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October 27th, 2009

Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative

Posted by Christopher Dawson @ 8:09 am

Categories: General, Linux, Ubuntu, Windows 7

Tags: Ubuntu, Linux, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows 7, Operating Systems, UNIX, Open Source, Software, Christopher Dawson

And I don’t just mean for geeks. I mean a real, viable alternative to Windows for many users despite the apparent quality of both Windows 7 and Server 2008.

About a year and a half ago, ZDNet’s Adrian Kingsley-Hughes asked, “Is Ubuntu becoming the generic Linux distro?” and concluded that “the evolution of Ubuntu into the generic Linux distro isn’t a bad thing”. Fair enough, but Canonical’s Mark Shuttleworth took this idea a bit farther during a press conference call yesterday:

“We’ve already done a lot of work in developer ecosystem and we’re now increasingly interested in the non-developer consumer ecosystem, so that’s what all the OEM work is about,” Shuttleworth said, declaring that his focus was on “making sure that Ubuntu gets pre-installed and Ubuntu is available from Dell.com and others and making sure that Ubuntu is the default alternative to Windows.”


He didn’t mention Apple, which, to many consumers, is the only alternative to Windows. For all its buzz in the tech world, Linux (or Ubuntu) is hardly a household word. Competing with Apple, though, which already has an impressive ecosystem of hardware and is the reigning king of usability, doesn’t make sense anyway and this ad from Novell would never fly outside of the tech community:

So how can I be so confident that Shuttleworth’s vision of becoming the “default alternative”, and not just the default Linux for those geeky enough to try it, will become a reality? Because he very clearly tied it to a vision of platform. If Ubuntu can work well on every device users encounter (including non-Intel smartbooks and other new classes of portable devices that will be emerging in the next couple of years, displacing notebooks for many consumers), then name recognition will follow.

Obviously, the PC space is dominated by Windows. Yet no matter how spiffy Windows 7 is (and even Shuttleworth acknowledged that it was a good OS, worthy of competing with Ubuntu), Vista taught us all a lesson (consumers and techies alike). There are alternatives to the latest and greatest from Microsoft, even if that’s Windows XP. We don’t have to upgrade.

This “PC space” is changing, though. Windows Mobile stinks. Microsoft has no plans to develop Windows on ARM platforms. The cloud is here, not because of the economy, but because of the value businesses perceive in it. Ubuntu is actively developing in all of these spaces and their latest, highly polished OS (available Thursday) shows off many of the technologies.

What forced Microsoft to crank out it’s best OS in years (some might say it’s best ever and certainly the most stable prior to a service pack or two)? Competition. Competition from Apple, certainly, but also a growing awareness of open source concepts in general. Many artists are releasing DRM-free music (and still making money). Books are widely and freely available. Content is everywhere, much of it for free. Something that you pay for, then, like Windows, better be a heck of a lot better than its free alternatives. Competition is our friend, whether we’re consumers, pro users, or CIOs.


Microsoft may very well continue to dominate the desktop PC space. However, a quick look around at the variety of ways people access online content and cloud-based resources suggests that the importance of the desktop PC as we know it is diminishing. Ubuntu is ready to capitalize on that in ways that the average consumer won’t recognize until he or she finds him or herself using Ubuntu on a MID, a netbook, a kiosk, a phone, a virtualized OS, or a smartbook. Can Apple, Microsoft, or any other Linux distributor say that? Competition might be our friend, but an ubiquitous platform is the friend of developers who can start creating the next generation of killer apps, easily ported to whatever screen we might be using.

Christopher Dawson

Chris Dawson writes ZDNet's Education IT blog. Follow Chris Dawson on Twitter! Christopher Dawson is the technology director for the Athol-Royalston School District in northern Massachusetts and a member of the Internet Press Guild. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations, but always keep in mind that the opinions expressed here are his own and not those of his daytime employer, even if he talks incessantly about his day job.

