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April 20th, 2009

Is Oracle serious about hardware?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 10:18 am

Categories: Cisco, Cloud computing, Datacenter, Dell, General, Hardware Infrastructure, Hewlett-Packard, IBM, Oracle, Sun

Tags: Oracle Corp., Sun Microsystems Inc., Server, Hardware, Larry Dignan

Oracle’s acquisition of Sun Microsystems brings a sizeable hardware business to Larry Ellison’s gang. The larger question is how serious is Oracle about Sun’s hardware?

On a conference call with analysts (Techmeme), Oracle executives just happened to mention that Sun’s manufacturing was outsourced. That mention was notable because it means Oracle can pick and choose its hardware spots, unwind some systems and sell others. 

Enterprise Irregular Anshu Sharma mentioned on our group mailing list that Oracle may have valued Sun’s hardware business at zero. Yup. Zip. Zilch. Nada. Sharma notes:

  • Oracle keeps all software parts of Sun.
  • Sells off or shuts down hardware business with bad margins. Perhaps Oracle partner HP would want a few chunks. EMC may want some storage lines. And any chip maker would want the Sparc intellectual property. If the market rebounds private equity may be interested. 
  • Oracle would hang on to a few hardware lines to build its uber-database-data center machine. 
  • The HP Exadata machine with Oracle keeps going. 

If you’re wondering how Oracle would improve Sun’s margins in the first year selling off hardware lines may be a good place to start. Oracle’s contention that it can make Sun its most earnings accretive acquisition every either means that Sun was way inefficient (partially true) or Larry Ellison is going to dump the weak businesses. Burton Group is also in the camp that believes Oracle will unload Sun’s hardware businesses and Bob Warfield predicts a major shakeup ahead

Is Oracle really up for the server dogfight? After all, Deutsche Bank analyst Chris Whitmore foreshadows a hellish server fight ahead. Forget about profit margins. Forget about sales increases. And advancements like cloud computing and virtualization all mean that fewer servers will be sold in the future. 

Whitmore writes:

Both Cisco and Oracle have recently entered the server market. As a result, we expect competition to intensify significantly over the next few quarters. This is most negative for HP, Dell and to a lesser extent, IBM. While the market is not terribly attractive from a growth and margin perspective, it is still strategic to Cisco’s and Oracle’s broader datacenter opportunities.

In other words, servers will just be tacked on to other stuff. Whitmore also adds that Sun’s server business may require “incremental investment, or face more share loss.” Look for Oracle to do a little pruning before it blows any dough on Sun’s hardware business.

Other threads: Perhaps Oracle’s purchase of Sun is just a step on the way to offering services like IBM

Oracle buys Sun coverage:

Oracle buys Sun; Now owns Java; Becomes a hardware player

Larry DignanLarry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and Editorial Director of ZDNet sister site TechRepublic. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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  • Most Recent of 16 Talkback(s)
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?
Being Serious about Hardware, or not, is pretty irrelevant in this case. The key point is Oracle wants to make $1.5b from SUN in the first year. Once you ask yourself how, you quickly realise this wil... (Read the rest)
Posted by: smycroft Posted on: 04/22/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
The tech landscape is starting to look like the oil industry  pcguy777 | 04/21/09
I completely agree  bnordberg | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  pickespu | 04/21/09
End of free Java?  LBean | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  JHurwitz | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  mwagner@... | 04/21/09
Oracle will also get:  914four | 04/21/09
Java, Legacy?  Eleutherios | 04/21/09
Ellison's Designs  LBean | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  cliffhannel | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  RWNorman | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  phatkat | 04/21/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  georgimilev@... | 04/21/09
Never mind hardware, does this mark an end to free Java  mandrake64 | 04/21/09
The Deal may be at Risk of Being Killed by the Government  lcarliner@... | 04/22/09
RE: Is Oracle serious about hardware?  smycroft | 04/22/09

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