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February 22nd, 2009

Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money

Posted by Sam Diaz @ 12:21 pm

Categories: General, Layoffs, Microsoft

Tags: Accounting, Microsoft Corp., Worker, Internet, Operational Accounting, Financial Services, Finance, Sam Diaz

No matter how you slice it or dice it, there’s no way Microsoft comes out smelling like a rose on this one.

As the company was handing out pink slips to some 1,400 employees last month, the accounting department apparently was using fingers and toes to calculate severance packages. It turns out that the company overpaid these former workers and, now that the error has been discovered, Microsoft wants its money back.

The copy of the letter floating around the Internet has the names and dollar amounts blacked out so it’s hard to say if the payback amount is $10, $100, $1,000 or more. And we also don’t know if all 1,400 laid-off workers were affected. But, just for laughs, let’s do some very simple layman’s math:

If it’s a $10 overpayment, then the overpayment comes to $14,000. At $100, it totals $140,000 and at $1,000, we come up with a whopping $1.4 million in overpayments. On the other side of that equation, there’s Microsoft’s cash-in-the-bank: roughly $20.7 billion at the end of the last quarter. Let’s just say the company takes the $1.4 million loss out of their cash-on-hand. (I know it’s likely more complicated than that, but for this example, let’s assume that’s how it happens.) That leaves the company with roughly $20,698,600,000. Rounded up, that leaves the company with… Hey, what do you know? It’s still $20.7 billion.

Again, we don’t know the amounts at play here. But given the negative publicity - did anyone really think that this wouldn’t end up on the Internet? - wouldn’t it have been easier to just take the write-off and avoid dumping even more salt into the wounds of the laid-off workers? And what if the company has to take legal action to recover those funds? The lawyers will surely get paid, right?

Just wondering: is the head of accounting coughing up any of his paycheck to cover this flub?