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Dreamweaver  NeoGraven | 10/27/09
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the best of both worlds G and K  sweetcorcoran | 11/20/09
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Chrome will overtake IE!  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/27/09
Try again. He specifically asked for "somebody to stupidly chime in..."  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
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@The Mentalist  ericesque | 10/27/09
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Just interested in friendly exchange. Nothing sinister.  ericesque | 10/27/09
I don't participate in that forum, never needed to.  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
What about the community, The Mentalist?  ericesque | 10/27/09
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Tried the forum and...  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
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Akami?  UAC nanny screen | 10/27/09
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flawed argument again  Aussie_linux_user | 10/27/09
windows updates hacked  pgit | 10/29/09
It's a huge pain for developers to work outside the repository system  connor33 | 10/28/09
Watch OSS advocates squeal like stuck pigs  MSFTWorshipper | 10/28/09
Who expects them to be?  Viva la crank dodo | 10/29/09
Right.. and that wouldn't be a security gap just WAITING to be exploited..  daftkey | 10/28/09
How odd.  aharper@... | 10/27/09
what does it take....  ismoore | 10/27/09
Nothing  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/09
Hilarious  akulkis | 10/27/09
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amen  pgit | 10/29/09
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Total BS  MadByte | 10/27/09
Oh but I do!  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/09
The classic rebuttal from a five year old (nt)  Economister | 10/27/09
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Who are you  Viva la crank dodo | 10/27/09
Yeah, I know but  prikkebeen | 10/27/09
Wha?  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/09
UHHM  prikkebeen | 10/27/09
obviously you are stuck in OSS days  Aussie_linux_user | 10/27/09
Hmmm . . .  sporkfighter | 10/28/09
You seem to have  anothercanuck | 10/27/09
why am I bothering to answer you.... ???  Aussie_linux_user | 10/27/09
Maybe its because the truth hurts...nt  transposeIT | 10/28/09
why do you breathe?  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 10/29/09
two videos with sound simultaneously  pgit | 10/29/09
He actually praised  Viva la crank dodo | 10/29/09
I agree  eMJayy | 10/27/09
Become a Linux evangelist  davidr69 | 10/27/09
what kind of company do you keep?  nothingness | 10/27/09
Reality  davidr69 | 10/27/09
They WERE popular ...  de-void | 10/27/09
PC's  1djk1 | 10/27/09
English 101: cause and effect  davidr69 | 10/27/09
And why do you think that the cost of PC's droppped like a stone?  de-void | 10/27/09
80386...  NetArch. | 10/27/09
@NetArch: Actually, the 386DX 33MHz *WAS* the top of the heap ...  de-void | 10/27/09
Yeah - the year threw me off  NetArch. | 10/28/09
Exaggeration? Have you looked at the real world lately?  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
Let's Be Logical Here....  Qix77 | 10/27/09
I agree....but its sad.  storm14k | 10/27/09
A firm grasp on the obvious.  Economister | 10/27/09
I can agree  prikkebeen | 10/27/09
Familiarity theory doesn't explain OS X  connor33 | 10/28/09
True  Viva la crank dodo | 10/28/09
People don't know "Windows"  solyom@... | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  Budster1 | 10/27/09
Did you mean?  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
SLAM!  ericesque | 10/27/09
Are you a bird?  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
not a bird.  ericesque | 10/27/09
It sounded like you were slamming something on a window...  The Mentalist | 10/27/09
wow. should have read my own comment...  ericesque | 10/27/09
I Love Linux but calling it an Alternative is false  Breetai | 10/27/09
Ubuntu and Novell  NetArch. | 10/27/09
Linux users watch commercials??  mswift@... | 10/28/09
I going to find out for myself . . .  pikeman666 | 10/27/09
Try a VM  crazydanr@... | 10/27/09
Running Linux in a Microsoft VM not the same  Ole Man | 10/27/09
He was talking about VMWare, not VirtualPC  brendan@... | 10/28/09
Dual booting quality is only surpassed by single booting Linux  Ole Man | 10/28/09
Thanks for reinforcing a stereotype  crazydanr@... | 10/28/09
