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January 22nd, 2009

Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 8:00 am

Categories: General, Hardware Infrastructure, Intel, Microsoft, Software Infrastructure

Tags: Microsoft Corp., Netbook, Cover Story, Netbooks, Nettops & MIDs, Hardware, Larry Dignan

Embedded in Microsoft’s earnings report and restructuring news was an implicit message that’s hard to ignore: Netbooks are disruptive and wreaking havoc in the industry.

On the surface, Microsoft’s earnings report (initial take, statement, Techmeme) had a bevy of bad news. Earnings were short of expectations. Microsoft “is not immune” to the economy. And PC demand was weak.

But once you dig a little deeper you notice that Microsoft’s business units actually held up well (click right to enlarge). We’re not talking massive declines. In the enterprise, Microsoft delivered solid results. For instance, the server and tools unit had revenue of $3.74 billion, up from $3.26 billion a year ago. Microsoft’s business division had flat revenue. Online services lost money–again–but that hardly shocks anyone.

And then you get to the client side of the house. Revenue was $3.98 billion, down from $4.33 billion a year ago.

The cover story is obvious. PC demand stinks. That means less Vista. That means Microsoft’s margins are crimped. But the big issue is netbooks. (See Mary Jo Foley’s Microsoft blames netbook appeal, marketing costs for Windows drop.)

The good news for Microsoft: XP is riding shotgun on netbooks in most cases. The bad news: Microsoft doesn’t get as much dough.

Is it any wonder that Windows 7 has netbooks in mind too?

These lower priced netbooks are going to be the bane of Microsoft–and probably Intel too. Intel has to sell a lot more Atom chips just to bring home the profits the rest of its chip lineup provides. Intel’s story is that netbooks are incremental. Maybe.

Also see: Netbook reviews

But as these little netbooks become more popular Microsoft is going to get hit. The last thing Microsoft wants to do is sell more XP.

Techies step back and marvel at the creative destruction at hand here. Intel and Microsoft are potentially cannibalizing their own businesses. That’s wonderful for netbook fans. As a business decision it’s questionable. Of course, Microsoft has no choice. XP on netbooks is better than the alternative–Linux.

Watching the Microsoft results also brings home another key point. Apple reportedly doesn’t get the netbook market. But if your business shtick is being a premium brand why would you bother with cheap PCs. Apple’s decision to ignore the netbook may look better with each passing day.

