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November 16th, 2009

Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264 percent

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 11:23 am

Categories: Acer, Dell, General, Hardware Infrastructure, Hewlett-Packard, Personal Technology, netbooks

Tags: Sales, Netbook, NPD, Netbooks, Nettops & MIDs, Hardware, Larry Dignan

Can the best-selling category of the PC market really be just a fad? A junky joke? A stunt to prop up the PC market created by Intel?

Jason Hiner at TechRepublic seems to think so. He proclaims:

Netbooks — those underpowered mini laptops with 7-inch screens and unusable little keyboards — are a dying fad. However, the legacy of the netbook will be that inexpensive notebook computers are here to stay, and they are lighter and thinner than ever.

Analysts and pundits will continue to use the term “netbook” but I’m going to argue that the device that we originally called the netbook is being phased out — and thankfully so.

I have a netbook. It’s small—9 inches—and it now belongs to my daughter. My hands are too big. The screen is too cramped. And I’m inclined to think that Jason’s right. The netbook is just a passing fancy.

And then I follow the numbers. Look at all the people buying  netbooks. NPD’s DisplaySearch reckons that netbook sales surged 264 percent in the second quarter from a year ago. Revenue for the overall notebook market declined. Here’s the scorecard.

Meanwhile, check out Jason’s talkbacks. It’s a love affair—and they all couldn’t be sent by the netbook fan club.

The special thing about it that makes me happy is that it’s small and so handy. I don’t need to play games or do lots of complicated things on the street. But this one is just 100% what I need and I will never give it up.

And.

I bought a Dell Mini 9 in 2008 and have never regretted it. It’s small enough to carry in my purse, boots up quick, and maybe it’s because I have small fingers, but the size of the keyboard has never been an issue.

That said, it is not my main PC, nor would I ever try to make it such. I bought it to browse the internet and do some light word processing - the heaviest lifting I have ever asked it to do is stream movies across my wireless home network - and it has always performed flawlessly.

And.

I bought mine due to travel restrictions imposed by the airlines on a trip to Australia in 2008 and love it. I use a regular laptop/notebook as my main computer at home but it is too big and heavy to travel with. The Netbook allows me to use almost all my programs, some engineering, spreadsheets, topographic maps and GPS routings. I even use it at home with my wireless network, sometimes in bed at night while reading books on exploring Utah so I can see the topographic maps and the satellite pictures of the area. No it doesn’t replace the desktop notebook but darn near.

Are these people bonkers? Nope. Intel’s financial results—partially fueled by the Atom chip that powers these little devices—tell the tale.

Also see: All netbook reviews

Netbooks aren’t for me, but apparently there are a ton of allegedly confused consumers still buying them. Dell and Microsoft have downplayed the netbook to some degree, but what else are they going to do? After all, the netbook is a margin killer.

So what’s the future of the netbook? It’s way too predictable to envision lightweight notebooks replacing the netbooks. Netbook 2.0, 3.0 and 4.0 are likely to have different form factors. Perhaps the Droid and the iPhone are really your netbooks. Perhaps Apple redefines the netbook category with a tablet. Perhaps people keep buying the current versions of netbooks. Netbooks will hang around and probably thrive because people like second and third computing devices. The form factor may change, but the market niche isn’t going anywhere.

More: Study claims netbook users dissatisfied with Windows 7. Are you?

Larry DignanLarry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and Editorial Director of ZDNet sister site TechRepublic. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Their problem is two fold
The problem will
continue up the chain to normal laptops and
desktops and prices for all hardware continues
to drop.