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Posted by: Col Mustard Posted on: 03/08/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Not uncommon  LandonAB | 02/22/09
They did the calculations using their own software probably.  fr0thy2 | 02/23/09
Calculations...  NStalnecker | 02/23/09
Not if ....  Linux_4u! | 02/23/09
Indeed...  GuyAlanDye | 02/23/09
Yeah... Excel...  mg215199 | 02/23/09
Cite  daengbo | 02/23/09
Google Docs  MissingMatter | 02/23/09
yeah cuz LINUX  answrtek | 02/25/09
Wrong people laid off  Taget | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  realneil@... | 02/22/09
Agree, they should just take the hit.  rtk | 02/22/09
I understand that they also underpaid  mdemuth | 02/23/09
Laid-off worker to Microsoft:  jpfreemon@... | 02/23/09
Before the anti-MS flame crusade arrives...  MGP2 | 02/22/09
If I was an ex-MS Employee  Marcos El Malo | 02/22/09
Yes, Very Dumb  Tim Patterson | 02/23/09
But wait , thats not all  answrtek | 02/25/09
Trolled - Mike Cox Is A Fake  PMC-CON | 02/25/09
They were thinking with their calculators.  kozmcrae | 02/22/09
One more thing...  MGP2 | 02/22/09
one more thing  realneil@... | 02/22/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  CBD, Ltd. | 02/22/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  mlttaylor | 02/22/09
Principles matter  Maxfli82 | 03/05/09
no  fita2 | 02/22/09
Ethics are personal  mosborne | 02/22/09
Let's be clear...  techboy_z | 02/23/09
To be loyal with the company that betray you.  magallanes | 02/23/09
So if you ever quit a company  mdemuth | 02/23/09
Loyalty  rufusbmore@... | 02/23/09
Economy slowed down? Wrong !!!  answrtek | 02/25/09
Loyalty  MissingMatter | 02/23/09
Too bad your "integrity" isn't edible...  moviedemon | 02/23/09
What do you expect from the greedy BORG  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/24/09
You don't get out much, eh?  MGP2 | 02/24/09
Well fancy that...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/24/09
Maxfli82  Maxfli82 | 03/05/09
Moviedemon  Col Mustard | 03/08/09
Yes they are  davidhite | 02/23/09
Ethics should be more than personal  gatorgal615 | 02/24/09
ethics needed  Maxfli82 | 03/05/09
fita2  Col Mustard | 03/08/09
Unethical people?  fr0thy2 | 02/23/09
It's plain to see where the "frothy" in frothy2 comes from.  MGP2 | 02/23/09
Granted he's a bit excited but still he does have a  James Quinn | 02/23/09
What is good for the goose? Jim you are TOO funny.  xuniL_z | 02/23/09
It's based on what I've observed and learned  James Quinn | 02/23/09
There is a better way in a free country.......  xuniL_z | 02/24/09
xunil_z, where ya been?  MGP2 | 02/23/09
Hey MGP2  xuniL_z | 02/24/09
Http://stage.......  atari8bit@... | 02/23/09
to Pagan Jim  Col Mustard | 03/08/09
One of the biggest employers in the world...  Marty R. Milette | 02/24/09
at least two  rtk | 02/24/09
frothy2  Col Mustard | 03/08/09
Not enough details.  thecomputerdoc@... | 02/23/09
VISTA Users to Microsoft: Give us OUR money back!  hoham | 02/22/09
Yeah...  ogmanx@... | 02/22/09
Here MS website and address  consoleclassix | 02/22/09
Good idea!  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/24/09
This ain't new and isn't a relevation  answrtek | 02/25/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  educateme@... | 02/22/09
Ethics, Morality, and Shame  Thinker3 | 02/22/09
Did they use excel?  TripleII | 02/22/09
Did they use Excel?  xuniL_z | 02/23/09
Do you have a plausible explanation other than excel problems?  InAction Man | 02/23/09
I'd rather share this with you...  MGP2 | 02/23/09
I'd rather share  Col Mustard | 03/08/09
Plausible explanation?  xuniL_z | 02/24/09
Correct me if I'm wrong...  MGP2 | 02/24/09
Sarcasm? No way.  xuniL_z | 02/25/09
I'm sure they did!  InAction Man | 02/23/09
Microsoft is correct...  Mike Cox | 02/22/09
If only there were more people like you Mike.  kozmcrae | 02/22/09
Dishonest? Wait a second. NO wait a month !  answrtek | 02/25/09
Ha ha  thelivo | 02/22/09
Fished in...  James T. Kirk | 02/23/09
Blush  thelivo | 02/23/09
sorry Mike,  BrutalTruth | 02/23/09
Agreed.  fr0thy2 | 02/23/09
Brilliant Statement  Bill4 | 02/23/09
R&D dollars?  Linux Geek | 02/23/09
Boy, are the fish biting today... (NT)  heres_johnny | 02/23/09
Not biting - Swallowing!  Dr. John | 02/23/09
You know what would be cool?  MGP2 | 02/23/09
Oh wow I can see the lawsuit now....  answrtek | 02/25/09
Do you have ethics or not?  mosborne | 02/22/09
You make a very valid point.  TripleII | 02/22/09
Maybe MS has an out  Marcos El Malo | 02/22/09
I guess it all depends.......  James Quinn | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  jambhajuice | 02/22/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  rx.sdsu@... | 02/22/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  bruceman007 | 02/22/09
Install Linux and forget about MS! happy  Christian_<>< | 02/22/09
Or I could  NStalnecker | 02/22/09
Yes the wonders of UAC...  hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 02/24/09
What is it with you?  NStalnecker | 02/23/09
It's the only interaction they get...  MGP2 | 02/23/09
or maybe....  answrtek | 02/25/09
What  answrtek | 02/25/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  w1_m2@... | 02/22/09
MS stuffs up - is this news?  Richard Flude | 02/22/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  pknmccabe@... | 02/22/09
Direct Deposit fine print  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 02/22/09
