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October 6th, 2008

The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed

Posted by Jason Hiner @ 4:21 am

Categories: Microsoft

Tags: Information Technology, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., IT Department, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Windows XP, Operating Systems, Software, Jason Hiner

On Friday, Microsoft gave computer makers a six-month extension for offering Windows XP on newly-shipped PCs. While this doesn’t impact enterprise IT — because volume licensing agreements will allow IT to keep installing Windows XP for many years to come — the move is another symbolic nail in Vista’s coffin.

The public reputation of Windows Vista is in shambles, as Microsoft itself tacitly acknowledged in its Mojave ad campaign.

IT departments are largely ignoring Vista. In June (18 months after Vista’s launch), Forrester Research reported that just 8.8% of enterprise PCs worldwide were running Vista. Meanwhile, Microsoft appears to have put Windows 7 on an accelerated schedule that could see it released in 2010. That will provide IT departments with all the justification they need to simply skip Vista and wait to eventually standardize on Windows 7 as the next OS for business.

So how did Vista get left holding the bag? Let’s look at the five most important reasons why Vista failed.

5. Apple successfully demonized Vista

Apple’s clever I’m a Mac ads have successfully driven home the perception that Windows Vista is buggy, boring, and difficult to use. After taking two years of merciless pummeling from Apple, Microsoft recently responded with it’s I’m a PC campaign in order to defend the honor of Windows. This will likely restore some mojo to the PC and Windows brands overall, but it’s too late to save Vista’s perception as a dud.

4. Windows XP is too entrenched

In 2001, when Windows XP was released, there were about 600 million computers in use worldwide. Over 80% of them were running Windows but it was split between two code bases: Windows 95/98 (65%) and Windows NT/2000 (26%), according to IDC. One of the big goals of Windows XP was to unite the Windows 9x and Windows NT code bases, and it eventually accomplished that.

In 2008, there are now over 1.1 billion PCs in use worldwide and over 70% of them are running Windows XP. That means almost 800 million computers are running XP, which makes it the most widely installed operating system of all time. That’s a lot of inertia to overcome, especially for IT departments that have consolidated their deployments and applications around Windows XP.

And, believe it or not, Windows XP could actually increase its market share over the next couple years. How? Low-cost netbooks and nettops are going to be flooding the market. While these inexpensive machines are powerful enough to provide a solid Internet experience for most users, they don’t have enough resources to run Windows Vista, so they all run either Windows XP or Linux. Intel expects this market to explode in the years ahead. (For more on netbooks and nettops, see this fact sheet and this presentation — both are PDFs from Intel.)

3. Vista is too slow

For years Microsoft has been criticized by developers and IT professionals for “software bloat” — adding so many changes and features to its programs that the code gets huge and unwieldy. However, this never seemed to have enough of an effect to impact software sales. With Windows Vista, software bloat appears to have finally caught up with Microsoft.

Vista has over 50 million lines of code. XP had 35 million when it was released, and since then it has grown to about 40 million.  This software bloat has had the effect of slowing down Windows Vista, especially when it’s running on anything but the latest and fastest hardware. Even then, the latest version of Windows XP soundly outperforms the latest version of Microsoft Vista. No one wants to use a new computer that is slower than their old one.

2. There wasn’t supposed to be a Vista

It’s easy to forget that when Microsoft launched Windows XP it was actually trying to change its OS business model to move away from shrink-wrapped software and convert customers to software subscribers. That’s why it abandoned the naming convention of Windows 95, Windows 98, and Windows 2000, and instead chose Windows XP.

The XP stood for “experience” and was part of Microsoft’s .NET Web services strategy at the time. The master plan was to get users and businesses to pay a yearly subscription fee for the Windows experience — XP would essentially be the on-going product name but would include all software upgrades and updates, as long as you paid for your subscription. Of course, it would disable Windows on your PC if you didn’t pay. That’s why product activation was coupled with Windows XP.

Microsoft released Windows XP and Office XP simultaneously in 2001 and both included product activation and the plan to eventually migrate to subscription products. However, by the end of 2001 Microsoft had already abandoned the subscription concept with Office, and quickly returned to the shrink-wrapped business model and the old product development model with both products.

The idea of doing incremental releases and upgrades of its software — rather than a major shrink-wrapped release every 3-5 years — was a good concept. Microsoft just couldn’t figure out how to make the business model work, but instead of figuring out how to get it right, it took the easy route and went back to an old model that was simply not very well suited to the economic and technical realities of today’s IT world.

1. It broke too much stuff

One of the big reasons that Windows XP caught on was because it had the hardware, software, and driver compatibility of the Windows 9x line plus the stability and industrial strength of the Windows NT line. The compatibility issue was huge. Having a single, highly-compatible Windows platform simplified the computing experience for users, IT departments, and software and hardware vendors.

Microsoft either forgot or disregarded that fact when it released Windows Vista, because, despite a long beta period, a lot of existing software and hardware were not compatible with Vista when it was released in January 2007. Since many important programs and peripherals were unusable in Vista, that made it impossible for a lot of IT departments to adopt it. Many of the incompatibilities were the result of tighter security.