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The only R&D in that whole sector is done by  Economister | 11/16/09
And AMD, and Via, and all the ARM licensees.  de-void | 11/17/09
You may be right , but  Economister | 11/19/09
revenue??  gabriel bear | 11/19/09
Why waste ever thinning magins on Windows when Linux is free?  T1Oracle | 11/16/09
That is the problem for Microsoft! If not for Linux, they could kill this  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Agree, and...  Economister | 11/16/09
Just playing devil's advocate here  Michael Kelly | 11/16/09
Well, an x86 emulator with Win7 on an Arm Netbook would be a real TOAD!  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Nice to see you post more sensibly wink  de-void | 11/17/09
"Hyper-competitive company"?  UAC nanny screen | 11/20/09
I agree...  Economister | 11/16/09
Same thing could have been said of IBM...  cosuna | 11/17/09
the masses  elllroy | 11/16/09
???  eMJayy | 11/16/09
You are right! happy  Solid Water | 11/16/09
Nonsense.  outpastpluto | 11/17/09
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re: Problem with Linux ...  tracy anne | 11/21/09
RE: Problem with Linux  Ole Man | 11/21/09
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Their problem is two fold *NEW*  Chad_z | 11/23/09
Because they'll sell more? *NEW*  SoSueMeThen | 11/16/09
Yes, Windows might sell more if all else were equal. But, to get the cheap  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Would I pay $80 more for a $350 device that runs Windows? *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
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It's all about the profit *NEW*  T1Oracle | 11/16/09
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They tried that ... *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
Linux netbooks vs. Fatter Windows netbooks. *NEW*  outpastpluto | 11/17/09
Hey... *NEW*  cosuna | 11/17/09
Many bought Linux *NEW*  gdgtgrl | 11/19/09
@cosuna *NEW*  vulpine@... | 11/19/09
Linux To Regain 50% Netbook Market Share *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/21/09
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the ignorence of fanboys *NEW*  shadowscrawl | 11/19/09
Windos rulz *NEW*  b12sklfck | 11/19/09
And, that is the problem with those free markets. You can NOT stop cheaper  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
I agree ... *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
$70 rounding error in the U.S. *NEW*  cosuna | 11/17/09
I have to agree and have an example close to home: *NEW*  USTechHead | 11/19/09
Too late. *NEW*  TripleII | 11/16/09
You are right, like a TV. but TVs are getting Bigger because multimedia.... *NEW*  xuniL_z | 11/20/09
Sadly, all your points are rigth on *NEW*  mwagner@... | 11/19/09
A netbook is not a notebook *NEW*  symbolset | 11/20/09
My prediction: *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Good job Eco. *NEW*  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/16/09
Doubt that you can tell the difference, but  *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
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What are their options? (nt) *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
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I understand all that *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Google Chrome & WEB apps 'Cloud' *NEW*  Use_More_OIL_NOW | 11/16/09
I don't see it. *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
I do not want to continue this debate forever. *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Cobra, you're wearing him out. *NEW*  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/16/09
Fine, whatever . . . *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
@Economister: A few counter points *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
@de-void: Absolute Rubbish *NEW*  Economister | 11/19/09
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@CobraA1: I must REALLY have.. *NEW*  Economister | 11/19/09
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"Windows 7 and Office are doing well in the PC market..." *NEW*  vulpine@... | 11/19/09
That doesn't help the bottom line. *NEW*  TripleII | 11/16/09
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Hence why ARM will not take off. *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/19/09
You need to broaden your perspective a bit *NEW*  Economister | 11/19/09
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And so it's M$ forever? *NEW*  UAC nanny screen | 11/20/09
In a simple term: Backward compatibility *NEW*  trident123 | 11/19/09
Can't see the forest for the trees *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/21/09
They will sit still and look for something to copy *NEW*  T1Oracle | 11/16/09
Might even be faster. *NEW*  TripleII | 11/16/09
Then why are people buying Linux netbooks ... *NEW*  mwagner@... | 11/19/09
