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January 24th, 2006

Git yer preloaded iPods on eBay (but are they time bombs?)

Posted by David Berlind @ 6:10 pm

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Warning: This blog entry substitutes the acronym CRAP where the term DRM might normally have appeared. (read why).  By way of Slashdot comes an alert to Kevin Maney’s piece in USA Today about the legality of selling preloaded iPods.  Wrote Maney:

A 60-gigabyte video iPod loaded with 11,800 songs, with a starting bid of $799. The iPod alone would cost about $400. "I don’t see how it’s different than selling a used CD," seller Steve Brinn, a Cincinnati pediatrician, wrote in an e-mail to USA TODAY. "If the music industry asked me not to do it, I just wouldn’t do it." After USA TODAY asked eBay about the listing, eBay removed it. "That is a copyright violation, one that we don’t even need to hear from the rights owner about before removing," says eBay spokesman Hani Durzy.

But is it? Why is selling a pre-loaded iPod any different than selling a used CD? It could be.  It probably depends on the seller.  For example, nothing prevents an iTunes user that has purchased 11,000 songs (via the iTunes Music Store) from buying iPods, loading those 11,000 songs into those iPods and then selling them. If the songs are in MP3 format, well, then reselling them is probably a violation of copyright law (depending on whether each song’s artist or record label has explicitly allowed that). Before synching with a new iPod, iTunes doesn’t force you to return the previously loaded iPod to the "cradle" for de-authorization and bulk-erasure. Apple is pretty much forced into allow synching with multiple iPods because it has no way of knowing whether you’ve purchased a new one or not (maybe the old one was broken or lost).  But maybe now that a new so-called analog hole to Apple’s CRAP has been discovered, the company will figure out a way to update its CRAP.

More importantly, buyers of pre-loaded iPods should beware.  The way the Fairplay-based CRAP technology in Apple’s iPods and iTunes works, the retention of that music is tied to the digital identity of the owner (in iTunes’ parlance, this is known as an "account").  At the very minimum, if those songs are protected by Apple’s CRAP technology, then those songs are trapped in that iPod and can’t be played anywhere else (at least not without some special tools that circumvent the CRAP technology — a process which, according to the Digital Millenium Copyright Act anti-circumvention provisions, is illegal).  No matter how you look at it, buying pre-loaded iPods is a bad idea.  And you can thank Apple’s CRAP for that.

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Ipods preloaded.
well this falls in to the everything category... How can we sell
used cars, should gm, ford, and the rest get a cut... god knows
the government gets a cut on everything. You buy a new car (Read the rest)
Posted by: scarey Posted on: 02/07/06 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Negativland iPod has similar issues  tic swayback | 01/24/06
Why is selling a pre-loaded iPod any different than selling a used CD?  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Music is IP  jeffbart | 01/25/06
See My Post Bellow  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
The Section That Allwos You To Sell Your Copies  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Re: Music is IP  none none | 01/25/06
This Is Not Entirely True  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Interesting concept ...  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Right of first sale  tic swayback | 01/25/06
Section 109  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Really?  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Ah Yes  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Agreed  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Not True  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Not True?  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Until They Change The TOS Again  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
When they change the TOS ...  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Do The Math Again  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Also You Never Heard Of the 7 Inch 45 RPM?  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Really?  Jens T. | 01/25/06
Re: Why is selling a pre-loaded iPod any different than selling a used CD?  none none | 01/25/06
Same as selling YOUR computer  Roger Ramjet | 01/25/06
Apple's take on the subject, and further information  tic swayback | 01/25/06
Look at that- $11 for 1 song  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
But the principle is priceless  tic swayback | 01/25/06
I Smiled  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Good arguments, but irrelevant to what's happening here  tic swayback | 01/25/06
What was versus What David Proposes  Edward Meyers | 01/25/06
Ipods preloaded.  scarey | 02/07/06

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