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April 29th, 2009

Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?

Posted by Tom Steinert-Threlkeld @ 1:33 pm

Categories: Communications, Credit crisis, E-commerce, Economy, General, Government, Politics

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Maybe it’s just me (and my wife).

We still put spare change into a piggy bank (a red pig, actually), as we go. Pays for a nice dinner, every now and then.

So it floors me, still, when I see the dimensions of the federal budget and how we pay (or don’t) for what we do.

Check this, but the federal budget is now $3.5 trillion. Okay. But the deficit is … $1.7 trillion?

This means our federal government only pays for half of what it spends by taxing you and me for it. The rest has to be borrowed.

That’s not going to keep up. China is already making noises about not buying more Treasury notes. And, why do I not believe that President Obama is going to be able to bring down the deficit as fast as he hopes and/or projects?

Doesn’t matter. The real worry is what happens when the crunch comes and our Wired President decides he’s got to find new sources of revenue to make ends meet.

Yeah, it’s cool to communicate with contributors, constituents and colleagues via the Internet and email. So, by extension, he’ll also be the first president to recognize the value of … taxing Internet and other electronic communications.

Let’s see.

E-Commerce. There’s really no reason that an online store should have a sales tax advantage over an offline store. Stiff the States. Let’s levy a federal sales tax on Web shopping carts. Charge 4 percent on each buck. If online sales manage to hit $200 billion in 2010, that $8 billion more in the federal treasury.

E-Mail. Hey, this is the Blackberry addict. Why are there no stamps on e-mail? States have tried to tax e-mail. But this guy – and his CIO and CTO – could figure out how to make it stick. If Americans account for even one-fourth of the 2 million emails sent a second in the world, that’s 1 million messages every four seconds and 8 trillion a year. A 4-cent stamp – one-tenth of what’s on a paper piece of mail – would generate … $320 billion a year. Now, you’re talking some real money.

And then there’s … the tweet.

Who knows how many 140-character messages are being sent every second, by Americans. But Americans love to send short text messages. And it’s easy to see another 8 trillion or so emerging here every year.

Pretty soon, communications winds up solving a lot of the revenue shortfall in this country. Heck, taxing authorities figured this out long ago. In New York, for instance, local, state and federal taxes add about 20 percent to the cost of a cell phone bill.

Now, if you were President Obama, you’ll avoid the use of communications taxes as long as you can. Would kind of undercut you with your Internet supporters that gave so many small contributions that you wound up in the White House in the first place.

But, if push comes to shove, and the budget refuses to balance, Barack Obama is a realist.

And he understands that cell phones, e-mail, text messages and tweets are eminently taxable.

If a federal cash crunch comes (hey, Bank of America, need another hundred billion?), don’t be totally surprised if he redefines what it means to be an Internet president.