Dell: High Linux netbook returns a myth *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/21/09
No. *NEW*  symbolset | 11/20/09
Well Stevie "Boy Wonder" Jobs thinks his iPhraud IS a Netbook. *NEW*  IT_Guy_z | 11/16/09
Wel... *NEW*  Ceridan | 11/16/09
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I also think that  *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Forget video. *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
Not really *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
How many DVDs can be ripped to a 16GB SD card? I rest my case. *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Would that be about 16?  *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
What happens when we start downloading HD? *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
Compression *NEW*  UAC nanny screen | 11/20/09
If Google wanted to, they could break the market wide open by offering a  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Just weakening MS *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Memory is cheap, and web applications and loading lots of browser pages in  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Those limits would disappear in a hurry if..... *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Guys, seriously ... *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
Are you a Google employee? *NEW*  SoSueMeThen | 11/16/09
Wrong, Google could work with a hardware vendor to sell Google branded  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
So could MS *NEW*  SoSueMeThen | 11/16/09
Actually, you don't seem to "get" marketing... *NEW*  dbneeley | 11/19/09
Happy with Windows 7 *NEW*  websquad | 11/17/09
You are not the usual user *NEW*  Lerianis10 | 11/16/09
Excuse me, sales are up 264%, YOU are not the usual user. I rest my case. *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
I wouldn't be so quick there, buddy *NEW*  SoSueMeThen | 11/16/09
And let's not forget that 95% of those netbooks ran Windows *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
Wrong. *NEW*  dbneeley | 11/19/09
sorry, but you're wrong *NEW*  rtk | 11/19/09
sorry, but you're wrong *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/21/09
Hear hear *NEW*  johnd126 | 11/19/09
15" screen? *NEW*  IT_User | 11/17/09
10" screen is good *NEW*  johnd126 | 11/19/09
I Want a Fully Functional 10" Laptop, Who's With Me? *NEW*  allhaileris | 11/19/09
I tend to agree *NEW*  kcredden2 | 11/16/09
Who needs DVDs, lol. *NEW*  TripleII | 11/16/09
I think you're right: my 10" Asus is JUST right *NEW*  johnd126 | 11/19/09
dvd drives are here to stay in notebooks *NEW*  Randalllind | 11/19/09
DONNIE HAS SPOKEN, AND SO IT SHALL BE!!  *NEW*  xuniL_z | 11/20/09
They're a good second machine. *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
I agree *NEW*  Lerianis10 | 11/16/09
Problem with games is the tight form factor. *NEW*  CobraA1 | 11/16/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  marot_r@... | 11/16/09
Netbooks Dead? *NEW*  forallintentsandpurposes@... | 11/16/09
Yet, but those customers are the stupid ones *NEW*  Lerianis10 | 11/16/09
Who is stupid? *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Who's Stupid *NEW*  Richard B | 11/19/09
nope *NEW*  steeleblue_cactus | 11/19/09
unlike you, even the general public *NEW*  A.Lizard | 11/20/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  ElizabethALombardi@... | 11/16/09
You mean like CB radios.  *NEW*  No_Ax_to_Grind | 11/16/09
And like notebooks *NEW*  IT_User | 11/17/09
Netbooks to cut into smartphone sales? *NEW*  Tom12Tom | 11/16/09
Yeah, but *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Ever hear of "Bluetooth? *NEW*  windozefreak | 11/19/09
Well, I am hoping that prices both for the hardware, and the data plans,  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Kinda like Detroit's old adage about nobody wanting a compact automobile .. *NEW*  kd5auq | 11/16/09
Actually, that was true for many years *NEW*  Lerianis10 | 11/16/09
People didn't want? *NEW*  IT_User | 11/17/09
Exactly the point ...! *NEW*  kd5auq | 11/19/09
Too large for what? Travel? what percentage of people... *NEW*  xuniL_z | 11/20/09
I use a screen reader, called Orca, in my netbook. *NEW*  Grayson Peddie | 11/16/09
A friend has a daughter who..... *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Netbook is my (video) smart/i-phone *NEW*  jkyy9 | 11/16/09
You hit the nail on the head. Dirt cheap cell phones and plan, PLUS a  *NEW*  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
Yes, I can NEVER see..... *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Rumors of Netbooks' demise are greatly exaggerated  *NEW*  eMJayy | 11/16/09
Talk about shilling for MS.... *NEW*  storm14k | 11/16/09
Take a look around *NEW*  UAC nanny screen | 11/20/09
Linux owns 32 percent of netbook market *NEW*  Richard Flude | 11/16/09
They may talk... *NEW*  storm14k | 11/16/09
What percentage of the market *NEW*  SoSueMeThen | 11/16/09
Nonsense *NEW*  de-void | 11/17/09