Thank you for deciding and publicizing  Ole Man | 10/29/09
How did your Linux migration go?  ye | 10/27/09
I guess it didn't go very well - Yet another FAIL  Qbt | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  valpd | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  zeya_hane@... | 10/27/09
Give it up guys... Linux is dead...  Narg | 10/27/09
Sorry to say, but just because it isn't on every desktop  Roc Riz | 10/27/09
Just because...  Narg | 10/27/09
The New York Stock Exchange, the London Stock Exchange  akulkis | 10/27/09
Yes..wiindows powers more servers  akulkis | 10/27/09
Too stupid to be worthy of response. NT  Marty R. Milette | 10/28/09
Yes, you are too stupid  akulkis | 10/28/09
Bull$hit...  Marty R. Milette | 10/29/09
what about....  Aussie_linux_user | 10/27/09
Oh well, OK, if you say so........  Ole Man | 10/27/09
Truth hurts....doesn't it. nt  transposeIT | 10/28/09
No, no, you're getting it all wrong!  rikasa | 10/28/09
My experience  20kwfence | 10/27/09
Still terrible video support  walter2 | 10/27/09
Maybe I am missing something here  20kwfence | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  wanderson | 10/27/09
Hoping to return to the early 90's...  daftkey | 10/27/09
It is good until.....!!!  Nsaf | 10/27/09
More doubletalk than an Apple End User License  dcolbert@... | 10/27/09
You're missing the fine print, Christopher.  Steve Goldman | 10/27/09
Right. Sure. Uh-huh  akulkis | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  TheCaller | 10/27/09
Honestly, I wish there was an alternative to WIndows that was BETTER.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/09
Watch your mouth  Viva la crank dodo | 10/27/09
LD, it's Zed - send in the gimp  ~doolittle~ | 10/27/09
it is what it is...  ~doolittle~ | 10/27/09
Hard no. Pain in the backside yes.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/09
Careful what you wish for.. happy  daftkey | 10/27/09
Pipe Dream  tjatwood | 10/27/09
Difficult? Re-read your own post..  daftkey | 10/27/09
I just don't understand OS bashers on either side  ~doolittle~ | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  danm50 | 10/27/09
Linux needs consumer apps and vertical market apps for business...  sfcsllc | 10/27/09
True in some respects.. Not trying hard enough in others..  daftkey | 10/27/09
Mid size market  bobtran | 10/28/09
Thanks - what is it?  daftkey | 10/28/09
What version?  20kwfence | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  optihealth | 10/27/09
Change the name  hiraghm@... | 10/27/09
A rose by any other name...  ericesque | 10/27/09
Agreed, it smacks of western guilt  connor33 | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  NeoGraven | 10/27/09
Just curious, what do you ppl use your OS for?  epaval@... | 10/27/09
Good question!  20kwfence | 10/27/09
NOT the "price point"  Ole Man | 10/27/09
Are you serious?  epaval@... | 10/28/09
Sounds more like an issue with  rikasa | 10/28/09
Sure, but this affects me  epaval@... | 10/28/09
Fair enough  rikasa | 10/28/09
There never was a time, in the history of the world  Ole Man | 10/28/09
Ubuntu is good enough now for some users  gingoro | 10/27/09
I want to believe, but...  Toddichenko | 10/27/09
We don't need another Windows.  Clockwork Computer | 10/27/09
Ubuntu is NO alternative to WIndows  Lerianis10 | 10/27/09
windows mobile stinks?  EricP_KY | 10/27/09
Linux Live Cds are fine IF NTFS is supported!  chaz15 | 10/27/09
Has been for a long time  NetArch. | 10/27/09
this is not the fault of Linux developers blam MSFT  Aussie_linux_user | 10/27/09
Ubuntu user's POV  marksashton | 10/27/09
Your first mistake was:  tonymcs@... | 10/27/09
Installing new apps  NetArch. | 10/27/09
Just trolling  Ole Man | 10/27/09
Funny.. this didn't work for me..  daftkey | 10/28/09
Cherry picking, aren't we?  NetArch. | 10/28/09
Did you skip the last two paragraphs?..  daftkey | 10/29/09
Worthy of skipping  Ole Man | 10/29/09
Wha?  daftkey | 10/29/09
No, that's me and the little mouse  Ole Man | 10/29/09
@Ole-Man: What dirty language?  daftkey | 10/30/09
Sarcastic and problematic  Ole Man | 11/03/09
Yawn, once again his hobby is more important than students  tonymcs@... | 10/27/09
Android will break it open.  TripleII | 10/27/09
What about OSX?  connor33 | 10/28/09
Uh Huh!  joe6pack_z | 10/27/09
An interesting read. The people are what counts.  TripleII | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  jiagebusen | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  willenergy@... | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  DStovall | 10/27/09