After Windows was targeted by a nasty string of viruses, worms, and malware in the early 2000s, Microsoft embarked on the Trustworthy Computing initiative to make its products more secure. One of the results was Windows XP Service Pack 2 (SP2), which won over IT and paved the way for XP to become the world’s mostly widely deployed OS.

The other big piece of Trustworthy Computing was the even-further-locked-down version of Windows that Microsoft released in Vista. This was definitely the most secure OS that Microsoft had ever released but the price was user-hostile features such as UAC, a far more complicated set of security prompts that accompanied many basic tasks, and a host of software incompatibility issues. In other words, Vista broke a lot of the things that users were used to doing in XP.

Bottom line

There are some who argue that Vista is actually more widely adopted than XP was at this stage after its release, and that it’s highly likely that Vista will eventually replace XP in the enterprise. I don’t agree. With XP, there were clear motivations to migrate: bring Windows 9x machines to a more stable and secure OS and bring Windows NT/2000 machines to an OS with much better hardware and software compatibility. And, you also had the advantage of consolidating all of those machines on a single OS in order to simplify support.

With Vista, there are simply no major incentives for IT to use it over XP. Security isn’t even that big of an issue because XP SP2 (and above) are solid and most IT departments have it locked down quite well. As I wrote in the article Prediction: Microsoft will leapfrog Vista, release Windows 7 early, and change its OS business, Microsoft needs to abandon the strategy of releasing a new OS every 3-5 years and simply stick with a single version of Windows and release updates, patches, and new features on a regular basis. Most IT departments are essentially already on a subscription model with Microsoft so the business strategy is already in place for them.

As far as the subscription model goes for small businesses and consumers, instead of disabling Windows on a user’s PC if they don’t renew their subscription, just don’t allow that machine to get any more updates if they don’t renew. Microsoft could also work with OEMs to sell something like a three-year subscription to Windows with every a new PC. Then users would have the choice of renewing on their own after that.

Will your company eventually migrate to Vista? Take our poll.

This article was originally published in the Tech Sanity Check blog (subscribe via RSS or e-mail alert).

Jason HinerJason Hiner is the Editor in Chief of TechRepublic, ZDNet's sister site. Read his blog Tech Sanity Check at hiner.techrepublic.com. You can also find him on Twitter, LinkedIn, and JasonHiner.com.