Even if true, which it's not. How is 32% of THIS years = 32% of market?  *NEW*  xuniL_z | 11/20/09
My wife plans to get one by the way... *NEW*  storm14k | 11/16/09
And we.... *NEW*  Economister | 11/16/09
Chrome OS on HSPA enabled, ARM powered netbbooks/tablets *NEW*  kduhaime | 11/16/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  kduhaime | 11/16/09
Netbooks are the new notebooks. *NEW*  A WAR OUT FOR YOUR MIND | 11/16/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  watapulayam@... | 11/16/09
Enjoy a 100% full size keyboard Netbook *NEW*  kind999 | 11/16/09
it is all about price *NEW*  photomstr@... | 11/16/09
I disagree *NEW*  IT_User | 11/17/09
Wow - 18 posts by Economister. *NEW*  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 11/16/09
This will change any netbook owner's mind *NEW*  georgeou | 11/17/09
Noticed that yesterday. *NEW*  TripleII | 11/17/09
Thin, light... *NEW*  IT_User | 11/17/09
It is no bigger than an 11.6" netbook *NEW*  georgeou | 11/18/09
market-is-(NOT)dead/.... Link-is-dead!  *NEW*  Ole Man | 11/21/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  sgtm8@... | 11/17/09
Netbooks over iPhone, Blackberry & Droid *NEW*  milesmwa | 11/17/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  scottj3 | 11/17/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  outpastpluto | 11/17/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  sctc | 11/17/09
Netbooks will die. Tiny Notebooks FTW! *NEW*  boxmonkey | 11/17/09
I'm buying a notebook after giving it some serious thought *NEW*  TJGodel | 11/17/09
Still cant figure out Y anyone would buy these? *NEW*  Fletchguy | 11/17/09
Most netbooks have 160GB drive *NEW*  johnd126 | 11/19/09
I guess if 4-6 lbs is too heavy *NEW*  Fletchguy | 11/19/09
how often have you used that DVD drive... *NEW*  RCM_z | 11/19/09
actually *NEW*  steeleblue_cactus | 11/19/09
Many reasons why... *NEW*  kjsacramento | 11/21/09
NETbooks, they are for the Net *NEW*  clarnT | 11/17/09
the netbook haters have that.... *NEW*  RCM_z | 11/19/09
Be sure to buy at least a 10-inch model *NEW*  bmeacham98@... | 11/17/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  rich3page | 11/17/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  orionds | 11/18/09
Big hands.... *NEW*  zenwalker | 11/19/09
Not a FAD but niche product *NEW*  voska1 | 11/19/09
Netbooks far from dead *NEW*  zenwalker | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  midcapwarrior@... | 11/19/09
Plus *NEW*  magallanes | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  luiscordero | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks Dead? Fad? *NEW*  RedVeg | 11/19/09
Would you all have a look at these angles sometime and get back to us? *NEW*  Mabrick | 11/19/09
And, I really need to check my spelling...apologies for the mangling. (NT) *NEW*  Mabrick | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  RCM_z | 11/19/09
Your statistics don't breakdown ... *NEW*  mwagner@... | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  alexandre.portal | 11/19/09
@Economiester *NEW*  windozefreak | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  kg11 | 11/19/09
Larry, what % of second device users make up the 264%?  *NEW*  xuniL_z | 11/19/09
Netbooks are killing portable dvd, media players. *NEW*  raggi | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  krabapple | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  jtutton | 11/19/09
Specialized use? *NEW*  erica.j.henson@... | 11/19/09
Why would anyone want a computer at home? *NEW*  TJGodel | 11/19/09
Regular users don't need anything more *NEW*  gdgtgrl | 11/19/09
netbooks are growing *NEW*  tech_walker | 11/19/09
The real "Lap-top", what lap-tops are not... *NEW*  JD_Mortal | 11/19/09
I'm very happy with my netbook... *NEW*  NonSuch_z | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  sthomper@... | 11/19/09
Why not Linux? *NEW*  pvandck | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  vulpine@... | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  thursdaynightpoker | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  ebaileymershon | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  madrucke@... | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  b12sklfck | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  ViRaL1 | 11/19/09
Share of Wallet is what counts. *NEW*  monei011 | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  rajasso@... | 11/19/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  atalaia@... | 11/20/09
Live Cloud? Not so much *NEW*  symbolset | 11/20/09
Netbooks only do Net *NEW*  AdamzP | 11/20/09
With Linux on a Netbook *NEW*  tracy anne | 11/21/09
RE: Netbooks are dead *NEW*  douglasjohnledet@... | 11/20/09
It all depends... *NEW*  smtp4me@... | 11/20/09
RE: Netbooks dead? Not when sales are up 264% percent *NEW*  deowll | 11/20/09
netbooks were invented by ASUS... *NEW*  james.faction | 11/23/09

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