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November 19th, 2009

Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 11:12 am

Categories: Chrome OS, Cloud computing, General, Google, Web Technology

Tags: Google Inc., Operating System, Google Chrome, Security Picture, Desktops, Operating Systems, Hardware, Software, Larry Dignan

Google on Thursday revealed a bevy of noteworthy developments for its Chrome OS. The company released the Chrome OS to the open source community, laid out its security vision and promised to deliver a simple operating system. However, the success or failure of the Chrome OS will ride on whether users will give up desktop applications.

Sundar Pichai, Vice President of Product Management, outlined the Chrome OS, noted that “there’s a paradigm shift in computing” presumably to netbooks and noted:

“Every application is a Web application. There are no conventional desktop applications.”

And there’s the rub.

The Chrome browser on Chrome OS will be “blazingly fast” with a demo boot time of 3 seconds or so. The security picture is solid. And since the Chrome OS is connected to the Web, silly things like updating and installation will go away.

Also: Inside the Google Chrome OS security model

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Simply put, Google’s vision rides in the cloud. The devices that run the Chrome OS will have all data in the cloud and depend on wireless cards and Wi-Fi. Google said it would specify what wireless cards it will support. Google’s mission is to give the Web applications access to all of the hardware available to today’s operating systems.

So here’s the question: Are you ready to give up your desktop applications?

Do you believe in superphones?

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You have about a year to answer the question and there will probably be a big debate between now and the Google OS launch with hardware partners. Google executives walked a line between pitching Chrome OS devices as a secondary computing machine, but one where you may spend the majority of your time on it.

Pichai noted that if you’re a lawyer doing contracts all day Google’s Chrome OS powered netbooks “won’t be the machine for you.”

Nevertheless, Google’s moves today with the Chrome OS are notable and the company clearly thinks that its approach will be a hit. And it’s hard to argue for the simplicity of a browser-based operating system, quick boot times and the move to cut out a lot of startup processes. If successful, Google can push more folks to the cloud.

My hunch is it may a while to get consumers to believe that “every application is a Web application.”