Join the Linux migration  apexwebmaster | 10/27/09
LINUX fans, answer my question!  heinziten@... | 10/27/09
Which mystery programs are these?  zkiwi | 10/27/09
He's trolling...  NetArch. | 10/28/09
Two problems with your argument...  daftkey | 10/28/09
Am I understanding you right?  heinziten@... | 10/28/09
Mounting...  daftkey | 10/29/09
Yes, Ubuntu can become a viable Windows alternative  billfranke@... | 10/27/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  tech_walker | 10/27/09
Insults will not promote the use of LINUX  heinziten@... | 10/27/09
You're an Electronics Engineer?  NetArch. | 10/28/09
I think "windows user mentality" forces people to download .exe's...  ~doolittle~ | 10/28/09
What is a repository?  heinziten@... | 10/29/09
Let me explain  heinziten@... | 10/28/09
Sorry to hear about your experience.  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/28/09
Thank you!!  heinziten@... | 10/29/09
Porting proprietary software to Linux is a pain  connor33 | 10/28/09
Gartner predicts Linux to be on 7.5% of desktops and will unseat Apple  connor33 | 10/28/09
The Linux proganda war has failed a long time ago...  transposeIT | 10/28/09
Ubuntu is THE Windows alternative  SKulkarni1 | 10/28/09
Why have just one OS on your computer?  mlindl | 10/28/09
Why have more than one?  N_M | 10/28/09
ubuntu is ugly  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 10/28/09
Ask and ye shall receive...  NetArch. | 10/28/09
Anyone who doesn't know how  Ole Man | 10/28/09
Attitude keeps users away  dpatjhh | 10/29/09
The underdog will never be the big dog  Ole Man | 10/29/09
I agree  dpatjhh | 10/29/09
Yes, Ubuntu can be.  root12 | 10/28/09
Computing on your own terms, not someone elses  NetArch. | 10/28/09
Ubuntu?  Vokar | 10/28/09
It will eat a piece of Apple pie, too.  Earthling2 | 10/28/09
Tech reporters should report not sell for companies  Randalllind | 10/28/09
I just have one question ... well two ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
He did a story about Windows 7 and his son  Randalllind | 10/28/09
Oobooboo doesn't even have close to 1% desktop share  Qbt | 10/28/09
Nope!  NetArch. | 10/28/09
"They are the ideal target market"  Qbt | 10/28/09
Just as long as they get good instructions  brendan@... | 10/28/09
re ... 1% desktop share  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
Haven't had to "clean" Windows in years now.  Qbt | 10/28/09
re:Haven't had to "clean" Windows in years now.  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
You conveniently ignored the question  Qbt | 10/28/09
re:You conveniently ignored the question  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
LOL, I'm not doing ANY of those. So you failed to disprove my point.  Qbt | 10/28/09
BTW, that is a pretty weak list of things you need to "maintain" on Windows  Qbt | 10/28/09
A loser OS?  prikkebeen | 10/28/09
Apparently you like being wrong a lot  Qbt | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  DoverNH | 10/28/09
For people wanting to try Ubuntu: choose Linux MINT  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/28/09
Former Microsoft Employee:  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
Oh spare us...  Qbt | 10/28/09
YOU will be ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
LOL, I guess you ran out of real arguments  Qbt | 10/28/09
You want to argue? Find someone else ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
Actually, this disgruntled employee was quite reasonable..  daftkey | 10/28/09
He was ... up to a point  de-void | 10/28/09
Not to mention...  epaval@... | 10/29/09
That wasn't he money quote..  daftkey | 10/28/09
Vision isn't gonna cut it.  CobraA1 | 10/28/09
re:Vision isn't gonna cut it.  n0neXn0ne | 10/28/09
Progress  CobraA1 | 10/28/09
Yes, Win32 is a hair ball, but, Google only has to provide an easy way for  DonnieBoy | 10/28/09
Yes let us know how that works out for you...  Qbt | 10/28/09
Better for who?  de-void | 10/29/09
RE: Better for who?  asusmx | 10/30/09
I wonder . . .  CobraA1 | 10/28/09
NO WAY  pacman7777 | 10/28/09
Well, didn't you hear - Linux is ON FIRE!!!  Qbt | 10/28/09
ROFL! Linux fans celebrate breaking 1% barrier... oops, slipped!  dominigan | 10/29/09
Not to mention . . .  CobraA1 | 10/29/09
Not bad really  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
I am curious, what is a "level playing field"?  Qbt | 10/29/09
Why isn't $huttleworth funding an ad campaign?  de-void | 10/29/09
Don't those failings of the Linux community speak volumes ...  de-void | 10/29/09