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Really?  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
RE:Really?  babylon2233 | 10/06/08
No, just honesty and integrity.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Actually...  914four | 10/06/08
The author also used numerous hyperlinks..  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
You what, John?  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Do you include all the spyware etc in your judgement?  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Monkeys  tikigawd | 10/06/08
know before you blow...  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
Er.. It's NOT illegal nor anticompetetive... dude...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
@Wolfie: frothy is  tikigawd | 10/06/08
@fr0thy: But still a nut-job eh?  tikigawd | 10/06/08
@Tikigawd: True...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
@Wolfie: True^2  tikigawd | 10/06/08
Silly example  deowll | 10/06/08
Of course it's slower  jctcom | 10/06/08
YES I can!!!  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
@rsblack - that's just unreal man!...(NT)  JCitizen | 10/06/08
rbslack - did you read jctcom's post?  Cardhu | 10/06/08
Actually yes...  athynz | 10/06/08
I have both in my PC  tikigawd | 10/06/08
Evolved??  brianel1 | 10/10/08
Human Evolution Is Way Off Topic  Cardhu | 10/11/08
DU computer !!?  damacman | 10/13/08
Absolutely it's slower on a Sony Vaio all patched up...  awasson@... | 10/17/08
Yes, it is.  914four | 10/07/08
Therein lies the crux of the situation  jctcom | 10/15/08
and not entirely accurate  Kiltedbear | 10/06/08
Perhaps...  914four | 10/06/08
You're on the right track...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
Vista SP1 vs XPpro SP3  danielarbib | 10/15/08
Your post isn't entirely accurate.  daengbo | 10/06/08
You should ALWAYS expect old drivers to break when a new OS comes out  Jeremy W | 10/09/08
Exactly...  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
How numbers lie  gregmor | 10/17/08
This is true  jctcom | 10/15/08
Actually..Actually...  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
And how many...  914four | 10/07/08
Utopia?  DiZastur | 10/09/08
In my experience  willpd13 | 10/20/08
Honesty and integrity was sadly lacking from Microsoft.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Time to leave this topic.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Have a nice day! grin  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
Ta! Ta!  jimr@... | 10/06/08
Leave?? Why??  Aaron A Baker | 10/06/08
And they claim there's no concerted effort to spread FUD about...  ye | 10/06/08
And look at your rabid defense of all things M$  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
It's always nice to have ones suspicions confirmed.  Sleeper Service | 10/10/08
Gee, I thought you left...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/11/08
Then I came back to do a troll count.  Sleeper Service | 10/12/08
YES! - 1st 10 in - LOL Thank you  USTechHead | 10/06/08
sadly sadly  toms@... | 10/10/08
You can bet it was "cheefully lacking"  Ole Man | 10/15/08
if MS had a support fee - no Vista would come out  coffee junky | 10/09/08
Denial  frgough | 10/06/08
What happened to all that monopoly talk?  ye | 10/06/08
Title  ellmondo | 10/06/08
Again I repeat: What happened to all that monopoly talk?  ye | 10/06/08
No, we weren't wrong.  Henrik Moller | 10/06/08
If you weren't then frgough is.  ye | 10/06/08
vista and xp  sam7510 | 10/06/08
@ye  Axsimulate | 10/10/08
Microsoft is a victim of their own device ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Nice one wink  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
The Lame Game.  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
@rbslack  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 10/06/08
YE IS SAYING THAT MS ISN'T AND WASN'T A MONOPOLY  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Ye is just as ridiculous as you are  bmerc | 10/06/08
@bmerc : And as boring as you at the same time!  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Deleted.  ye | 10/06/08
Yeah but bmerc, at least fr0thy2 sounds like he's having fun...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
re:b8375629@... frothy having fun...?!?!  USTechHead | 10/07/08
fr0thy is a clown  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
Monopoly - Clue , Whatever  Girth. | 10/06/08
oops more BS  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
Fall?  zkiwi | 10/06/08
There was another way...  Taz_z | 10/06/08
companIES (nt)  tikigawd | 10/06/08
I guessed you missed the memo  zkiwi | 10/06/08
These people had a choice to choose something else.  ye | 10/06/08
No Ye, those succumbed to FUD think their WOW starts THEN  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Stupid question for ye  NickNielsen | 10/06/08
You're right. That was a stupid question.  ye | 10/06/08
Why don't they know about their choices, ye?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
I guess you've not noticed that...  zkiwi | 10/06/08
Irrelevent.  ye | 10/06/08
Just so as you know...  zkiwi | 10/06/08
Offering the latest OS, companies are so evil  tikigawd | 10/07/08
They are. And you know it.  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/08/08
@b8375629: Nice: praise one and bash the other for the same practices  tikigawd | 10/08/08
Yeah it is nice, isn't it...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/08/08
The "Build Your Own" Market Is Insignificant  Cardhu | 10/09/08
@b8375629: Getting real  tikigawd | 10/09/08
Corporate shills are never real...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/10/08
@b8375629  tikigawd | 10/10/08
Well tikidude...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/10/08
Excpet that's not strictly true.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Well, you just blew right by the point without stopping  zkiwi | 10/06/08
Please  xuniL_z | 10/08/08
No option in a monopoly  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/09/08
Gotta love the speculation by....  xuniL_z | 10/09/08
Umm...  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
