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November 9th, 2009

Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market; DOJ seems to agree

Posted by Sam Diaz @ 2:42 pm

Categories: DOJ, EU, Government, Open Source, Oracle, Sun

Tags: Oracle Corp., Sun Microsystems Inc., Mergers & Acquisitions, Open Source, Databases, Investment, Finance, Enterprise Software, Software, Data Management

updated: Oracle Corp. schooled the European Commission today on some basic knowledge about open-source technology, lashing out in a statement that the regulatory agency that’s currently holding up Oracle’s acquisition of Sun has revealed its “profound misunderstanding of both database competition and open source dynamics.”

Separately, the U.S. Department of Justice released its own statement, essentially backing Oracle and explaining its reasons for giving the go-ahead for the acquisition and why it felt the deal was not anti-competitive.

The European Commission has expressed concerns over MySQL, delaying the acquisition from moving forward, filing a Statement of Objections today. In a statement responding to the Commission’s filing, Oracle wrote:

Oracle’s acquisition of Sun is essential for competition in the high end server market, for revitalizing Sparc and Solaris and for strengthening the Java development platform. The transaction does not threaten to reduce competition in the slightest, including in the database market. The Commission’s Statement of Objections reveals a profound misunderstanding of both database competition and open source dynamics. It is well understood by those knowledgeable about open source software that because MySQL is open source, it cannot be controlled by anyone. That is the whole point of open source.

The company argued that “the database market is intensely competitive,” with eight strong players and specifically names IBM, Microsoft and Sybase as open source vendors. As for MySQL competing with Oracle products, the company said they are very difference and that there is “no basis in European law for objecting to a merger of two among eight firms selling differentiated products.” In its own statement, the U.S. Department of Justice seemed to agree. It wrote:

The Division concluded, based on the specific facts at issue in the transaction, that consumer harm is unlikely because customers would continue to have choices from a variety of well established and widely accepted database products. The Department also concluded that there is a large community of developers and users of Sun’s open source database with significant expertise in maintaining and improving the software, and who could support a derivative version of it

Sun, which was already a financially-troubled company when Oracle made its acquisition bid, recently laid off 3,000 employees as part of a restructuring plans that stems from delays in regulatory approval. Oracle CEO Larry Ellison recently said that delays are costing about $100 million per month.

Oracle noted that Sun’s customers “universally support this merger and do not benefit from the continued uncertainty and delay.” The company said evidence against the Commission’s position is overwhelming. and that it lacks any credible theory or evidence of competitive harm.

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Major Damage Control
Yike ! 100M per month

I'm guessing this can't keepup much longer.

Time to fix the hemoraging stat before any
merger money starts flowing.

Otherwise they'll just make the hole b... (Read the rest)
Posted by: 337 Posted on: 11/11/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Seems to me the EC is interested in protecting Open Source...  ye | 11/09/09
Perhaps there is a good financial reason  PublicComments | 11/10/09
The EC isn't interested in protecting...  PollyProteus | 11/10/09
Open Source is choice and ...  jimb01 | 11/10/09
Oracle, just spin off MySQL. Problem solved.  WiredGuy | 11/10/09
IMHO  incidental reader | 11/10/09
The EU is assuming the same thing  WiredGuy | 11/11/09
What choice?  Wintel BSOD | 11/10/09
The flipside of that argument I presume is that  Economister | 11/09/09
I would think they're paying for it.  ye | 11/09/09
If its already open source how do you give it up?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/09/09
That response was about as lame as it gets.  ye | 11/09/09
I believe you meant rebuttAL  Economister | 11/09/09
That the best you got? Pointing out spelling errors?  ye | 11/09/09
rebuttal rebuttle  redking44 | 11/10/09
Exactly  rdupuy11 | 11/10/09
Except for...  zkiwi | 11/10/09
The EC has been infiltrated by M$ agents  Linux Geek | 11/09/09
Just another..  Ceridan | 11/10/09
LOL - very good love that movie - LOL - nt  USTechHead | 11/10/09
Absolutely NOTHING changes with MySQL owned by Oracle.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/09/09
The joke is on the EU  connor33 | 11/09/09
Maybe but right or wrong they are sovereign  Quebec-french | 11/10/09
Clueless indeed  johnfenjackson@... | 11/10/09
PROTECT OPEN SOURCE!!!  brutallyfrank | 11/10/09
1  magallanes | 11/10/09
From somebody who clearly understands......  Economister | 11/10/09
Fantastic  Bozzer | 11/10/09
Oversimplification  themacolyte | 11/10/09
This whole ruckus started....  Economister | 11/10/09
well said  stanleyconstantine | 11/10/09
It would appear that the EC/EU has A LOT of misunderstandings...nt  USTechHead | 11/10/09
I wonder...  rapson | 11/10/09
open source databases  mnion@... | 11/10/09
The article said "open source vendors".  ye | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  sw-mobboy | 11/10/09
Error in Oracle's logic.  rdupuy11 | 11/10/09
Thank you.....  Economister | 11/10/09
Oracle not a likely friend to MySQL  ewyatt | 11/10/09
all missing the point  VinceGlorthos | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  brucewilliams0@... | 11/10/09
not really  nanotm | 11/10/09
Ellison has "profound misunderstanding" of ethics  Professor8 | 11/10/09
Oracle acquiring Sun may endanger Java  mkaz@... | 11/10/09
Like MySQK...Java is open source  storm14k | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  psychographer | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  waltrutka@... | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  michaelmiles | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  brucewilliams0@... | 11/10/09
This is bigger than MySQL  jorjitop | 11/10/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  brucewilliams0@... | 11/10/09
Never trust Oracle ...  AZEducator | 11/10/09
Never trust Oracle ...  AZEducator | 11/10/09
Never trust the EC...They are only for the billions in fines....  transposeIT | 11/11/09
No fines involved in this case.  WiredGuy | 11/11/09
RE: Oracle: EC has 'profound misunderstanding' of database market  lschw1 | 11/11/09
Major Damage Control  337 | 11/11/09

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