What's up with the lack of Linux marketing, anyways?  CobraA1 | 10/29/09
No no no  CobraA1 | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  Ardvark77 | 10/28/09
Huh?  prikkebeen | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  david@... | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  tech_ed@... | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  Gyula Bognar, Jr. | 10/28/09
Can I run...  GrizzledGeezer | 10/28/09
People don't use the OS they use applications  charmed_quark | 10/29/09
If you are not highly skilled...  bjbrock | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  hwaynew | 10/28/09
So are you comparing...  bjbrock | 10/28/09
Hmm  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
This is pretty bad...  joepranay | 10/28/09
It is free actually  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
Some where over the rainbow........  Ole Man | 10/29/09
3 Generations Happy  darkonc | 10/28/09
Irritating UPS drop down advertisement!!!!  CounterEthicsCommissioner | 10/28/09
After 12 years of disappointment and Win 7, I gave up un Linux.  Duke E. Love | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  jim.burns@... | 10/28/09
operative word "can"  cymru999 | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  barry@... | 10/28/09
No, it can't.  fondy | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  dsmith211 | 10/28/09
Don't forget applications...  asusmx | 10/28/09
Don't forget applications  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
Don't forget applications  asusmx | 10/29/09
Relax guy, it's just another OS  ITSamurai | 10/28/09
not yet it can't  paladin2 | 10/28/09
I'd say the closest that you will come to is...  pdickey43@... | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  fletchoid | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  reikioz | 10/28/09
Linux Bigots!  vmeck@... | 10/28/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  dcsalling | 10/28/09
Hardly 'NEWS', is it? SITFO.org blog June 2008  David Gale | 10/29/09
not for me...long live mandriva!!!  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  danielb34@... | 10/29/09
Re. Printer drivers...try # 2  danielb34@... | 10/29/09
You see, there's two buttons on this hear four-uhm...  daftkey | 10/29/09
loverock baning iniciative  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 10/29/09
Why? Aren't you mature enough to ignore people you don't like yet?  daftkey | 10/29/09
If the shoe was on the other foot...  UAC nanny screen | 10/29/09
You mean..  daftkey | 10/29/09
Well you don't seem to be doing a good job  UAC nanny screen | 10/30/09
amusing  piperdown | 11/03/09
NO! -- Not ready for prime time.  carlos.antenna@... | 10/29/09
Linux Users the Eternal Optimists  Adam0310 | 10/29/09
Majority  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  znetlol | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  znetlol | 10/29/09
You got lucky!!!  danielb34@... | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  AndyPagin | 10/29/09
some missed the point  brokenspokes | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  randys@... | 10/29/09
Not quite yet  breirden@... | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  rmacleod@... | 10/29/09
It is an alternative, there have been alternatives along  Boot_Agnostic | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  whitetr6 | 10/29/09
Rebuttal to FUD will never go away  Ole Man | 10/29/09
They Said It Ten Years Ago  ssmela | 10/29/09
They said it ten years ago!  electroman76 | 10/29/09
"I am soo sick"  Ole Man | 10/29/09
Uuuugh, those "marketing skills"  Ole Man | 10/29/09
What about fonts?  Vesicant | 10/29/09
And mopeds can absolutely be the default automobile alternative  Duke E. Love | 10/29/09
But Seriously...  jpr75_z | 10/29/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  lambstudio | 10/29/09
Yes Mandrake, Fedora, OpenSuse, OS8 can be  Boot_Agnostic | 10/30/09
I see a time  Altotus | 10/30/09
Apple knows what they are doing.  Raid6 | 10/31/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  Diane84 | 10/31/09
RE: Yes, Ubuntu can absolutely be the default Windows alternative  photomstr@... | 11/01/09
10 reasons Ubuntu 9.10 will be a game changer for business  Ole Man | 11/03/09
Great stuff, but--how could you, Christopher?  LeonBA | 11/06/09
NOPE...Can't be....  Nsaf | 11/09/09
average users are easy  tmsbrdrs | 11/09/09
Thank you...  Nsaf | 11/12/09
linux is not the default alternative.  runawaybranny | 11/16/09
Complete nonesense!  Ole Man | 11/16/09

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