Larry DignanLarry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and Editorial Director of ZDNet sister site TechRepublic. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft
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The fact is not everybody needs a feature rich OS  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
So based on you're theory of Netbooks I would say  James Quinn | 01/22/09
I don't disagree with that  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
Hooray, Windows 7 stinks...Down with Windows...  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Yeah, Windows 7 is rotten  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Apple's netbook (iPhone) is better than Windows 7 any day  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
TARD ALERT! TARD ALERT!  Wolfie2K3 | 01/23/09
Whiners and Gasbags  wjkahlssmd@... | 01/24/09
Guys Said He Was Trolling ... You Got Trolled  PMC-CON | 01/27/09
How about trying it first....  xrxca | 01/24/09
Neither do I!  John work | 01/27/09
iPod Touch = PDA  markbn | 01/22/09
Except I think the App Store and the selection  James Quinn | 01/22/09
OK, according to you PDA + App store = netbook  markbn | 01/22/09
My point still stand and the poster I originally  James Quinn | 01/22/09
Your point is incorrect  markbn | 01/22/09
Nor did I say an iTouch was a netbook.....  James Quinn | 01/23/09
An iPhone is a PDA  Rubix_z | 01/23/09
@Wirshipper Jim  markbn | 01/23/09
James Quinn is right, the detractors are wrong  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
I did not miss that class, but I guess you missed the fact that  markbn | 01/24/09
Isn't it a shame Jim  MacCanuck | 01/22/09
I will follow with advise and won't discuss with you  markbn | 01/22/09
Not totally rebuked  MacCanuck | 01/22/09
Re: Not totally rebuked  markbn | 01/22/09
Message has been deleted.  drprod@... | 01/23/09
Nah, I'd call it nitpicking! (nt)  sjbinaz | 01/23/09
Oh Boy...Another guy that uses the term "ad hominem"  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
@drprod: I am sure you can do ad hominem attacks  markbn | 01/24/09
Which is why?  3monkies | 01/23/09
The function is the same but not the same format.  sjbinaz | 01/23/09
Yeah, I would agree, Aplle's netbook is  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
There is no Apple netbook  markbn | 01/24/09
some of your are either...  pcguy777 | 01/23/09
Apple's Netbook = iPhone/iTouch, makes sense  caspianhiro | 01/23/09
Sorry it does not make sense  markbn | 01/23/09
Apple's Netbook = iPhone/iTouch  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
I like Apple's Netbook (iPhone)  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Apple Fanboy...  fuego96@... | 01/23/09
The iPhone is not a netbook  markbn | 01/24/09
Your opinion does not matter at all  markbn | 01/24/09
Apple's Netbook = iPhone/iTouch, quite nice.  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Not...Quite, Jim  drprod@... | 01/23/09
Phone/PDA/Netbook Companion DEvice  chromeronin | 01/25/09
Feature Rich ? Bloat you mean !  Alan Smithie | 01/22/09
80% of people don't....  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
That would be true....  storm14k | 01/22/09
Linux supports MS Office now?  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Oh...my bad.  storm14k | 01/22/09
It's the only one that anyone really cares about.  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
You said software that works and is supported...  storm14k | 01/22/09
No...  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
MS Office? Who the heck uses that?  SpikeyMike | 01/22/09
They really are a sheltered bunch...  storm14k | 01/22/09
It's unlikely you'll ever be in the position...  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Yeah, I totaly agree. It's fun to make MCSE retards look stupid  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
And it's even more fun  markbn | 01/24/09
Linux supports MS Office now?  jestewart1 | 01/23/09
It does through WINE I think (N/T)  markbn | 01/23/09
I agree, but Windows serves a purpose  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Use Crossover (paid program) for MS Office on Linux (nt)  joe.smetona@... | 01/24/09
Message has been deleted.  drprod@... | 01/23/09
Do you eat with that mouth, kid?  sjbinaz | 01/23/09
just because your mommy ran off with the circus midget  tech_walker | 01/24/09
There is a Linux version of MS Office, it's called open office, it's GREAT!  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
well maybe not great but it is free  tech_walker | 01/24/09
It's not just for Linux and it is IMHO great  awasson@... | 01/26/09
Yes they do know what they want.  kozmcrae | 01/22/09
Drivel.  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
