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November 16th, 2009

Verizon to AT&T: "Our ads are true and the truth hurts"

Posted by Sam Diaz @ 6:13 pm

Categories: AT&T, Legal, Mobile, Verizon

Tags: Advertisement, Verizon Communications Inc., AT&T Corp., 3G, Cellular Phones, Consumer Electronics, Personal Technology, Sam Diaz

Verizon Wireless responded today to a lawsuit filed by AT&T earlier this month that accused Verizon’s “There’s a map for that” marketing campaign of misleading consumers about AT&T’s 3G coverage in the United States.

In a nutshell, Verizon said AT&T’s request to have the ads pulled is without merit. From the court filing (PDF):

AT&T did not file this lawsuit because Verizon’s “There’s A Map For That” advertisements are untrue; AT&T sued because Verizon’s ads are true and the truth hurts… AT&T now is attempting to silence Verizon’s ads that include maps graphically depicting the geographic reach of AT&T’s 3G network as compared to Verizon’s own 3G network because AT&T does not like the truthful picture painted by that comparison.

In the court filing, Verizon outlines the reasons that AT&T’s arguments are without merit. They include:

  • Because the ads are truthful, AT&T is attacking them under faulty theories, including a claim that they are misleading. But Verizon says there’s no real evidence - aside from an AT&T commissioned survey - that proves that consumers are misled by the ad.
  • There is no emergency that would require the court to issue an immediate restraining order - as AT&T has requested - without giving Verizon the opportunity to conduct its own research and present evidence to prove that consumers are not being misled.
  • The harm to Verizon and the public, in general, caused by pulling the ads is greater than any alleged harm being inflicted on AT&T.

Those are all fine-and-dandy arguments about why the courts should deny AT&T’s motion but the main reason comes back to the headline statement: The ads are true. Period. But regular readers already know my thoughts on this AT&T-Verizon back-and-forth. Instead, I offer one more excerpt from Verizon’s filing that I think sums it up best:

AT&T seeks emergency relief because Verizon’s side-by-side, apples-to-apples comparison of its own 3G coverage with AT&T’s confirms what the marketplace has been saying for months: AT&T failed to invest adequately in the necessary infrastructure to expand its 3G coverage to support its growth in smartphone business, and the usefulness of its service to smartphone users has suffered accordingly. AT&T may not like the message that the ads send, but this Court should reject its efforts to silence the messenger.

I couldn’t have said it better myself.