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RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?
Nope. Desktop apps are needed for any multimedia activity. You can't wait on the net while recording music, neither can you wait to upload your 12GB-per-hour video to a web application for editing and... (Read the rest)
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I can't  NStalnecker | 11/19/09
Agreed - nobody is online 24/7  BillDem | 11/19/09
Guys, that is why there are OFFLINE web applications. Googles gmail already  DonnieBoy | 11/19/09
in my experience  tscharf | 11/20/09
So we get to read email when on the plane?  connor33 | 11/20/09
For sure, but unless I'm missing something  unclefixer@... | 11/20/09
Not just network outage  LBiege | 11/19/09
Hardware on demand.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Hardware cannot be streamlined ...  LBiege | 11/19/09
Rather than everybody powering their own supercomputer  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Pigs are flying in the sky ...  LBiege | 11/19/09
Go buy your supercomputer to run Vista dude.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Have you realized it's 21st century already?  LBiege | 11/19/09
Give him a break...  kaninelupus | 11/20/09
I run Vista and my cpu idles at 1%  connor33 | 11/20/09
ChromeOS doesn't make a netbook greener  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Agreed...and one of the main reasons Google Docs  USTechHead | 11/19/09
Not demanding ...  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Underestimating the Problem  bhartman36 | 11/19/09
Stop looking over your shoulder.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
See the future by going back to the past??  bhartman36 | 11/19/09
The fact is...  edwards.wb | 11/19/09
But would you agree that it might  Economister | 11/19/09
Yet again an idiotic response  kaninelupus | 11/20/09
With Windows you can run both Google docs and MS Office  connor33 | 11/20/09
What are google thinking?  spark_l | 11/19/09
it only takes a few moments to get the answer you need  grimdeath | 11/19/09
You can do NOTHING...  arminw | 11/20/09
OReally?  AlexChiefTech | 11/19/09
*pulls hair out*  grimdeath | 11/19/09
I think your missing something  Pliny the Elder | 11/19/09
It's only the beginning  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
So dismiss your personal failures  John Zern | 11/19/09
betas  grimdeath | 11/19/09
That's not what they said at all...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Has little to do with it.  Bruizer | 11/19/09
captain obvious!  grimdeath | 11/19/09
If you deal with little itty bitty files.  Bruizer | 11/19/09
What are they going to offer?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Ignorant because???  kaninelupus | 11/20/09
What?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
MS software goes down without the Internet  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
And I suppose Google doesn't want to crush anyone, right?  IT_Guy_z | 11/19/09
Win7 is MS's last chance  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Holy Cow!  SoSueMeThen | 11/19/09
LOL, like Google Vista? Or Google 7?  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
You can access google docs with Windows  connor33 | 11/20/09
What are you talking about?  SoSueMeThen | 11/19/09
A mere kid are you?  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Frothy  NStalnecker | 11/19/09
Keep to the subject dude.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
You should too...  tjbud | 11/19/09
Maybe...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
This is not about MS  edwards.wb | 11/19/09
No...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Others Can  aj.redmond@... | 11/19/09
Until the Internet is as reliable as...  arminw | 11/20/09
You are already half way there.  caspianhiro | 11/20/09
The only problem I see for the average user...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
non-sensitive docs ok in the cloud  killerbunny | 11/20/09
But with no local storage...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Only web apps...  donw1234 | 11/20/09
All the talk so far...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
I Agree  lwvirden | 11/23/09
I won't (nt)  Economister | 11/19/09
Let me see now.  itpro_z | 11/19/09
No...  mjlaverty@... | 11/19/09
Right up there with MS PassPort!  kd5auq | 11/19/09
Then it may be a super hit!!  oncall | 11/19/09
hmm  grimdeath | 11/19/09
We've been here before though  NStalnecker | 11/19/09
You're still tethered to one physical object...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
You are missing the point...  prof123 | 11/21/09
I already have  thelivo | 11/19/09
Then you are one of...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  Mike_says | 11/19/09
Haven't we seen web appliances before?  nothingness | 11/19/09
Desktop kingdom?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  Loverock Davidson | 11/19/09
I don't trust Microsoft with mine...  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Frothy is a good name for you  SoSueMeThen | 11/19/09
Yes I chose well.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
fr0thy2  medezark@... | 11/19/09
"You obviously have little knowledge of the history of Microsoft"  dfolk2 | 11/19/09
Thanks  medezark@... | 11/20/09
Google has the BEST coders...  linux_kernel | 11/19/09
Sure do  itpro_z | 11/19/09
All your data are belong to us! (NT)  Badgered | 11/20/09
yeah, because your screenname doesn't prove how biased you are...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
"You obviously have little knowledge of the history of Microsoft"- take 2  dfolk2 | 11/20/09
I disagree with this assessment...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
My first computer  jprescott12@... | 11/20/09
You're right about the greed thing.  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Death of Microsoft?  aduana@... | 11/19/09
lol  Badgered | 11/20/09
GIve me enough time  NStalnecker | 11/19/09
Given our Government,...  arminw | 11/20/09
don't forget...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
But MS doesn't sell that info, that it took without your permission  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Yes yes yes!  Lovehog Dorkson | 11/19/09
Apparently, you miss the point...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
No, it's not at all about giving up desktop apps...  doctorSpoc | 11/19/09
It's a dumb idea  HalfAKilo | 11/19/09
Idiot.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Mis-Stated  medezark@... | 11/19/09
your right to a degree  grimdeath | 11/19/09
Your example doesn't work  wizard57m@... | 11/19/09
Not quite "full functionality"  Badgered | 11/20/09
You are mistaken  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Unfortunately, Google and allies are shoving all that stuff into W3C specs  PB_z | 11/19/09
OOXML?  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Two kinds of users:  Economister | 11/19/09
Identity Theft  NStalnecker | 11/19/09
Well, I am no security expert, but  Economister | 11/19/09
Re: Chrome OS  Joe_Raby | 11/19/09
Reading Trouble? (nt)  Economister | 11/19/09