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Hmm, so, it's bad if a rebublican president spent a total of $91 billion, according to your number there, o... (Read the rest)
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Not a fan, but....  djmik | 04/29/09
That would be the silver lining  Tom Steinert-ThrelkeldZDNet Moderator | 04/29/09
Are you kidding?  osreinstall | 04/29/09
Doesn't the United States Government get enough money from TAXES!!!  ryanlee05 | 04/30/09
Well.... No, it doesn't.  cure1245@... | 04/30/09
You are missing the big picture.  GSavage777 | 04/30/09
It's simple....  GSavage777 | 04/30/09
I totally agree with you  The Scummy One | 04/30/09
It's simple  Gpa's | 04/30/09
sales tax  atari8bit@... | 04/30/09
Taxes won't help with the debt to China, and others.  Dr. John | 04/30/09
Good point!  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
I'm not paying for other people's bills  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Unfortunately...  Dr. John | 05/11/09
Because they're spending, we should pay???  DaedalusK71 | 05/03/09
I did not agree with taxing the internet.  osreinstall | 04/30/09
I do not want it but.........  MLHACK | 04/30/09
Simply amazing  Speednet | 04/30/09
Hmmmm  Fred619 | 04/30/09
Please don't flame and lie  Speednet | 04/30/09
Its not my fault  bsa2000 | 04/30/09
Don't impose your value system on me  Speednet | 04/30/09
Throw the bums out!  johnlgsr | 05/01/09
Amen  WriterOfCode | 05/04/09
Hmmm  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Wow, way to get off topic and offensive.  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
Well said Speednet  Mr Something | 04/30/09
We need tax cuts not new taxes  Linux Geek | 04/29/09
Cutting taxes will NOT reduce the deficit  Lerianis | 04/29/09
Completely rubbish  LBiege | 04/29/09
Yes your post is complete rubbish...  storm14k | 04/30/09
Exactly what I'd expect...  IrishPiratetpb | 04/30/09
Exactly what I'd expect  martinfrey@... | 04/30/09
Exactly what I'd expect  bsa2000 | 04/30/09
If anything you just proved....  storm14k | 04/30/09
You have an obligation  jbaviera@... | 05/01/09
can != will  bigsibling | 04/30/09
Try != Can  storm14k | 04/30/09
!(Try) != Lazy  p0figster | 04/30/09
Thank you!  jbaviera@... | 05/01/09
it is not about which party  MLHACK | 04/30/09
Which party  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Well said...  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
Tax the rich more only if. . .  sultan@... | 04/30/09
And who gets to be the arbiter of fair?  Henrik Moller | 04/30/09
Fair is ???????????  Fred619 | 04/30/09
Poor assumption.  Henrik Moller | 04/30/09
And who gets to be the arbiter of fair?  bsa2000 | 04/30/09
Trickle down  Fred619 | 04/30/09
That is naive  roaming | 04/30/09
the two people above me are dipshits  64bitdude | 05/01/09
We need to raise taxes on the richest 1% of America...  Henrik Moller | 04/30/09
re: We need to raise taxes on the richest 1% of America...  Christian_<>< | 04/30/09
You're absolutely wrong.  James T. Kirk | 04/30/09
Both of you are wrong...  storm14k | 04/30/09
Sorry, try again.  James T. Kirk | 04/30/09
No need to try again...  storm14k | 04/30/09
Both wrong?  Gpa's | 04/30/09
re: You're absolutely wrong.  Christian_<>< | 04/30/09
Clueless in cyberspace  rag@... | 04/30/09
You, my friend, are mistaken  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
Deficit  readwryt@... | 04/30/09
Here's an Idea.....  qtrback | 04/30/09
Seems to me.....  schlicht@... | 04/30/09
Not at all  qtrback | 04/30/09
hey moron  64bitdude | 05/01/09
And here is the problem...  storm14k | 04/30/09
What is RICH?  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
Re: Your mistaken....  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Are you off your nut?  readwryt@... | 04/30/09
It's kind of astonishing...  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
Excuse me.....?  qtrback | 04/30/09
Can you name the freedoms you lost?  Speednet | 04/30/09
Can you name the freedoms you lost?  qtrback | 04/30/09
You didn't answer my question qtrback  Speednet | 04/30/09
Wrong  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
Re: Excuse me  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Exactly what freedoms did you lose?  stroutner@... | 05/01/09
Reducing spending never created jobs  T1Oracle | 04/30/09
They can't see it....  storm14k | 04/30/09
Can't See What?  NightFlight | 05/01/09
5% of the profit????  arcebus@... | 04/30/09
Raise the taxes  rhomp2002@... | 04/30/09
Why raising taxes hurts the economy...  goonie@... | 04/30/09
Common Sense  RoughWriter | 04/30/09
I disagree  bsa2000 | 04/30/09
Fair?  NightFlight | 05/01/09
The Facts  pizzaman7 | 04/30/09
The only thing they have proven...  storm14k | 04/30/09
Re: The only thing  Gpa's | 04/30/09
Another Kool-Aid Please  NightFlight | 05/01/09
Doesn't work with Democrat spending  Crestview | 04/30/09
Was $13 billion / year for Iraq not spending?  T1Oracle | 04/30/09
Was $13 billion / year for Iraq not spending?  qtrback | 04/30/09
or  bsa2000 | 04/30/09
Figure?  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
blind in one eye  _DC_ | 05/21/09
Of course balance - debt - tax breaks = no more debt!  T1Oracle | 04/30/09
Taxes are good  rbettencourt@... | 04/30/09
Dreams vs. reality  NickNielsen | 04/30/09
Are you unclear as to what the tea parties were about?  B.O.F.H. | 04/30/09
That will only work if the liberals stop spending!  Mr Something | 04/30/09
Not quite true  roaming | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  pjwilk | 04/29/09
Already here  Bucky24 | 04/30/09
Get used to it  frgough | 04/29/09
This is correct, always has been  Crestview | 04/30/09
and why not....  qtrback | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  davidsonbp@... | 04/30/09
Wasted effort  rag@... | 04/30/09
and MSNBC  Crestview | 04/30/09
The President cannot institute taxes  WiredGuy | 04/30/09
Re: The President cannot institute taxes  Headspin | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  damnfingers | 04/30/09
Tax & spend  rag@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  geekbynecessity | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  rolf.ernst@... | 04/30/09
Laffer Curve  kfan | 04/30/09
If Congress makes the laws...  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
Instead, how about we  Telexer | 04/30/09
I agree ONLY with point #2  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  khhammerle@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  artiste212@... | 04/30/09
HaHaHaHaHaHaHaHa  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
Tax Tweet, YES!  cwallen19803@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  theriginalgeekmom | 04/30/09
