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October 21st, 2005

XML co-inventor Bray responds to patent assault

Posted by David Berlind @ 12:52 pm

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After seeing the news this morning about how the CEO of Scientigo has plans to extract royalties from those who have implemented the XML specification including Microsoft, Oracle, and Amazon (actually, he could probably sue everybody), I asked the man credited with co-inventing XML — Sun’s Tim Bray — what he thought of the news.  Wrote Bray:

The notion that an application filed in January 1997 can cover a technology whose first public draft was in November 1996, and which was based on a then-ten-year-old ISO standard, seems ridiculous on the face of it.  So one assumes that they’re not trying to put a tollboth on XML itself, it must be some particular B2B application of it or some such.  There are no specifics of what they’re claiming on their Web site

The then-ten-year-old ISO standard to which Bray is referring is SGML.   According to Bray, XML "is just (SGML - 80%) + URIs for external references + Unicode." Given that Scientigo CEO Doyal Bryant specifically mentioned Amazon as a potential target for royalty extraction, Bray could be right about the  e-commerce angle.  To the extent that vendors like Oracle and Microsoft have platforms that may facilitate potentially infringing e-commerce applications, they could be targets too.

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Hukd Ahn Foniks Wirked Fer Mi...
Nah. That would be the word "scow" which is descriptive of a class of slow boats as in "Ach, Captain, he called the Enterprise a garbage scow!"

Probably, obeying the rules of English phonics, ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: horusfalcon Posted on: 10/24/05 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
The big companies are going to SCO them...  el1jones | 10/21/05
Pronunciation  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/05
Hukd Ahn Foniks Wirked Fer Mi...  horusfalcon | 10/24/05
If XML itself is not the problem, what is?  balsover | 10/21/05
I just looked  tima_z | 10/21/05
What's important  IT_User | 10/21/05
The wording of the claims  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/21/05
I only saw the title of the patent on their web page  balsover | 10/21/05
This looks interesting...  balsover | 10/21/05
Down With Scientigo  Brakk Stein | 10/22/05

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