Erroneous payments  tikigawd | 02/23/09
Direct Deposit  mlttaylor | 02/23/09
Lets all keep a IRS overpayment.  Windows Defender | 02/22/09
Obviously...  Jeremy W | 02/22/09
Ding-ding-ding!!!!  James T. Kirk | 02/23/09
Definitely a cheap shot...  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  sclewis-sr@... | 02/22/09
fire the accountants to make up the difference.  FireThorn | 02/22/09
Frak that  NStalnecker | 02/22/09
Microsofts Motto: Greed is GOOD !!!!!!!  TonyOz | 02/22/09
Publicly traded company  JT82 | 02/23/09
NO! LIES AND SLANDER, IT CAN'T BE TRUE!!  Spiritusindomit@... | 02/23/09
Pickens Doctrine  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  roque@... | 02/23/09
The bigger story...  wolf_z | 02/23/09
Yes, but . . .  CheeseToast | 02/23/09
Ethics are really weak in this thread.  Bruizer | 02/23/09
Ethics.  michael.tindall@... | 02/23/09
Thumbs down for the misleading headline  ejhonda | 02/23/09
If we're only talking about a couple hundred  Michael Kelly | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  pdwarren | 02/23/09
Kinda like China asking the family to pay for the bullet ....  kd5auq | 02/23/09
Extremely BAD PR  sam54 | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  hmoulding@... | 02/23/09
"I don't know enough about accounting rules"  qtrback | 02/23/09
It's their mistake but...  Spiritusindomit@... | 02/23/09
Bad for MS to do this, but they ARE right  bighugedave | 02/23/09
Not goind to join the fun  DemonX | 02/23/09
Reverse stimulus  scott1329 | 02/23/09
MS can probably make up the shortfall...  ca1ic0cat | 02/23/09
Robin Hood.  magallanes | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  ajk10219@... | 02/23/09
I don't care what anybody says...  moviedemon | 02/23/09
Finally ....and about time someone says it  answrtek | 02/25/09
I'd send it back, if I could  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
The downside for MS would be...  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  ljmace1953 | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  Stan57 | 02/23/09
What goes around comes around 10 fold  RobinSS1 | 02/23/09
Haven't you been paying attention?  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
Questionable  sboverie@... | 02/23/09
If for no other reason  DanLM | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  JF | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  phatkat | 02/23/09
The real question is this......  James Quinn | 02/23/09
So your ethics are reciprocal?  wolf_z | 02/23/09
Maybe......  James Quinn | 02/23/09
When it comes to money  answrtek | 02/25/09
sad  Maxfli82 | 03/05/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  lwhite@... | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  julio_urquidi@... | 02/23/09
What arrogance! Microshaft has earned its nickname  3dtodd | 02/23/09
20% said they'd give the $$ back to Microshaft = spineless  3dtodd | 02/23/09
It's the honest thing to do  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
Funny thing....  James Quinn | 02/23/09
Crime pays in the short term...  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
What do you consider short term?  James Quinn | 02/23/09
It's a matter of what kind of world you want to live in  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
I see life as a game myself.......  James Quinn | 02/23/09
Actually...  wolf_z | 02/23/09
Wolf is right, of course  John L. Ries | 02/23/09
babble gabble babble - blah blah blah  answrtek | 02/25/09
A contract (even a severence) is time based  kctcom@... | 02/23/09
$18000 per head  unilrn | 02/23/09
No punctuation.....  James Quinn | 02/23/09
It Should Have Been Noticed  donden@... | 02/23/09
It appears you heard wrong....  MGP2 | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  mustangeek | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  Taget | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  Taget | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  donpar | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  john_gillespie@... | 02/23/09
Here's another thought...  omahamike | 02/23/09
It's really about you  voyce | 02/23/09
This is so wrong it's hard to count the ways...  mikifinaz1@... | 02/23/09
Ex employees should give the money back...  Dave32265 | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  jes940 | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  cosmicfoole@... | 02/23/09
MS = greed  jes940 | 02/23/09
You heard it on the Internet? Must be true...  Narg | 02/23/09
The workers should keep the money and spend it to help end the recession  InAction Man | 02/23/09
Money-back??  hhudson@... | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  AussieDownUnder | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  geomon | 02/23/09
But why so much effort on the negativity?  MGP2 | 02/23/09
news flash: Microsoft lets workers(25)keep the $4k extra  dcsos | 02/23/09
That's Pathetically Sad (and Funny)  melekali | 02/23/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  Disgruntled M$ User | 02/24/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  Bellhop | 02/24/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  pppaulll | 02/24/09
20% of pollers are dumb!  XweAponX | 02/24/09
Simmer down  Gralyndr | 02/24/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  answrtek | 02/25/09
RE: Microsoft to laid-off workers: Give us back our money  mra@... | 03/05/09

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