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June 14th, 2009

Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:31 pm

Categories: General, Google, Microsoft, Search, Web Technology

Tags: Google Inc., Search Engine, Sergey Brin, Search, Marketing Research, Marketing, Larry Dignan

Does Google have Bing envy? Is the search giant running scared over Microsoft’s search marketing blitz?

The New York Post seems to think so. In a report the Post blares:

You’d think nothing would get under the skin of search giant Google.

But co-founder Sergey Brin is so rattled by the launch of Microsoft’s rival search engine that he has assembled a team of top engineers to work on urgent upgrades to his Web service, The Post has learned.

Brin’s mission: Find out how Bing’s algorithm differs from its own.

Is Brin really running scared? Probably not, but Google has always carried a bit of healthy paranoia. Bing is optimized around verticals such as shopping, travel and health. As noted last week, Bing works fine as a default search engine and I have no qualms recommending it to others.

What’s really going on? Google has commoditized search and now competitors are doing this “decision engine” spiel. Google’s big challenge right now is marketing. How does a company that has talked search since its inception push this decision engine thing?

The first hint that Google was pondering a repositioning was Brin’s Founder’s Letter to shareholders. Wolfram Alpha clearly got under Google’s skin with its mission to create something that understands what people are pondering. At the time, Brin said:

I think it will soon be possible to have a search engine that “understands” more of the queries and documents than we do today. Others claim to have accomplished this, and Google’s systems have more smarts behind the curtains than may be apparent from the outside, but the field as a whole is still shy of where I would have expected it to be.

And now Bing enters the picture. Bing also hopes to be a decision engine with a “deep understanding” of how folks use the Web.

Now Google has to position itself as an understanding engine. In many respects, Google is already there but with shiny new search objects launching all the time the search giant is going to have to nail its messaging.

More reading:

  • Schmidt: Bing Has Not Changed What Google Is Doing
  • My Bing experiment: Can it be the default search engine?
  • Bartz: Bing isn’t all that (and neither is a Microsoft search deal)
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    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing
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    New York Post? Are you serious?  MisterMiester | 06/14/09
    I agree. Microsoft is running scared from everything and everyone.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/15/09
    Right. Whatever you say.  GuidingLight | 06/15/09
    You Serious?  dplant@... | 06/15/09
    totally agree....  animageofmine1 | 06/15/09
    I have had no problems!?  don_pederson@... | 06/16/09
    Not problems? Not even a single tiny one?  InAction Man | 06/16/09
    It's not about their products. It's about the company.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/16/09
    Severely Naive View  andrej770 | 07/08/09
    Brain Dead.  Cayble | 06/19/09
    Google is scared of bing...  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    Google is so scared they're planning the next EC lawsuit they can launch...  transposeIT | 06/15/09
    ZDNet: By the clueless for the clueless  schmandel@... | 06/15/09
    Umm does it say anywhere  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/15/09
    NY Post Business section is actually really good  SBArbeit | 06/15/09
    When Bing bombs...  eposter | 06/14/09
    Haha...  TylerM89 | 06/15/09
    Uh, it takes people to actually USE Bing to quit it. And they ain't usin'.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/15/09
    all things Bing equal  mark16_15@... | 06/15/09
    When you say something, it doesn't make it true.  Cayble | 06/19/09
    lol..yeah  animageofmine1 | 06/15/09
    Crash like Vista?  daMan25 | 06/15/09
    After the last round of auto-updates  Mahegan | 06/15/09
    Yeah right happy  cyberbull | 06/15/09
    Bing is good.  BigTipper | 06/15/09
    I like Bing too  TruckerTomPodcast | 06/15/09
    BING BONG!!  phoenixcomm | 06/15/09
    New brand has lotta new technical features too happy  animageofmine1 | 06/15/09
    Keep thinking that MS is the evil empire  gigabot71 | 06/15/09
    Pay no attention to facts  comp_indiana | 06/16/09
    If OSX or Linux is a flop what then????  Cayble | 06/19/09
    It looked like Google has bombed  GuidingLight | 06/15/09
    Your 'Joke' fails.  dreslough | 06/16/09
    Havent ever seen a Vista crash, not in almost 2 years and Bing is fantastic  Cayble | 06/19/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  BIGELLOW | 06/15/09
    Well said!  JBLarcomb | 06/15/09
    Lol, yeh it is almost as tired as "This is  AboveAverageJoe | 06/15/09
    Speaking about Wolfram  jongunn@... | 06/16/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  merchant01 | 06/15/09
    Wow.....  daMan25 | 06/15/09
    Facts  tmsbrdrs | 06/15/09
    Yahoo did advertise  LiquidLearner | 06/15/09
    No, "I'm NOT feeling lucky and it has not proven to be my "Decision Engine  orangepeelpr | 06/15/09
    Wrong Focus  Bebedo | 06/15/09
    Why not  terjeb@... | 06/15/09
    Am I doing something wrong?  i8thecat | 06/15/09
    I just searched for "club" on Bing  GuidingLight | 06/15/09
    I hate Liars. NT  AboveAverageJoe | 06/15/09
    Google's fault  terjeb@... | 06/15/09
    Since you're a judge on "how smart"  LiquidLearner | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  Nomad08 | 06/15/09
    Not so much  wolf_z | 06/15/09
    Google is still #1 and Yahoo # 2 so why the FUD over Bing  Randalllind | 06/15/09
    Stay tuned... (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/15/09
    OMG ANOTHER SHOCKING DON RUPERT PREDICTION!!!!!  itanalyst2@... | 06/15/09
    Google is still #1 and Yahoo # 2 so why the FUD over Bing  Eddy-ICUR12 | 06/15/09
    I am sure Yahoo had that same attitude  GuidingLight | 06/15/09
    Bong! The dinosaur lays another addled egg  whisperycat | 06/15/09
    People will quit using Bing when they stop getting the gifts and novelty  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    Bing is the talk of the office here  GuidingLight | 06/15/09
    Agreed  Baer | 06/19/09
    Bing seems no better than SearchMe.  Bruizer | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  Loverock Davidson | 06/15/09
    Sergy???   Who's Sergy?  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    what service from google  benitodarder | 06/15/09
    A lot of them (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 06/15/09
    And you can not name a single one?  terjeb@... | 06/15/09
    I can, I choose not to (NT)  Loverock Davidson | 06/15/09
    Is this another  macadam | 06/15/09
    I strongly disagree!  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    As if he would know!  B.O.F.H. | 06/15/09
    Scared of Bing no....  storm14k | 06/15/09
    Dead on!  BigTipper | 06/15/09
    I agree with your overall point  LiquidLearner | 06/15/09
    You're Right...  BigTipper | 06/15/09
    And that was precisely my point  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/15/09
    Only time will tell...  jk_10 | 06/15/09
    That it is a rebranded engine ...  jongunn@... | 06/16/09
    Microsoft missed the internet and and now they've missed search  whisperycat | 06/15/09
    The best part!  LiquidLearner | 06/15/09
    "Ding" fries are done! Betting pool.  charlesurrea@... | 06/15/09