Related coverage: Memo to AT&T: When you’re in a hole, stop digging

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I can tell you're excited but please refrain from exaggerating.
Barely .01% of the US population will even hear about this lawsuit. This will not make more people move to Verizon. The commercials are doing that all by themselves. This suit brings no added 'free' publicity.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: No More Microsoft Software Ever! Posted on: 11/23/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Man, If there were ever a moment for AT&T to just shut up, this would be it  DonnieBoy | 11/16/09
For once, you're right on the money...  Wolfie2K3 | 11/17/09
Satan? Hades?  Greenman76 | 11/17/09
re: Satan? Hades?  mikemusica@... | 11/17/09
Do tell -  JT82 | 11/17/09
re: Do tell -  mikemusica@... | 11/17/09
re: Do tell-  JT82 | 11/17/09
Depends on your version...  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
Hades is not hell. It is the first death and is mentioned, vers. dependent  xuniL_z | 11/17/09
Which version is this?  Greenman76 | 11/17/09
Free publicity for Verizon  Spats30 | 11/17/09
I can tell you're excited but please refrain from exaggerating.  No More Microsoft Software Ever! | 11/23/09
Verizon vs. ATT  johnupton2002@... | 11/17/09
Shut up and die AT&T  KineticArtist | 11/19/09
Tip to A&T: Stop digging... ya big baby  TylerM89 | 11/16/09
Verizon  itguy08 | 11/17/09
Based on what? Your backyard?  JT82 | 11/17/09
Cnetral and South PA, Northern NJ  itguy08 | 11/17/09
Ok...I'm reminded of YMMV then..  JT82 | 11/17/09
umm...  jesterpezz | 11/17/09
I love it  rob.sharp@... | 11/17/09
Yep and VZW has both happy  JT82 | 11/17/09
wait till you get the bill  adr5@... | 11/17/09
costs about the same  gnesterenko | 11/17/09
Re: costs  woad@... | 11/17/09
Bzzzzzzzt  An Apple a Day | 11/17/09
Doubtful I'm the only one  itguy08 | 11/17/09
Point Taken...  An Apple a Day | 11/17/09
Surely you're kidding  Mister Bleau | 11/17/09
Not in my backyard.  bernalillo | 11/17/09
MIFI  derbaff | 11/17/09
AT&T  woad@... | 11/17/09
Whoa!!  DirtyDingus | 11/17/09
IPhone Verizon = Phone bliss will never happen.  cbalyn | 11/17/09
iPhone and Verizon  pdickey43@... | 11/17/09
2 control freaks?  Bruizer | 11/17/09
You mean they're making an iPhone that will...  olePigeon | 11/17/09
I doubt I'll need coverage outside the Americas...  D. W. Bierbaum | 11/18/09
CDMA is newer than GSM...  condelirios | 11/17/09
Uh, no...  olePigeon | 11/17/09
Not to mention CDMA is simply better.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Well  jdbukis@... | 11/17/09
GSM in Europe is a LOT better than the U.S....  olePigeon | 11/17/09
That would be you only choice, considering CDMA forces vendor lockin. [nt]  olePigeon | 11/17/09
Lock-In is an issue with GSM in the US too...  nick@... | 11/18/09
|_ Yes...  olePigeon | 11/18/09
From my experience, not sure about that...  nick@... | 11/18/09
(+)1  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
I've had both  Axsimulate | 11/17/09
I wish we had a 3rd option  linux_kernel | 11/17/09
Who is that?  JT82 | 11/17/09
My experience with Verizon was painful.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
T Mobile Rocks for me in Houston  Uralbas | 11/17/09
Try AZ, N. Cal, OR and UT.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Me, too! I've had Verizon...  chas_2 | 11/18/09
Your problem is less verizon and more Oklahoma  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
Well... Not quiet true. The problem was 100% Verizon.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Truth, verizon has little to no wait times.  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
Verizon customer service  woad@... | 11/17/09
Verizon Customer Service  TecKnight | 11/20/09
Spint? Nextel? T-Mobile?  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
Sprint  condelirios | 11/17/09
I HAVE both and 100% agree.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
there's one hurter in every discussion  eggmanbubbagee@... | 11/17/09
#'s don't lie  itguy08 | 11/17/09
re:there's one hurter in every discussion  woad@... | 11/17/09
Confusing personal experience with nationwide coverage . . .  CobraA1 | 11/17/09
I'd say it depends a lot on the market but ...  mwagner@... | 11/17/09
I can tell people with Verizon in our labs...  Bruizer | 11/17/09
It's funny, I can't tell at all  Snowy_River | 11/17/09
re: coverage differnces by phone  woad@... | 11/17/09
Having ou company switch from AT&T last year  SoSueMeThen | 11/17/09
All wireless is local...  bernalillo | 11/17/09
In a recent trip, I found Verizon's 3G map a blatant lie  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Hrm...really?  JT82 | 11/17/09
Really  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Well, because you kind of said it...  moviedemon | 11/17/09
How else could I compare them?  Bruizer | 11/17/09
It's pretty much impossible to predict the behavior of radio waves . . .  CobraA1 | 11/17/09
Impossible to predict radio waves, but...  arcrews@... | 11/17/09
Exactly.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
hard to say . . .  CobraA1 | 11/17/09
Lets put it this way.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Radio waves?  vger_z | 11/17/09
But...they have that guy  cgarrett | 11/17/09
EX Ham radio operator... HMMM  mdp716 | 11/17/09
Let's not get into peronal attacks, okay?  CobraA1 | 11/17/09
re: Let's not get into peronal attacks, okay?  woad@... | 11/17/09
I just Drove Cross Country  tgschmidt | 11/17/09