Laffing Hard...  qtrback | 04/30/09
Do you mean Laughing..  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
Techies are pretty Stupid  rjacobs@... | 04/30/09
Duh!  GSavage777 | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  ChMacQueen@... | 04/30/09
I beg to differ...  qtrback | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  theriginalgeekmom | 04/30/09
Lobbyists  NightFlight | 05/01/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  Timpraetor | 04/30/09
What a headache THIS could be...  readwryt@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  autodraw | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  Sandra Hartley | 04/30/09
Interesting  rhomp2002@... | 04/30/09
Surefire way to reduce the deficit without increased taxation  cmatrix | 04/30/09
I have two words for that insidious comment...  qtrback | 04/30/09
Completely missing the point  cmatrix | 04/30/09
Don't you think there's a reason...  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
Psychopaths lust for power and control over others  cmatrix | 05/05/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  klangsteiner@... | 04/30/09
OK So long as...  ebiron | 04/30/09
Genius  NightFlight | 05/01/09
A much shorter article...  j@... | 04/30/09
Somewhat of a misnomer, but...  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
incorrect  ElCondor11 | 04/30/09
My bad...  TaxNerd | 04/30/09
The constitution has already been suspended.  Hates Idiots | 04/30/09
Pay Attention! - The problem is to pay what's already spent.  *Gman* | 05/05/09
If you want less of something, Tax it  tech_walker | 04/30/09
He will if...  bernalillo | 04/30/09
Tax and spend legacy.  Hates Idiots | 04/30/09
Bad Science  The_Quietman | 04/30/09
Scientists  magallanes | 04/30/09
Scary associates.  Hates Idiots | 04/30/09
Tax the Internet? and ETC.?  fvm | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  fvm | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  tknight@... | 04/30/09
Reckless speculation!  twirth5@... | 04/30/09
RE: Tax all Non-Text/Commercial E-Mail  ceh4702 | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  jschott@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  abnranger76 | 04/30/09
Spreading Internet around.  Hates Idiots | 04/30/09
$250k  dpatjhh | 04/30/09
two words  magallanes | 04/30/09
liars  pgit | 04/30/09
***KEEP the CHANGE***  tvman@... | 04/30/09
Money Management  tech4usall | 04/30/09
Shame on you Tom Steinert-Threlkeld  cliff101 | 04/30/09
Shamne on you ....  DV3 | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  erehwon23 | 04/30/09
Printing articles like this, gives them the Idea.  pcguy777 | 04/30/09
Impossible  pcguy777 | 04/30/09
Federal taxes originate in Congress.  B.O.F.H. | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  SaipanMan95 | 04/30/09
Oversight simple  Millystone | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  tgardley | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  pchts | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  colombos@... | 04/30/09
State Tax  Silent Observer | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  pamam | 04/30/09
LOL.....yeah, no ****.  Mr Something | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  avfontoura | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  jfender1@... | 04/30/09
Hear!!! Hear!!!  RoughWriter | 04/30/09
Message has been deleted.  stevej47 | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  hendrixm | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  m_ricardo | 04/30/09
Obama inherited a nightmare  Dr_Zinj | 04/30/09
Inflation: The only "fair" tax Obama will be implimenting.  JohnMcGrew@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  The Scummy One | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  pwn0tr0n | 04/30/09
obama and liberals: tax those making over $200k  hansonjb | 04/30/09
Tax the internet for people who make over $200K  cwallen19803@... | 04/30/09
Again, Please  ebiron | 04/30/09
Should have voted twice  cwallen19803@... | 04/30/09
What a stupid response this is,  ebiron | 04/30/09
Voted Twice???  RoughWriter | 04/30/09
Yes, us winers.  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  ecdarby | 04/30/09
Actually..  ebiron | 04/30/09
Constitutional issues  Dr. John | 04/30/09
you are sending a tangible mass..  On Site PC | 05/01/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  Fatbrain | 04/30/09
And blood. Tax that too.  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  mitch@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  BitSmacker | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  Steven J. Ackerman | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  bob3160_z | 04/30/09
Americans have memory like chicken - they easily forget  hifi@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  stn564@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  emenau | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  n2itr | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  kevsan | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  GodSponge | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  mejohnsn | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  anatoli47@... | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  paullkellysr | 04/30/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  atari8bit@... | 04/30/09
If it were that great an idea, someone would have tried it already!  supernova_GA | 04/30/09
Somebody do the math  On Site PC | 04/30/09
Just not realistic  desbarats81@... | 05/01/09
Are you kidding? Of course ...  dippleydokus | 05/01/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  JerryMerfeld | 05/01/09
Why don't you shut the f up?  Hans Schmidt | 05/01/09
We are already tax to much  larryhonn2000@... | 05/01/09
Your right, Jamaica would be a nice place to grow cocoa trees.  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
I sure hope not..  Hobyx | 05/01/09
You & the Other Idiots that Print Stuff Like this...  chriss@... | 05/01/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or the Tweet. Would You?  jack@... | 05/01/09
Internet Commerce Should be Taxed  Bob C User | 05/01/09
In Roman times...  JCitizen | 05/01/09
You might be a little nuts, but I like you.  WriterOfCode | 05/05/09
Spoken like yet another paranoid right wing geek  heldCaptiveByCats | 05/03/09
You're rambling here.  WriterOfCode | 05/04/09
Lowering taxes brings in more revenue: JFK, Reagan, Bush cuts proved it  Vladimir_Jabotinsky | 05/04/09
RE: Hey, Wired President. You Wouldn't Tax the Internet, the Cell Phone or  WriterOfCode | 05/04/09

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