I disagree!  SpikeyMike | 01/22/09
Good for you...  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Pay attention now.  kozmcrae | 01/22/09
RE: Pay attention now.  k1nj0 | 01/23/09
Not true k1nj0  kozmcrae | 01/23/09
a generality  fcorless@... | 01/23/09
a generality  windozefreak | 01/23/09
Netbook Linux Installs  chromeronin | 01/25/09
90% of statistics are faked and made up on the spot  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Like THAT one... Right?  Wolfie2K3 | 01/23/09
What block of cheese  MarketingTutor | 02/11/09
Here's one: 80% of this blog readers find you annoying!  sjbinaz | 01/24/09
That is because  MarketingTutor | 02/11/09
Dell sells a great Ubuntu netbook with SSD and 1GB RAM  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Only applies to Window Vista.  TripleII | 01/22/09
Maybe yours is more powerful than mine  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
Yep, just personal preference.  TripleII | 01/22/09
Netbook Remix  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
Netbook Remix  chromeronin | 01/25/09
The purpose of a netbook is to get something done simply and quickly  psion@... | 01/23/09
Wait for bootup, windows lag/load, and then...  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Wait for bootup, windows lag/load, and then  windozefreak | 01/23/09
Lightweight OS, SSD are Wave of the Future  Bob Saint | 01/23/09
Perfectly said, but  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Graphics designers  chromeronin | 01/25/09
not everybody needs a crippled/stripped down OS  brad@... | 01/26/09
Well Brad...  SpikeyMike | 01/27/09
no link? (n/t)  markbn | 01/22/09
What?  James Quinn | 01/22/09
Read the blog post Worshipper Jim  markbn | 01/22/09
No worshiping here... Tried to read your post  James Quinn | 01/22/09
Read the BLOG post  markbn | 01/22/09
Dude?  3monkies | 01/23/09
I stay on the topic: there was a link missing  markbn | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  drf999 | 01/22/09
"You don't have any products I'd like to buy"  bjterry62 | 01/23/09
Are Netbooks disruptive technology?  ThePrairiePrankster | 01/22/09
disruption - or natural evolution  a.barry@... | 01/23/09
Power of a netbook  chromeronin | 01/25/09
sooner or later netbooks will probably be notebooks  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/22/09
PCs aren't used for gaming much anymore, and...  stevey_d | 01/22/09
Looks at PC gaming sales...  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
TIme may be limited on PC games...  storm14k | 01/22/09
See, that's why I look at the sales numbers.  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Apparently you don't look at all of them....  storm14k | 01/22/09
Oh I do...  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
No need to discount anything...  storm14k | 01/22/09
Yes they have.  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Time may be limited on PC games  windozefreak | 01/23/09
No, actually you're wrong.  kozmcrae | 01/22/09
You don't get out much, do you.  itpro_z | 01/22/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  Loverock Davidson | 01/22/09
There's plenty of netbooks with XP  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
I'm aware of that  Loverock Davidson | 01/22/09
re: I'm aware of that  none none | 01/22/09
Perfectly said None None, haha  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Ah...  kozmcrae | 01/22/09
Nothing To See Here - Move Along  Alan Smithie | 01/23/09
Apple's decision not to do a netbook is wise?  Heatlesssun | 01/22/09
Maybe they are coming out with one  Michael Kelly | 01/22/09
Apple Netbook  chromeronin | 01/25/09
WORRY NOT! - Apple is working away to redefine is segment of the market -NT  raycote | 01/22/09
My theory on why Apple wouldn't do a netbook.  roystonlodge | 01/22/09
Snow Leopard sounds a bit like this.  ChrisOPeterson | 01/22/09
small screen a barrier to osx netbook  a.barry@... | 01/23/09
Apple did do a netbook, it's called the iPhone/iPod Touch  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Apple Ipod is a Netbook  rayrock710 | 01/24/09
I remember when Gates came to Dell  DotNetPgmr | 01/22/09
Just a data point.  TripleII | 01/22/09
Some irony.  TripleII | 01/22/09
The time of Microsoft ignoring tech is over  Randalllind | 01/22/09
XP on netbooks is better than Linux?!  roystonlodge | 01/22/09
About $30.  TripleII | 01/22/09
Plus, one other benefit of Linux netbooks.  roystonlodge | 01/22/09
Yep  TripleII | 01/22/09
What AV are you going to use with XP?  joe.smetona@... | 01/23/09
Save Money  chromeronin | 01/25/09
Apple go to Netbooks?  mlindl | 01/22/09
Sounds like car industry  fcorless@... | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  DannyO_0x98 | 01/22/09
