParts | 10/25/07
No. You define yourself as..  msalzberg | 10/25/07
troll alert  ewelch | 10/26/07
Don't call him names...  Tigertank | 10/26/07
Little boxes...  KristolSeth | 10/25/07
You forgot your meds  ewelch | 10/26/07
RE: Leopard's beefier Spotlight may reconfigure Tiger indexes  kvmspecialist@... | 10/25/07
O.k.........And?  nwoodson@... | 10/25/07
Well, you're upgrading from  Len Rooney | 10/25/07
What is the point...  KristolSeth | 10/25/07
Triple Boot System  jphines79 | 10/25/07
No I see the problem  DannyO_0x98 | 10/25/07
RE: Leopard's beefier Spotlight may reconfigure Tiger indexes  davidmorgensternZDNet Moderator | 10/25/07
What?  SquishyParts | 10/25/07
Seems to be working as it should.  j.m.galvin | 10/25/07
Leopard *and* Tiger on the same Mac? Lame.  andrewp_z | 10/25/07
Well stated!  Paul4 | 10/26/07
Bug is user related  Stuka | 10/25/07
There is a very easy solution to this  NonZealot | 10/25/07
Half right  SquishyParts | 10/25/07
This is not a problem, it's an inconvenience  Leans_To_Center | 10/25/07
Wait a second  People | 10/25/07
Sorry, you're right  Leans_To_Center | 10/25/07
The cost of debugging is just $129 per/hand and as little as in 2-3 years..  Just_true | 10/25/07
Yeah, too bad it's not FREE anymore...  comp_indiana | 10/25/07
Atr least all the UPDATES for Leopard should be free...  comp_indiana | 10/25/07
Well, if you opens lots of apps, or use high-end Audio/Video aps - OS X...  HowAbout | 10/26/07
Congratulations  rhavyn | 10/26/07
Can you see anything beynd your illusions, e.g reality? (NT)  HowAbout | 10/26/07
I bought iMac because I believed in false advertisement.Who cares? The FCC?  HowAbout | 10/26/07
False posting?  MarcB_z | 10/26/07
Did you ever tryed Mac? Or did you do the test? (NT)  HowAbout | 10/26/07
"The test" is meaningless  rhavyn | 10/26/07
Indeed ? 100% belief in Jobs replaces any testing. It?s a proven fact. (NT)  HowAbout | 10/26/07
Given the "features" of Vista...no problem!  mikifinaz1@... | 10/26/07

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