No XP was offered after vista's official release unless..  jctcom | 10/15/08
It ain't over yet...  BitTwiddler | 10/06/08
How is this different from Windows 2000?  notsofast | 10/06/08
Re: How is this different from Windows 2000?  mystic100 | 10/06/08
Re: How is this different from Windows 2000?  notsofast | 10/06/08
Simple  TedKraan | 10/07/08
Re: How is this different from Windows 2000?  mystic100 | 10/07/08
Re: "XP vs Vista a very old OS trying to be replaced by a newer one"  Cardhu | 10/08/08
That'd make sense, except  notsofast | 10/09/08
and for good reason...  jctcom | 10/15/08
You've made a good point.  daengbo | 10/06/08
He does not hate Microsoft, it is about the money  GuidingLight | 10/06/08
Like Vista. Nothing to do with progress, just money. Like America actually.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Umm you better go back to world economics  USTechHead | 10/06/08
So had you lot, unless the future is the obese ruled by a handful  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Thank you - you just reinforced everyone's view-Typical -  USTechHead | 10/06/08
You're still full of yesteryear's nonsense I see ...  fr0thy2 | 10/07/08
bmerc might be on to something, fr0thy  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
re:b8375629@... not sure you meant  USTechHead | 10/07/08
re: my little froth - LOL thank you that was great keep up the paranoia -nt  USTechHead | 10/07/08
Nope, not true  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
but Jason you dont get it...  CrashPad | 10/06/08
Jason, You're Debating With Informed Reason Against Emotion  Cardhu | 10/07/08
I do..  TedKraan | 10/07/08
Chuckling At Your Good Points  Cardhu | 10/07/08
QFT  TedKraan | 10/08/08
"Quoted For Truth"  Cardhu | 10/08/08
I Thought Of Another Reason  Cardhu | 10/08/08
It does actually...  TedKraan | 10/15/08
RE: Nope, not true...  GreyGeek | 10/07/08
Great Points, Thanks For Your Experienced Perspective  Cardhu | 10/08/08
Cant agree with you there  willpd13 | 11/07/08
macs arnt that great  carbonunit | 01/15/09
So ZDNET is starting to run Repeats?  xuniL_z | 10/08/08
You can whine about it all you want to...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/09/08
Whoopsy-daisy! grin  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/15/08
Yeah but why were so many Vista OS's  jctcom | 10/15/08
Other than the date, nothing's different.  Letophoro | 10/06/08
Here's another straw for you to clutch at.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
No worse than what you've been doing... (nt)  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
Here's one for you : WINDOWS VISTA!!!!  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
I was pointing out your lack of comprehension.  Letophoro | 10/06/08
And how does that change things?  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
RIP Vista, You Will Not Be Missed  chessmen | 10/06/08
It IS a marketing failure and ...  mwagner@... | 10/06/08
Well good, except...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
You are right there...  TedKraan | 10/07/08
"Hope Springs Eternal In The Human Breast"  Cardhu | 10/08/08
Product failure  symbolset | 10/07/08
That Is What I Hear At Work  Cardhu | 10/08/08
CONGRATULATIONS!!!  snakecharmernyc@... | 10/14/08
RE: Really?  GreyGeek | 10/07/08
Too bad they don't offer that on the AR series  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Congratulations on reaching the article's second sentence, BTW.  Zogg | 10/06/08
Actually I was on my lunch break...  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Actually, all I was commenting on was...  Zogg | 10/06/08
How big an impact...  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
It's not a big deal - other than the fact that MS did it at all.  Zogg | 10/06/08
Oh come on...  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
Except that you're the one making the fuss happy  Zogg | 10/06/08
Well let's see. I don't remember getting any ...  jctcom | 10/16/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  notsofast | 10/06/08
Just because it's been fixed doesn't mean people will buy it.  914four | 10/06/08
Your response  xgi | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  s_souche | 10/06/08
There'll be IT asses kicked for buying MS products before long  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
What about the bit where Microsoft lied about "Vista Ready"?  whisperycat | 10/06/08
Yup...  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
No one in their right mind would support such sick greed and lies.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Are they now?  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
If, for 1 second, you can see beyond Vista's MEGAWOW!!!!!  fr0thy2 | 10/07/08
Whoa....  jctcom | 10/16/08
Microsoft "Monopoly" killing the global economy?  unclefixer@... | 10/07/08
Yes they are good at marketing. But also...  jctcom | 10/16/08
Thats the Point!!!!  jboyd@... | 10/06/08
But ... no  daengbo | 10/06/08
European Pricing  pico_D | 10/06/08
I might fly  s_souche | 10/06/08
Simple  NoThomas | 10/06/08
I'll give you that  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
They already shot their collective wads  Ole Man | 10/06/08
water under the bridge RE: The top five reasons  amj2006 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  anonim20 | 10/06/08
There are two kinds of computer users  Cisco-SA | 10/06/08
my wife had Mac OS  s_souche | 10/06/08
Macs do not just work... this is a myth  notlehs | 10/06/08
You're joking right?  MacGeek2121 | 10/06/08
Should be easy enough...  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
we could start with the factual errors  -hh | 10/06/08
Did you want to address factual errors?  ye | 10/06/08
Its Total Cost of Ownership (TCO)  -hh | 10/06/08
@-hh: Not only can one not find free TCO reports but...  ye | 10/06/08
I beg to differ...  notlehs | 10/07/08
Trying not to say "RTFM"...  -hh | 10/07/08
@hh: Adding to a library  tikigawd | 10/09/08
Oversimplification..  deanders | 10/07/08
What a stupid post  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
There are more than 2 computer users  Gruffydd | 10/06/08