Netbooks have nothing to do with it.  bjbrock | 01/22/09
Your tinfoil hat is slipping.  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
Yea he better get it back on....  storm14k | 01/22/09
What truth?  Sleeper Service | 01/22/09
We don't need to wonder.  TripleII | 01/22/09
So True.  joe.smetona@... | 01/23/09
Totally agree  vikingnyc@... | 01/23/09
"Microsoft end virus"  BALTHOR | 01/22/09
Next Up: Battle of the Giants  jabailo1 | 01/22/09
Windokes = JUNK  Christian_<>< | 01/22/09
Bummer  John L. Ries | 01/22/09
I have heard pretty good.  TripleII | 01/22/09
it's only going to get worse for Microsoft  Eduardo_z | 01/22/09
They don't have to "compete"  vikingnyc@... | 01/23/09
But you are wrong  Alan(UK) | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  Ronin1 | 01/22/09
-deleted-  Alan Smithie | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  mlmiller1959@... | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  jdb@... | 01/23/09
Not just you  jdb@... | 01/23/09
Apple is in the Lab  oh my god | 01/23/09
Finally a win for the consumer  GemNEye | 01/23/09
Netbooks hurt computer manufactures too  jscott418 | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks hurt computer manufactures too  GemNEye | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  shanedr | 01/23/09
microsoft and the net  ismoore | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  GemNEye | 01/23/09
System Reboots  chromeronin | 01/25/09
Which product lets me RDC?  sduraybito | 01/23/09
Which product lets me RDC? - Just as I suspected  sduraybito | 01/23/09
Any of the netbooks with a Gnu-Linux OS  r_widell | 01/23/09
At what level of brain-damage?  sduraybito | 01/23/09
remote desktop  chromeronin | 01/25/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  bjterry62 | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  dingers412@... | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  bjterry62 | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  tech_walker | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  bjterry62 | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  RedsReboot-22599354177376338262696428243341 | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  aseltzer | 01/23/09
If you can't beat them, join them!  mwagner@... | 01/23/09
FUD  magallanes | 01/23/09
Don't you think Apple  ShermB | 01/23/09
You ignore one key thing.  TripleII | 01/23/09
@Michael Kelly :which features?  magallanes | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  aseltzer | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  aseltzer | 01/23/09
I hope Windows 7 is a dismal failure  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  mulder9927 | 01/23/09
Sky is falling class market analysis  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/23/09
its the Apple OS  stenman@... | 01/23/09
The OS  chromeronin | 01/25/09
Linux vs XP  binstock@... | 01/23/09
Linux vs XP  Mach5RR | 01/23/09
Why would anyone want to bother with AV on a netbook?  joe.smetona@... | 01/31/09
Another reason Vista sucks compared to XP  imaginemm | 01/23/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  deowll | 01/23/09
What goes around comes around...  Beejaybee | 01/23/09
No, IBM is still an evil empire.  MarketingTutor | 01/23/09
Small Footprint is accessing the Big Iron  baileysc | 01/23/09
And Apple willing to drop lots of loyal customers at short notice  Patanjali | 02/02/09
Cahnge in Scale  chromeronin | 01/25/09
Techie Challenge  fcorless@... | 01/23/09
Flat View  baldwinleo@... | 01/24/09
Use "flat view" no clicking except to reply. (nt)  sjbinaz | 01/24/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  bocamp22 | 01/24/09
The masses want connected, portable and inexpensive  jlfoley | 01/24/09
Has anybody actually bought Vista?  baldwinleo@... | 01/24/09
Yes. Kinda.  DNSB | 01/24/09
sure I've bought it until 7 no other OS  tech_walker | 01/24/09
Acer reports XP selling 9 times better than Linux  tech_walker | 01/24/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  junglady | 01/24/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  chromeronin | 01/25/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  chromeronin | 01/25/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  atari8bit@... | 01/26/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  williamacole@... | 01/26/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  bmoura | 01/26/09
Microsoft is going to be squeezed between Apple (Highend) and Linux (Free)  MarkyGoldstein | 01/26/09
Freescale  jabailo1 | 01/29/09
Microsoft still making money on netbooks  Patanjali | 02/02/09
Apple has made a netbook.  bendib | 02/13/09
RE: Netbooks become the bane of Microsoft  rcugini@... | 02/20/09

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