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April 27th, 2009

Verizon and the iPhone: Nothing to report today, but...

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:10 am

Categories: AT&T, Apple, General, Mobile, Telecommunications, Verizon, Wired & Wireless

Tags: Apple iPhone, Network, Verizon Communications Inc., AT&T Corp., Apple Inc., Verizon Wireless, Tool, Negotiation, Apple Obviously, Free Trade

Updated: Apple is reportedly talking to Verizon Wireless about bringing the iPhone to the carrier, according to USA Today. And Verizon executives aren’t exactly pooh-poohing the reports.  On a conference call, Verizon operating chief Dennis Strigl said the company is always talking to device makers, but had “no announcements to make relative to Apple today.”

USA Today reported that Apple is in high-level talks about bringing the iPhone to Verizon Wireless. The news comes just a few days after AT&T chief Randall Stephenson said that the company was looking to extend its exclusive pact with Apple. Following Verizon’s strong first quarter earnings, Strigl said the following:

We’re always open to discussions with any supplier. We have no announcements to make relative to Apple today. Historically we haven’t been dependent on any one device.

The message: Verizon Wireless could very well be talking to Apple—not that Strigl would say so directly. And Verizon is in a strong position since AT&T had its iPhone bump and the wireless carrier is still performing well. Reading between the lines, it could be that Apple needs Verizon Wireless’ 86.6 million customers more than the wireless carrier needs the iPhone. Apple has an exclusive deal with AT&T, which has 78.2 million subscribers, but the iPhone’s addressable U.S. market could more than double with a Verizon deal. 

A move to Verizon would be notable because the iPhone would be available on a CDMA wireless network compared to AT&T’s GSM technology, according to USA Today. But is this a really big deal? Other phones work on both technologies. 

This Verizon-Apple story largely boils down to two words: Network and negotiation.

First, Apple is likely to want to expand iPhone distribution to other networks. And Verizon Wireless is the second half of a U.S. wireless potential duopoly. Why wouldn’t Apple want to lock down the U.S. wireless market by having the two largest carriers in the fold?

And then there’s the network reliability. Verizon Wireless’ coverage is just better than AT&T’s. And as Om Malik notes Verizon Wireless can give Apple an LTE network to play with. The iPhone with better coverage and 4G could be interesting. Verizon executives talked up their LTE buildout. 

But this Apple-Verizon story probably comes down to negotiation. AT&T put its cards on the table. It really wants to extend its deal with Apple. Apple obviously wants to explore other options. The game: Squeeze AT&T into a better deal. Verizon is more than happy to play along.

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Begging...  zithero@... | 04/27/09
Apple only has a minor influence in the  xXSpeedzXx | 04/27/09
hmmm...AT&T exclusivity is about 3G. Maybe Apple will go 4G with Verizon?  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
That's what was said about the music industry was it not ?  Intellihence | 04/27/09
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I find it hard to believe you used a BB  LiquidLearner | 04/27/09
NOT ON THE NOT WORK!!!!!!  itguy08 | 04/27/09
Networks are relative to where you live?  eric@... | 04/27/09
confused...  condelirios | 04/27/09
You must be  itguy08 | 04/27/09
The NOT WORK?? Are you kidding me?  arvtpei | 04/27/09
This does not mean that Apple and AT&T will stop  James Quinn | 04/27/09
Right  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 04/27/09
Yes. AT&T will remain exclusive (per contract) with AT&T.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Still won't own an iPhone until...  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
Jobs a control freak?  dheady@... | 04/27/09
Jobs is a control freak and the Telcos are just greedy  T1Oracle | 04/27/09
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Huh?  stano360 | 05/19/09
There is a difference  midenginedrift | 05/19/09
More revisionist history.  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
Hmmm...maybe that's why Verizon is #2 compared to AT&T being #1? (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Wrong.  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
And Apple is going too miss you why?  James Quinn | 04/27/09
Apple is a tiny percentage of total worldwide sales of cell phones.  ths40 | 04/27/09
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I could do 2 out of three on my Blackberry Pearl. No tethering.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Who said I was a MS fanboy?  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
Well...gee, calling me an Idiot instead of pleading your support is a start  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Elaborate on his hatred of Apple?  ths40 | 04/27/09
Frankly, I doubt he owns two Apple computers. Secondly 'other' companies...  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
And once again, you would be wrong.  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
OK....here it comes....  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Lawl at AT&T  mysticpam | 04/27/09
Possible impact on Verizon network/users??  iTeaBoy | 04/27/09
Would BlackBerry Storm users be affected?  dheady@... | 04/27/09
Did you read the article? iPhone has not slowed the AT&T network.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Yes I did... but you obviously didn't  iTeaBoy | 04/28/09
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Still won't own an iPhone  compudog | 04/27/09
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Why is it...  ths40 | 04/27/09
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So you can't tether a Blackberry...really?  IT_Guy_z | 04/27/09
Uhh...show me where I can tether my BlackBerry Pearl. Please! Beotch!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Because there are two ways of doing that....  James Quinn | 04/27/09
Why do I want to carry another battery? My iPhone lasts 12 hours!  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Ummm....use the Web! It's easy to see how to convert them to iPhone (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Guess what  Ben_rockwood | 04/27/09
RE: Apple eyes Verizon iPhone deal; Network matters or negotiation tool?  ron.connal@... | 04/27/09
RE: Apple eyes Verizon iPhone deal; Network matters or negotiation tool?  joseph.longo@... | 04/27/09
RE: Apple eyes Verizon iPhone deal; Network matters or negotiation tool?  Texasglide@... | 04/27/09
Bottom line...  tonyhunterajh | 04/27/09
You go boy! Alright! (NT)  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Why anyone does exclusivity contracts is beyond me.  Been_Done_Before | 04/27/09
More attractive daily  LiquidLearner | 04/27/09
RE: Apple eyes Verizon iPhone deal; Network matters or negotiation tool?  agbdoc | 04/27/09
Ain't gonna happen  rag@... | 04/27/09
I agree. But I think Verizon is working on a 4G tech.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Verizon is adopting GSM for its 4G network rollout...  olePigeon | 04/27/09
not excatly !!  Ben_rockwood | 04/27/09
And as far as I know the contract specified 3G. Verizon can get by with 4G.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 04/27/09
Verizon's network is "just better" huh?  the.ksmm | 04/27/09
Where's No_Ax To Predict Failure?  itanalyst2@... | 04/27/09
RE: Apple eyes Verizon iPhone deal; Network matters or negotiation tool?  mangler | 06/22/09
iPhone limited?  fernande-zdnet | 07/20/09

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