Not even close....  CrashPad | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  zmud | 10/06/08
It isn't.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
The difference....  cheapasskevin | 10/06/08
What better alternative...  CrashPad | 10/06/08
You know what...?  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  krishnakumar.nair@... | 10/06/08
Why is it?  Bebedo | 10/06/08
come on  s_souche | 10/06/08
Overlooked  Bebedo | 10/06/08
not precisely  s_souche | 10/06/08
If you're going to strongly disagree with the article  bmerc | 10/06/08
Well said.  914four | 10/06/08
sorry lad  s_souche | 10/06/08
Numbers don't always compute  mystic100 | 10/06/08
Shouldn't an opinion based on bad facts be challenged?  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Your Opinion vs His Opinion  Bebedo | 10/06/08
examples  s_souche | 10/06/08
No bad facts there  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
Lots of bad facts  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
*facepalm*  Sleeper Service | 10/10/08
Seethere is the argument  CrashPad | 10/06/08
#1 reason Vista failed  Michael Kelly | 10/06/08
Vista made it difficult for partners...  bjbrock | 10/06/08
Yes, ofcourse it is..  TedKraan | 10/06/08
Microsoft is a single entity ....  qtrback | 10/06/08
But this one time..  TedKraan | 10/07/08
I'm not blaming third parties  Michael Kelly | 10/06/08
I'm not blaming third parties ....  qtrback | 10/06/08
Ahh but they did...  CrashPad | 10/06/08
Dependencies....  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
Let's for an example sake assume that's all true  TedKraan | 10/07/08
Horsehocky!  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
Assuming you are right here again...  TedKraan | 10/07/08
It's a good point, but ...  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
Linux and platform control  John L. Ries | 10/06/08
There is a flaw in that argument though...  914four | 10/06/08
I'll buy that  John L. Ries | 10/06/08
Count Verizon in that group.  Hates Idiots | 10/10/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jetsethi | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  miles1 | 10/06/08
Agreement  JJ Brannon | 10/06/08
Then OS X is a disaster of proportions never witnessed before by man!  NonZealot | 10/06/08
Not Apple's market.  b.bob | 10/06/08
Hit the nail on the head. [nt]  olePigeon | 10/06/08
Hit what nail?  rtk | 10/06/08
Huh? Apple mentions Vista by name in SEVERAL of those ads.  threedaysdwn | 10/06/08
They say PC  willpd13 | 10/21/08
The biggest problems...  pico_D | 10/06/08
To the contrary, Top 5 Reasons Vista Succeeds:  Mike Cox | 10/06/08
Re: Top 5 Reasons Vista Succeeds  mystic100 | 10/06/08
9.0  John L. Ries | 10/06/08
Brilliant! (eom)  caspianhiro | 10/08/08
Flame Bait Article  ShadeTree | 10/06/08
Windows ME  Bebedo | 10/06/08
Sure they do.  ye | 10/06/08
You're right  Bebedo | 10/06/08
Windows' eroding install base -- by the numbers  Bebedo | 10/06/08
Of course I am. But this isn't encouraging for Linux:  ye | 10/06/08
Here's your reason for Vista and Linux....  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Or, here's a thought, people LIKE Windows.  ye | 10/06/08
@ye - Sorry, please try again ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
@MisterMiester: Or, here's a thought, people LIKE Windows.  ye | 10/06/08
@Ye's "thought", nah, they're just used to it, like speaking English.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
I agree  b.bob | 10/06/08
Windows is so much hassle that people are scared to change  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
RE:... isn't encouraging for Linux  GreyGeek | 10/07/08
I think you are right  kevinfarringer@... | 10/07/08
Don't forget about all of those downgraded machines  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 10/06/08
When someone can quantify them we won't.  ye | 10/06/08
A whole big bunch is no small number  Ole Man | 10/06/08
Not flame bait, just an opinion.  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
I am reminded of a quote.  ShadeTree | 10/06/08
Yup, amazing what illegal anti-competitve pre-install can achieve eh?  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Not illegal.  ShadeTree | 10/06/08
It is illegal  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Funny.  rtk | 10/06/08
How 'bout them Ubuntu Dells?  Sleeper Service | 10/12/08
They generally aren't sold in stores...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/13/08
It is not illegal or anti-competitive.  ShadeTree | 10/06/08
Same tired B.S...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/06/08
Ok, how about...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
This case does not state pre-installing ....  ShadeTree | 10/07/08
Same difference  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
All I reInforced was that ....  ShadeTree | 10/07/08
Do I have to repeat it for you?  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
True that  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
Truer words were never spoken!  Ole Man | 10/06/08
Net Applications is not market share ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
I don't even know of anyone that uses Vista any more.  cheapasskevin | 10/06/08
Selection Fallacy  JJ Brannon | 10/06/08
Define "around."  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
Just the opposite NT  Ole Man | 10/06/08
well your name says it all  CrashPad | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gertruded | 10/06/08
That's just too funny  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
MS fanboy speak with forked tongue  whisperycat | 10/06/08
And you obviously have no idea about Vista's DRM  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Ya thanks  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
Linux has Blu-Ray support already.  Zogg | 10/06/08
I'm sure the MPAA would like to know that....  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
@Joe_Raby - In the United States ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Who cares about the MPAA....  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
It's called a "consumer backlash".  Zogg | 10/06/08