Does your card grab the stronger signal?  pdickey43@... | 11/17/09
When you are on the road you need 3G!!!  tgschmidt | 11/17/09
Norther IL was actually pretty darn good with Verizon.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Then before blasting it..  JT82 | 11/17/09
If they broadcast 3G but your devices can't use it...  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Correction..  JT82 | 11/17/09
BUZZ!!! You loose.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Actually you lose, on so many different levels..  JT82 | 11/17/09
Blah blah blah. Nice try.  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Is this what you meant to say?  Mihi Nomen Est | 11/17/09
Auto correct strikes again. (nt)  Bruizer | 11/17/09
Me thinks they protest too much.  ShadeTree | 11/17/09
Free Verizon advertising  Salonikios | 11/17/09
A yup!  golstat2003 | 11/17/09
I noticed they haven't pulled their ads.  CobraA1 | 11/17/09
Most all commercials lie or shade the truth  lschw1 | 11/17/09
Are you crazy?  werner.zukowski@... | 11/17/09
Americans detest all lies  cbalyn | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  gjoh@... | 11/17/09
Question  SkaldedKat | 11/17/09
Have you noticed that AT&T has ...  mwagner@... | 11/17/09
Now that has to hurt  tgschmidt | 11/17/09
Of course, it HAS to differ where you live  fjpoblam | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon in my area is awful AT&T hands down better  MARDELLE | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  BoHere39 | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  neverhome | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  PC Repair | 11/17/09
The courts will decide  TroutHound | 11/17/09
At least your honest about being Biased  pllamonica@... | 11/17/09
So you are also voting that people are stupid..  JT82 | 11/17/09
Skype calls are...  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
re:So you are also voting that people are stupid..  woad@... | 11/17/09
I suppose then we should all go with sprint.  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
RE: misleading  RedVeg | 11/17/09
See above..  JT82 | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  deputykieser@... | 11/17/09
Be a little more specific before ranting..  JT82 | 11/17/09
data plans  woad@... | 11/17/09
How does AT&T claim Fastest 3G Network  pwilli33 | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  vger_z | 11/17/09
It's SBC/PacBell, of course....  Rick S._z | 11/17/09
But AT&T Helped Me Find My Lost Dog!!!  itanalyst2@... | 11/17/09
When are we getting 4G Nationwide?  Spiritusindomit@... | 11/17/09
There is a reason whi I don't have an iPhone  ca1ic0cat | 11/17/09
AT&T says they have service just not 3G LOL  Randalllind | 11/17/09
Verizon 3G smokes AT&T 3G - period  BillDem | 11/17/09
Verizon connectivity is ON or OFF, AT&T is "well, maybe"  jparr | 11/17/09
Apples to apples?  BitSmacker | 11/17/09
It is not only coverage  zenwalker | 11/17/09
With any luck this will result is mass executive fireings at AT&T  Breetai | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  bandemann | 11/17/09
Your Experience With Verizon  Karl K | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  athynz | 11/17/09
I have proof ATT phones are BETTER  squirenet | 11/17/09
Hardly  balsover | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  jimb01 | 11/17/09
3G is just a fine print  pauliusp | 11/17/09
coverage maps  woad@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  dbell2@... | 11/17/09
The AT&T Map they use is wrong.  Narg | 11/17/09
Can't be.. IMO  Oregon_Polar | 11/17/09
The problem my friend is your iPhone....  htotten | 11/17/09
Yep....  htotten | 11/17/09
The ATT map is correct  tgschmidt | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  stevef61@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  timb08195@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  rueldeleon@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  htotten | 11/17/09
Neptune prefers Net 10  Prime Waverider | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  Texas8412 | 11/17/09
Reception variation  monei011 | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  Jim from NoVA | 11/17/09
FU-CK YOU AT&T grin  pinoytutorial | 11/17/09
I will not do business with . . .  scarlett2fire@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T: (Well where I love)  rob_cluett@... | 11/17/09
smartphones?  Aaerg | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  deowll | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  pyropakjim@... | 11/17/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  rsflea@... | 11/18/09
You are right  kdjkdj@... | 11/18/09
Can only Respond to what I have Experienced  ITGuy70 | 11/18/09
RE: AT&T LOST THE "TOWER" BATTLE:  santu2727 | 11/18/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  davekingsb@... | 11/18/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  miwi98 | 11/18/09
Absolutely right, Sam...  chas_2 | 11/18/09
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RE: Verizon to AT&T:  Jimster480 | 11/18/09
Apple can't be pleased. But what goes around, comes around. I love the one.  xuniL_z | 11/18/09
Love stinks...  JD_Mortal | 11/18/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  ghostwolf8 | 11/19/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  tracy@... | 11/19/09
What constitutes the definition of "coverage"?  Dr_Zinj | 11/20/09
Maybe AT&T learned something from Apple:  smtp4me@... | 11/20/09
RE: Verizon to AT&T:  Jeepsrme | 11/20/09

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