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August 21st, 2009

Should Apple make its own TV?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:07 am

Categories: Apple, Entertainment, General, Personal Technology

Tags: Apple Inc., TVs, Tv & Home Theater, Personal Technology, Home Entertainment, Larry Dignan

There’s a good amount of buzz about a Piper Jaffray report handicapping a possible move by Apple to reinvigorate its Apple TV lineup and even enter the living room with a television set. Should Apple make its own TV?

The possibilities, outlined here by Sam Diaz, boil down to the following:

  • Piper Jaffray analyst Gene Munster argues that Apple will launch a new Apple TV product with support for subscription iTunes services and digital video recording (DVR).
  • This digital living room takeover revolves around iTunes, which will connect your TV with the iPod and iPhone.
  • In the long run, Apple will manufacture a TV set that’s connected.

Thus far, Apple TV hasn’t been a runaway hit, but a retooling could work. The bigger issue is that your living room already has too many set-top boxes. That’s not going to change. And for a subscription iTunes service to work, Apple would have to cut carriage deals with a bevy of media players who are a suspicious bunch. We’ll also table the fact that Apple chief Steve Jobs has talked down subscription services at every turn.

The most intriguing idea here is Apple making a connected TV. Would enough consumers pay a premium for an Apple television set?

Munster argues:

Yes, TV hardware is a challenging business if you don’t change the rules of the game, but we see potential for Apple to offer best-in-class software and hardware and charge a premium. As of November 2008, 40 million US homes (35% of households) owned an HDTV, and the Leichtman Research Group estimates the number will double in the next four years. This equates to a US addressable market of 10 million units a year. The argument that Apple will not enter the television market because prices have declined by ~70% in the past three years is a similar argument used to conclude Apple would not enter the cell phone market, given phones had seen similar price declines. The bottom line, 10 million HDTV’s sold in the US a year is a real market, and if history repeats itself, Apple will find a way to compete in a commoditized market with a premium priced product.

It’s a solid argument, but color me skeptical. Apply the science behind Apple’s innovation. Would you make a TV?

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but only if there is also a moratorium on all trolls, shills and zealots.

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No!  eqpc | 08/21/09
yes!  Linux Geek | 08/21/09
As far as "smart" TV's  kaninelupus | 08/21/09
They already have...  arminw | 08/21/09
Yes Yes Yes  GetReal-mac.com | 08/24/09
So what?  GuidingLight | 08/21/09
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gosh!  nessrapp | 08/21/09
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@nothingness: But he's an adequate geek!  tikigawd | 08/21/09
@nothingness...  owner@... | 08/21/09
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IMHO  oncall | 08/21/09
IMHO  owner@... | 08/21/09
Thats what Apple is good at  bobiroc | 08/21/09
YYou mean; "Any computer 'limping' with itunes!  ccutright | 08/22/09
on truth  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
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don't count out the apple fanatics  Yax_to_the_Max | 08/21/09
Why apple when its out and better  Fletchguy | 08/21/09
Not Exactly  YaBaby | 08/25/09
re: no  owner@... | 08/21/09
Yes  bobiroc | 08/21/09
Apple or not  Michael Kelly | 08/21/09
50" iMac with TV tuner?  RocketEater | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  Lorax | 08/21/09
Heretic!  RocketEater | 08/21/09
I concur  peter.bittle@... | 08/21/09
Agree with lack of good content  oncall | 08/21/09
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Finally...  tahoe_guide@... | 08/21/09
Why not  oncall | 08/21/09
Can't we put a moratorium on discussing fantasy Apple products?  fawlty70 | 08/21/09
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Just get a Vizio  fawlty70 | 08/21/09
2009  AplKulAid | 08/21/09
Can't we take our own advice  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  Fraumann | 08/21/09
Main problem  stano360 | 08/21/09
U-Verse!  AplKulAid | 08/21/09
FYI U-Verse is powered by MediaRoom....  agent_bippy | 08/21/09
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re: My Biggest Worry  owner@... | 08/21/09
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Tangential Reply: Change the playing field  klaverd@... | 08/21/09
re: Tangential Reply: Change the playing field  owner@... | 08/21/09
Already been done  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
Re. Already been done  klaverd@... | 08/21/09
The problem with that is...  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
Need Tuner for Cable and Satellite  aj.redmond@... | 08/22/09
Re. Need tuner for Cable & Satellite  klaverd@... | 08/22/09
Won't help  DeusExMachina | 08/22/09
Other Reasons  aj.redmond@... | 08/24/09
With the cost of monitors...  JCitizen | 08/22/09
screens need to be dumb,  dilgreen@... | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  mwagner@... | 08/21/09
Maybe a set-top box  williamacole@... | 08/21/09
It could be me...  Yax_to_the_Max | 08/21/09
So long as they're not...  thx-1138_@... | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  cgarrett | 08/21/09
Cool idea and here's why  nate12680 | 08/21/09
Great apple can approve tv shows for me.  aktazdevil | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  combstwin | 08/21/09
Just another industry like cell phones  jscott418 | 08/21/09
Just buy Netflix!  jpdemers@... | 08/24/09
No thanks.  rynning | 08/21/09
Apple should buy Comcast  keaura | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  chrisall | 08/21/09
Who would care?  Spiritusindomit@... | 08/21/09
Not yet!  TJGodel | 08/21/09
No  mrcguy07 | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  becomann | 08/21/09
troll  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  vchlam@... | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  jambo86 | 08/21/09
Speak for yourself  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
And a Windows PC  bobiroc | 08/21/09
You make my point  DeusExMachina | 08/21/09
No MMS because of AT&T  bobiroc | 08/21/09
15" macbook?!? Nice.  DeusExMachina | 08/22/09
Sorry its a 13.3"  bobiroc | 08/22/09
The end of magic  DeusExMachina | 08/22/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  owner@... | 08/21/09
Apple tried the idea many years ago.  Arm A. Geddon | 08/21/09
In the future the world will be wireless.  godsfault | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  cbeck80@... | 08/21/09
if it also includes a Mac inside...  J Michael Ireland | 08/21/09
Only an Elgato TV stick sits outside  mattmuir | 08/21/09
Reality  trm1945 | 08/21/09
RE: Should Apple make its own TV?  Tanset | 08/21/09
Its never gonna happen!  robbiesaviour | 08/22/09
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TV with Internet connections are not new  fernande-zdnet | 08/24/09
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