Except that there's extradition laws....  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
Extradited for watching an unencrypted Blu-Ray movie????  Zogg | 10/06/08
Yeah, Mr. Joe_Raby  Ole Man | 10/06/08
Ignorance and hostility towards the law....  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
One test case should do the trick.  Zogg | 10/06/08
Oooo...Oooo... Joe_Raby, I'm really scared... grin  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/06/08
Who is Paul Smith?  Ole Man | 10/06/08
Paul Smith is...  daSmirnov | 10/06/08
Ohhh, Ouch!  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Well who would have known it???  Ole Man | 10/07/08
You're wrong  Joe_Raby | 10/06/08
Hmmm...  Selvarin | 10/06/08
Hmmm  gertruded | 10/06/08
@Joe_Raby  Axsimulate | 10/13/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Cazurean | 10/06/08
What if...  Bebedo | 10/06/08
100% compatibility  b.bob | 10/06/08
Right!  JJ Brannon | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Brad! | 10/06/08
"Windows XP is too entrenched" hurts everyone.  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Exactly  TedKraan | 10/06/08
Re: "Windows XP is too entrenched" hurts everyone.  rikasa | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Loverock Davidson | 10/06/08
Daily  b.bob | 10/06/08
RE: Everything indicates its been a complete success!  User07734 | 10/06/08
Read it? He eats it for breakfast.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
The point of the article was...  zkiwi | 10/06/08
A question that will never be answered...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/07/08
Mojave is a farce, Lovey.  nix_hed | 10/07/08
Really? Honestly? In Oct 2008 You have the nerve to write this article?  mikefarinha | 10/06/08
Y2K  Rick_R | 10/06/08
I never thought of that.  b.bob | 10/06/08
Statistics never show everything  Alan Burns | 10/06/08
Doubts about incremental updates  johngalt_0705 | 10/06/08
Connection to the hardware  Anton Philidor | 10/06/08
Some inaccuracies in your article  Mr. Dee | 10/06/08
Depends on your "univers(e)ity  mystic100 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Bebedo | 10/06/08
No Value Proposition  Chad_z | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ParrotHeadFL | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jasonwheeler | 10/06/08
How do you leave out DRM and deactivation?  scott1329 | 10/06/08
Messed-up Vista Beta Program  donelder@... | 10/06/08
I agree  boed | 10/06/08
Why Windows Vista  user support | 10/06/08
Vista's UI is easy to fix  gypkap@... | 10/06/08
And looks alot like Win 2k...nt  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
Reasons 1 + 3 are right - the rest are crap  ejhonda | 10/06/08
What Microsoft should do...  bmwracer0 | 10/06/08
Excellent idea! Designing Windows 7 like this would...  User07734 | 10/06/08
Windows Vista and 7--The Future  hansonjb | 10/06/08
Pls backup the statement  jimatshaw@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  varick | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  j-mccurdy@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  pregador27@... | 10/06/08
Vista did not fail...  dimitri.aguero@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  lynne1462@... | 10/06/08
If one wishes to know more about Win 7...  Selvarin | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  numbersguy@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  patsiec@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Denithor | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  patsiec@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  theflo | 10/06/08
This is the reason Vista Fails  gene_fitz@... | 10/06/08
You will never make it as a politician  Ole Man | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Greg1126 | 10/06/08
It's just flaky  DB_z | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  An Old Man | 10/06/08
Does it matter?  mister-moon | 10/06/08
Really?  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
It's called progress.  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
Ahh the old pot and kettle view - very good...nt  USTechHead | 10/06/08
I looked in the dictionary...  Sleeper Service | 10/12/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  archer75 | 10/06/08
RE: speaking of the UAC ...  chips@... | 10/06/08
RE: speaking of the UAC  j-mccurdy@... | 10/06/08
RE: speaking of the UAC  chips@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  1ceman | 10/06/08
The MMOS  zdnet@... | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gary@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  1ceman | 10/06/08
Wait... Vista failed?  Steve Goldman | 10/06/08
Mark Twain said it best...  DB_z | 10/06/08
Mark Twain never used Vista  Steve Goldman | 10/06/08
Broccoli never used Vista. Whatever!  Gruffydd | 10/06/08
But the damage has been done already  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
The use of an OS in Embedded systems!  madhead@... | 10/06/08
It was easy to demonize - junkware always is  johnnydoe1894 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Sirgwain | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Peter Knight | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  kevinfarringer@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  sam7510 | 10/06/08
The truth hurts....  3dtodd | 10/06/08
not true  archer75 | 10/06/08
Please show where XP outperforms Vista.  Sleeper Service | 10/06/08
No Need To Prove The Obvious  chessmen | 10/06/08
No it's not obvious and everyone doesn't know it.  ye | 10/06/08
Need drives everything.  richard233 | 10/06/08
Windows 7 Very Much Like Vista  anovarho | 10/06/08
Windows 7 = Vista++  symbolset | 10/07/08
RE: It's the pricing  dale.cox@... | 10/06/08
you can already buy Vista for $89!  pikeman666 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons ... Retraining  Thomas of Austin | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Midnight04 | 10/06/08
Worth the upgrade  Ashtonian | 10/06/08
@ye - There is an old Japanese proverb ...  MisterMiester | 10/06/08
Yet the FUD against Windows continues despite...  ye | 10/06/08