    I just Binged your name  davidr69 | 06/15/09
    ROTFLMAO!!!!!  i8thecat | 06/15/09
    Google 3, Bing 0  cynic8 | 06/15/09
    I can't find what I'm looking for with Bing  BooGah | 06/15/09
    Google is better for technical searches  LiquidLearner | 06/15/09
    FAIL on sweveral levels  CaptOska | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  vger_z | 06/15/09
    Why is Bing afraid of Google?  jasonp@... | 06/15/09
    'Binging' Linux  Tynach | 06/15/09
    Master Joe Says...  MasterJoe | 06/15/09
    A genius of the highest "caliper"  comp_indiana | 06/15/09
    Joe is just being himself!  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    Master Joe Says...Again  MasterJoe | 06/15/09
    Impossible!  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    On That Happy Note...  MasterJoe | 06/16/09
    Master Joe Says...Again  MasterJoe | 06/15/09
    RE: Bing-Flop-Bing-Flop - google will rock you.  Bradd_young@... | 06/15/09
    Remember Netscape?  cyberbull | 06/15/09
    That has got nothing to do with marketing.  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    duh!  cyberbull | 06/15/09
    how did MS get it's 'monopoly'? By superior product development, or ...  qtrback | 06/15/09
    DOS wasn't the innovation. Stealing it and lying to IBM were.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/16/09
    Uh, it was the MONOPOLY, not the Marketing...  comp_indiana | 06/15/09
    Windoze Update alone could (will?) take bing to number one  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    Conficker thanks you  dotwhynot | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  mleeney | 06/15/09
    Is ZDNET desperate for ad revenue/hits?  aristotle_z | 06/15/09
    I guess they are!  InAction Man | 06/15/09
    Obviously, but ZDnet is a tabloid for geeks  comp_indiana | 06/16/09
    Bing? Google is laughing at it.  comp_indiana | 06/15/09
    A Little Competition Will Drive Innovation  NJSteveK | 06/15/09
    Why is the title of this article blatantly misleading?  whisperycat | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  customercare@... | 06/15/09
    Google missed more than that.  jk_10 | 06/15/09
    "Bing" may not be all that, but it's 100 times better than Live Search  maxvernon | 06/15/09
    The concept behind a "decision engine" is flawed.  Breetai | 06/15/09
    So, what precisely is a decision engine?  zkiwi | 06/15/09
    I've been asking the same thing....  storm14k | 06/15/09
    I haven't decided  nucrash | 06/15/09
    My investigative skills lead me to conclude the following  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/15/09
    Hmmm...  zkiwi | 06/17/09
    A true "decision engine" will only work when it's personalized  mheartwood | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  Eddy-ICUR12 | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  samibarka@... | 06/15/09
    Another thing Google missed  Mahegan | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  wgonzalez@... | 06/15/09
    Google Wave  mitchd1234 | 06/15/09
    as usual ZDNet....  maguilar2k | 06/15/09
    It is all important stuff.  Thomas Rippley | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  Romano4444 | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  ckeledjian | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  dkapa77 | 06/15/09
    You can't kill Google  GarettO | 06/15/09
    ...but you can cut off both legs.  BigTipper | 06/15/09
    BigTipper - Yet another rabid Microsoftie that can't face the truth.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/17/09
    Sorry Bing, I've already got a wife  jeverettk | 06/15/09
    Already switched back to Google  WiredGuy | 06/15/09
    Bing works better for me  tech_walker | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  wcminor | 06/15/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  ejewell@... | 06/15/09
    It's not that they're on the Google bandwagon.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/17/09
    RE: Google scared "NOT"  xtrmgamr | 06/15/09
    Aye Carumba!  BigTipper | 06/15/09
    Google doesn't even need to worry.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 06/17/09
    LOL. Freetards are again complaining about an MS product they never use...  transposeIT | 06/16/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  jnawrocki | 06/16/09
    Fix the damn search engine  Kaiwai | 06/16/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  lordshipmayhem | 06/16/09
    Oh great....  Narg | 06/16/09
    I tried both, result: I will stick with google  mariordzmej@... | 06/16/09
    Goodbye ZD Net  dreslough | 06/16/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  gennx30 | 06/16/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  kiazhi@... | 06/17/09
    Web Search  vahnx | 06/17/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  rakebackkid | 06/17/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  cneimeis | 06/17/09
    A little early to be jumping to conclusions  e_caroline@... | 06/17/09
    Actually it is good  Baer | 06/19/09
    Speak for yourself  Baer | 06/19/09
    A Simple Comparison  e_caroline@... | 06/19/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  xavier.alex@... | 06/25/09
    RE: Google missed a marketing turn with the 'decision engine' thing  hwr | 11/07/09

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