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September 28th, 2009

Microsoft vs. Google: An e-mail showdown at L.A. City Hall

Posted by Sam Diaz @ 10:13 am

Categories: Cloud computing, Google, Government, Microsoft

Tags: Google Inc., Los Angeles, City, Microsoft Corp., E-mail, Online Communications, Sam Diaz

The city of Los Angeles has a decision to make. You see, the city’s old school e-mail system is pretty outdated and in need of a major overhaul. But like most other municipal governments, the budget for new tech systems is pretty tight these days. And so, city officials have been weighing the option of jumping on board with a cloud offering.

It’s a contract worth $7.25 million, according to a report in the Los Angeles Times. But, in the long-run, it’s worth so much more than that. Los Angeles is the second largest city in the U.S. and scoring a contract to overhaul and modernize the e-mail system could be a major score for either company.

For Microsoft, a win shows that Outlook and Exchange are still big players and worthy of an investment by one of the largest enterprise customers in the nation. (The city currently uses neither Microsoft nor Google for e-mail services.) For Google, it would be a major score for the cloud and could serve as a springboard to prove to other cities around the globe that Google’s e-mail cloud is, in fact, ready for prime time. Talking about Google, Los Angeles city councilman Bernard C. Parks tells the Times:

It would be a flagship contract that they can market to the rest of the country. When you buy it and they put on their masthead that you’re one of their customers, you find a trail of cities that say ‘I’ll follow suit.’

The contract is reportedly such a big deal that members of the council have been told that both Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer and Google CEO Eric Schmidt would be happy to come down to L.A. and visit with council members about their decisions.

The city seems to be leaning toward a Google offering but lobbyists have landed on the doors of City Hall to express concerns about security, confidential information and reliability, all important issues that have prompted city officials to (wisely) ask more questions.

Microsoft, of course, is pointing to recent Gmail outages as reasons to think twice about the cloud. Google, by contrast, is touting not only its presence in other large companies and municipalities but also the cost savings that come with taking the cloud route. And it also pointed to the government cloud it’s working on, as part of a federal technology initiative announced earlier this month.

The Times reports that the Google offering has cleared one council committee but needs the OK from a second one before going to a vote by the full City Council. No date for that vote has been set.

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What Microsoft would actually do...

... threaten the city with a machine-by-machine audit to look for warez and ...

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Posted by: Mihi Nomen Est Posted on: 10/28/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Contract worth $7.25 million? Google will probably do it for free, or  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
And Google gets all of LA's confidential information...  Confused by religion | 09/28/09
Technically  LiquidLearner | 09/28/09
Google provides very good support for paying users of gmail, and, LA will  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Cats Sleeping With Dogs, Tornadoes on the 405  DannyO_0x98 | 09/28/09
I agree on the open records  LiquidLearner | 09/28/09
WRONG!!!!!  Confused by religion | 09/28/09
And, the local servers are still connected to the internet, and face the  DonnieBoy | 09/29/09
Great - now you insult the workers  Confused by religion | 09/29/09
No, Google can ONLY use it to put context sensitive advertisement, and ONLY  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Uh, what law are you citing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/09
And, you do not know much. Google would be sued into oblivion if they  DonnieBoy | 09/29/09
Uh, what law are you citing?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/09
Well, you're certainly confused by something  IT_User | 09/28/09
You rather trust Microsoft with the information  Randalllind | 09/28/09
Interestingly enough...  914four | 10/28/09
And MS would gladly match that  Michael Kelly | 09/28/09
Yep, LA is in the drivers seat here. Hope that they put the squeeze on BOTH  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
What Microsoft would actually do...  Mihi Nomen Est | 10/28/09
Near Zero?  GuidingLight | 09/28/09
Well, since Google is not even near to a monopoly in email at the number 3  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Tough Choice  NeutralCorner | 09/28/09
False dichotomy. They can have both.  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Just to point out  LiquidLearner | 09/28/09
Very true! But, most types of anticompetitive behavior are not illegal when  DonnieBoy | 09/29/09
Sounds like the city is playing one against the other  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/09
And, next they will be doing it with desktop operating systems. Look for  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Absolutelly wrong  GuidingLight | 09/28/09
Actually, Ubuntu users are quite happy and will mostly stay with Ubuntu.  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
Why Chrome?  storm14k | 09/28/09
I would imagine that Windows costs cities like LA hundreds of millions a  DonnieBoy | 09/28/09
training costs?  Fark | 09/28/09
Workers are not that stupid. There is little difference between IE and  DonnieBoy | 09/29/09
Hundreds of millions?  LiquidLearner | 09/28/09
We are talking the cost of Windows, which is NOT part of the email  DonnieBoy | 09/29/09
Misunderstood perhaps  LiquidLearner | 09/29/09
... and would Chrome OS be free ...  kvkalidindi | 09/30/09
Never going to happen.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/09
Never say never  Earthling2 | 09/28/09
RE: Microsoft vs. Google: An e-mail showdown at L.A. City Hall  Gloster27 | 09/28/09
Windows crashes?  Fark | 09/28/09
I was going to point out the same...  LiquidLearner | 09/28/09
One wonders why then...  zkiwi | 09/28/09
Could you be more specific...  DevStar | 09/28/09
You don't do updates?  b12sklfck | 10/28/09
Have you tried XP?  IT_User | 09/28/09
It may not crash but is unstable  itguy08 | 10/28/09
Exchange crashes? Don't think so.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/28/09
Technically, maybe it's the servers that crash  IT_User | 09/28/09
If it's that critical  LiquidLearner | 09/29/09
Yes Exchange/Windows Server will crash  b12sklfck | 10/28/09
Hmmm... Los Angeles...  zkiwi | 09/28/09
And the winner is........  zenwalker | 09/28/09
US$ 7.25M is scraps for MS. Just give this one to the Beta king and wait...  transposeIT | 09/28/09
and wait...and wait...and wait...  IT_User | 09/29/09
Yeah, $7.25 is not that much  markbn | 10/27/09
Don't trust 'The Cloud'  nitecourt@... | 09/29/09
Go Google - F Microsoft  itguy08 | 10/28/09
Wheres your argument?  ICUR12 | 10/28/09
RE: Microsoft vs. Google: An e-mail showdown at L.A. City Hall  britneycougar | 10/28/09
RE: Microsoft vs. Google: An e-mail showdown at L.A. City Hall  ka0mow | 10/28/09
dunno about Google  ca1ic0cat | 10/28/09

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