It's Not FUD  Cardhu | 10/09/08
Spot on assessment  jimr@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ju1ce | 10/06/08
#1 Main Reason for Me: Linux  Seamus O'Brog | 10/06/08
My feelings exactly.  kevinfarringer@... | 10/06/08
FINALLY! Somebody On ZD/Net, in the Tank for MicroShaft From Day One  drprod@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ramnet@... | 10/06/08
Thanks, Sir  jimr@... | 10/06/08
Vista Failed because it actually did suck!  PMUP | 10/06/08
Blunt language  jimr@... | 10/06/08
Vista failed because...  Jeremy W | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Cal Woosnam | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  toedipper | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  lennyjg | 10/06/08
Microsoft just couldn't figure...  billmichael | 10/06/08
Ah, not so fast .....  fr0thy2 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jy.durocher@... | 10/06/08
Vista didn't fail; Microsoft's handling of Vista failed.  MaxKorban | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  rbslack@... | 10/06/08
I'm sorry, I must have mistakenly logged into the Jr. High School forum  Lunatic59 | 10/06/08
My aren't you touchy  jimr@... | 10/06/08
Thank you for your support.  Lunatic59 | 10/06/08
And you actually think focus groups work?  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
Microsoft Does Not Render The Final Verdict  Cardhu | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  zdnet@... | 10/06/08
The 6 real reasons why Windows Vista failed  Tiberius_Gracchus | 10/06/08
6 stupid un-reasons.  Narg | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  zdnet@... | 10/06/08
What just hit the fan?  CexCells | 10/06/08
Um... Vista didn't fail  Narg | 10/06/08
How To Gage Failure  -hh | 10/08/08
Vista: too fat to live  TEHD | 10/06/08
RE: The top reason vista failed  dcsos | 10/06/08
listen up people  Linux Geek | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Tom in Toronto | 10/06/08
He shoots: Nothing But FUD.  notsofast | 10/06/08
All Of Your Points Rest On Distribution  Cardhu | 10/09/08
Wrong  notsofast | 10/09/08
Then Clarify Your Post  Cardhu | 10/12/08
Generally correct  John L. Ries | 10/06/08
Reason # 5  John L. Ries | 10/06/08
Even "Ridicule" Is Too Strong A Descriptor  Cardhu | 10/09/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ktechman | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  FiOS-Dave | 10/06/08
Some disagreement  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  dosmastr@... | 10/06/08
agreed(nt)  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  bellyfuz | 10/06/08
Maybe you should Buy Windows 3.11  CobraA1 | 10/06/08
Why not?  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  tamere666 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  richardmitnick | 10/06/08
The One reason Vista failed!!!!  enawn | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  bob_barnes@... | 10/06/08
Use what you want but for me Vista rocks  tech_walker | 10/06/08
Use what you want but for me Vista rocks  kodakmak | 10/06/08
Yes, Vista works fine now, if ...  Jason HinerZDNet Moderator | 10/06/08
Enterprise has always been a slow to change OS  tech_walker | 10/06/08
#5 Should Be Replaced  Cardhu | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  huzain_a@... | 10/06/08
Expect a Government take over of Microsoft?  BALTHOR | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  leigh@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jestewart1 | 10/06/08
Vista failed BEFORE Vista SP1. Now it's ALL RIGHT  Gruffydd | 10/06/08
It's easy  mlindl | 10/06/08
Are you trying to say something intelligent?  Gruffydd | 10/06/08
I'd argue that it HASN'T failed ...  mwagner@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  custserv@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  harrisharris | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  douglasjohnledet@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Selvarin | 10/06/08
FUD - big time! A "nothing new" article  computer@... | 10/06/08
Tweak it ?  DavidR_HHDI | 10/06/08
WOW - what a responce  DavidR_HHDI | 10/06/08
RE: The Lame Game  mystic100 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  mpnc | 10/06/08
It was Mac Word 5.0 all over again...  vineel@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jonsymes@... | 10/06/08
Say what?! You are an IT manager, and could not realize how good Vista is?  Gruffydd | 10/06/08
Beau Ford RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  beau@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  cottontail | 10/06/08
Wake up,! it did not fail  stan@... | 10/06/08
Who's not awake?  TedKraan | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  remarden@... | 10/06/08
One reason why Windows Vista failed. Mine.  roseman | 10/06/08
RE: Lots of bad facts  mystic100 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gwzap2008 | 10/06/08
Reason Number 6: need 8 years between major releases.  bob@... | 10/06/08
in a strangely literate column  gabrielbear@... | 10/06/08
My opinion of Vista? three words: Windows Millennium Edition  zmanjz@... | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  timspublic1@... | 10/06/08
At last some one else noticed  dianecmiles@... | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  atari8bit@... | 10/06/08
Featureless VISTA  VintageGeek | 10/06/08
ONE REASON WHY VISTA FAILED...ONLY ONE  Cayble | 10/06/08
Vista is not a failure, just not a success.  mrdood_99205@... | 10/06/08
There were mistakes with Vista BUT it is not slower  jimk_z | 10/06/08
Absolute rubbish  tonymcs@... | 10/06/08
I use it.  dianecmiles@... | 10/08/08
PEBKAC i'm afraid.  xuniL_z | 10/09/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  j3rrry@... | 10/06/08
cant wait until mac os's are vmware ready  pcguy777 | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  deowll | 10/06/08
MY reason for dumping vista.  kraterz | 10/06/08
RE: The top ten reasons why Windows Vista failed  sykandtyed | 10/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  CarlitosLx | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  d,duffer@... | 10/07/08
Stop the Vista bashing already!  MrViklund | 10/07/08
maybe you dont see the big picture  shakeywbc | 10/07/08
@ye: @-hh: Not only can one not find free TCO reports but...  -hh | 10/07/08
Post details, please  Lunatic59 | 10/07/08
we're all interested in good numbers, but...  -hh | 10/07/08
TCO costs are company confidential.  Sleeper Service | 10/10/08
Shrink-wrap box vs Subscription Model  oldbaritone | 10/07/08
Good list, except for #2  nstuff | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  cees_pieters@... | 10/07/08
Cost too much, needs too much, wants too much  terry flores | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  yid_witch@... | 10/07/08
My take  HypnoToad | 10/07/08
Tsk Tsk  Edward P | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Romano4444 | 10/07/08
Never really crossed paths.  joe.smetona@... | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  mjt103055@... | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  unclefixer@... | 10/07/08
What's really so bad about Vista?  Ole Man | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons to install Linux or buy a Mac  The Rifleman | 10/07/08
Remember Windows ME...  jay@... | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  wellduh | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  vicbnet | 10/07/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  suemccartin | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  cd003284@... | 10/08/08
The Compelling reason to move to Vista  Animal13 | 10/08/08
64bit isn't that compelling...or unique to Vista  -hh | 10/09/08
Most obvious reason Vista failed:! Ridiculous Solitaire graphics  jburns@... | 10/08/08
And what does it add?  Samun56 | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  marc_90292@... | 10/08/08
I don't have time....  michael@... | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jgt@... | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Stovies | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Stovies | 10/08/08
Nice article - good points  jpr75_z | 10/08/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  soulbarn2@... | 10/08/08
Vista failed because it used the Microsoft method.  as901 | 10/09/08
Number 6 - Vista plagued by Moments of Truth  terry_schurter | 10/09/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jordjarn@... | 10/09/08
Vista and Leopard have lots in common.  roystonlodge | 10/09/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  hgeorgescu@... | 10/09/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Zolar | 10/09/08
Exressgate / Splashtop  jquarg1@... | 10/09/08
Exressgate / Splashtop  TEHD | 10/10/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 10/10/08
MY MY MY  Crestview | 10/10/08
re: MY MY MY  seannj427 | 10/10/08
MY MY MY  will o | 10/10/08
Vista was abandoned by Broadband vendors.  Hates Idiots | 10/10/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  wanderson | 10/10/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ebhb2004@... | 10/10/08
Vista Failed  Mahegan | 10/11/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Pharaoh36706 | 10/11/08
What's really so bad about Vista?  Ole Man | 10/11/08
Where's the maturity? ...  BlazingEagle | 10/11/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  sfatouros | 10/12/08
Not to mention  jctcom | 10/16/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  phillipmai | 10/12/08
expressgate / splashtop  jquarg1@... | 10/12/08
Windows 7 what a Joke  rtb | 10/13/08
RE: Gotta love Vista !!!!  damacman | 10/13/08
RE: Beta ?????  damacman | 10/13/08
RE: What a laugher !!!  damacman | 10/13/08
The REAL reasons Windows Vista failed  SparkySnark | 10/14/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  frosteez | 10/14/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  owen35ny | 10/15/08
I don't understand what is wrong with me  rawdibob | 10/15/08
There's nothing wrong with you  bb_apptix | 11/10/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  ernman111@... | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  shadfurman | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  shadfurman | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  shadfurman | 10/15/08
hehe wow. that's funny.  jctcom | 10/16/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  shadfurman | 10/15/08
Suggested sign for your business  Ole Man | 10/15/08
Let's not forget MS's arrogance.  The_Curmudgeon | 10/15/08
"there are now good, though not great, options in the Linux"  Ole Man | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  deowll | 10/15/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gerrynsue@... | 10/15/08
actually let's try to realize that....  jctcom | 10/16/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  hiew2001 | 10/15/08
that's a gud joke..  notifychandan | 10/15/08
Not sure  notifychandan | 10/15/08
RE: Vista and Leopard have lots in common  Spuddrok | 10/15/08
Irony  Sleeper Service | 10/22/08
Inertia vs competition  roberto_maietta@... | 10/16/08
Vista's Changes Are Both Good and Bad  Cardhu | 10/16/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  tgreenly25 | 10/17/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gregmor | 10/17/08
It's all subjective anyway  gazzawazza | 10/18/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  Meanstr@... | 11/06/08
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  suebear979 | 11/07/08
Perhaps not enough benefits  DonG43 | 12/04/08
Vista's all right  gjampol@... | 12/08/08
Vista still sucks  Roastmeat | 12/09/08
I Agree, Vista Deserves It's Bad Reputation  chessmen | 12/31/08
Dissagree with Point 1 somewhat  se_lain@... | 01/03/09
A few problems with this article  Lerianis | 04/06/09
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  jtimouri | 04/07/09
This sentence needs to be rewritten...  StevenOz | 04/07/09
Why?  fairportfan | 04/07/09
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  MadKaugh | 04/08/09
Subscription based?  spyro17@... | 04/11/09
Paying monthly for Windows is a bad investment  Randalllind | 05/12/09
RE: The top five reasons why Windows Vista failed  gwreg4fge | 10/27/09

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