I'm sure he means any flavour of Windows  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
What I meant was  Economister | 11/19/09
sure  Badgered | 11/20/09
Joe Average  aj.redmond@... | 11/19/09
Agree, but  Economister | 11/19/09
Correct.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Do you see almost a  Economister | 11/19/09
Workstations (with less power needed)  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Did you not read. . . .  medezark@... | 11/19/09
@medezark: If I were Google  Economister | 11/19/09
Yea Bash prompt  aaaqqq1234 | 11/19/09
When there's nothing left to click on ...  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Well, not exactly  aj.redmond@... | 11/19/09
Since you need to be connected to the internet to do anything...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Then the other User who...  linux_kernel | 11/19/09
It's not that Linux is safe from Viruses/Worms/Malware/Spyware/Trojans  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Incorrect  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  bhasinusc@... | 11/19/09
Always connected? Get real  GeiselS@... | 11/19/09
never  Quebec-french | 11/19/09
So I can have local apps AND web apps  SoSueMeThen | 11/19/09
Bad idea...  Ceridan | 11/19/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  c28560 | 11/19/09
Not me - local is the best...nt  USTechHead | 11/19/09
Only if it's Microsoft  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
Will you give up desktop apps?  aaaqqq1234 | 11/19/09
Not always connected . . .  CobraA1 | 11/19/09
Every day, more are ...  nottheusual1 | 11/19/09
Never going to use it.  IT_Guy_z | 11/19/09
YOU should not trust them to  oncall | 11/19/09
Everybody usually learns the hard way when it comes to backing up data.  IT_Guy_z | 11/19/09
Not Again!  preachjohn | 11/20/09
I wouldn't be worried about losing data with this...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Why trust Microsoft, the biggest liars going?  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
I trust Microsoft because...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Lightweight will be good...  dtn_cybermail@... | 11/19/09
But MS aren't trustworthy.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
hmm...  Badgered | 11/20/09
And your opinions didn't come from the clerck at the Apple Store, right?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  aaaqqq1234 | 11/19/09
Especially with no Steam support  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
WTF? Are you kidding?  tjbud | 11/19/09
I want my stuff under my thumb, not Google's  Tholian_53 | 11/19/09
Anything that helps kill Micrsoft is good.  fr0thy2 | 11/19/09
You do realize  NStalnecker | 11/20/09
NStalnecker, what a Duffus!  pitirre1000@... | 11/20/09
Did you even read what OP said?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
I have several BIG questions nobody has asked  savage3006 | 11/19/09
I think...  Economister | 11/19/09
what?  savage3006 | 11/19/09
Maybe most users don't rip DVDs? (nt)  Economister | 11/19/09
My personal opinion  oncall | 11/19/09
I agree, but  Economister | 11/19/09
I don't think that it'll put pressure on MS pricing...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
I think Chrome OS is Google's Bob -nt-  Bruizer | 11/19/09
You have CLEARLY done your homework (nt)  Economister | 11/19/09
The desktop PC is nearing end of life...  linux_kernel | 11/19/09
so?  savage3006 | 11/19/09
What BS  NStalnecker | 11/20/09
Again with the blatant bias!  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Google's Dumb Internet Terminal  Tom12Tom | 11/19/09
Not much of a visionary? (nt)  Economister | 11/19/09
Google's Vision: Return to the pre-PC Mainframe Era  Tom12Tom | 11/19/09
Not necessarily  Economister | 11/19/09
re:Not much of a visionary?  BrewmanNH | 11/20/09
The thin client scam  tonymcs@... | 11/19/09
Another moronic post  Economister | 11/19/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  e_ecruz | 11/19/09
This is the wrong question  T1Oracle | 11/19/09
No, that doesn't fly.  TripleII | 11/19/09
The iphone has a low end cpu but the games are still fun  connor33 | 11/19/09
What innovation?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Nope, it's a bad idea.  TripleII | 11/19/09
To both your posts:  Economister | 11/19/09
Do both?  TripleII | 11/19/09
Well, not being an expert on the subject  Economister | 11/19/09
My problem is...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
I predict  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Only if you get decent Web apps.  Bruizer | 11/19/09
Computers aren't forever  BrewmanNH | 11/20/09
All your data are belong to us...  Dan the Digital Dog | 11/19/09
More info?  Economister | 11/19/09
..  savage3006 | 11/19/09
And you concluded that from what?  Economister | 11/19/09
Scared paper MCSE's are running  Use_More_OIL_NOW | 11/19/09
There is a flaw in your logic...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Thanks for the info  Agnostic_OS | 11/20/09
Another idea that's on another world.  kcredden2 | 11/19/09
Simple - If it does not suit you, do not use it.  Economister | 11/19/09
Wow - a Google shill!  Dan the Digital Dog | 11/19/09
Since you seem to have figured  Economister | 11/19/09
Well, it is open source...  Dan the Digital Dog | 11/19/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  XArt | 11/19/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  DannyO_0x98 | 11/19/09
I hope it is just a first step...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Pay to play, work ...  Lou72 | 11/19/09
I bet they will keep doing what they're doing...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
chrome is ubuntu based  samzbest@... | 11/19/09
Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  lehnerus2000 | 11/19/09
are we renting our aps now?  joelrstevens | 11/19/09
I agree...  Churlish | 11/20/09
further things to think about....  joelrstevens | 11/20/09
stateless os????  joelrstevens | 11/20/09
NOPE  photomstr@... | 11/19/09
Nice Idea...  wright_is | 11/20/09
After the Chrome OS ship sails and if Google can patch it fast enough  softwareFlunky | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Too early to tell  shanedr | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  digera | 11/20/09
At this point...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Other browsers?  lind777 | 11/20/09
doubtful...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  Agnostic_OS | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  bhasinusc@... | 11/20/09
Nope  guildwarsguy123 | 11/20/09
Umm...no?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
No  NStalnecker | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  tscharf | 11/20/09
Google just validates MS's agrument about IE bundling  tkchan007 | 11/20/09
It's funny...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
No  marksashton | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  tburzio | 11/20/09
What about your digital camera?  Randalllind | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  eglowell | 11/20/09
And how did that work out for them?  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  pete shaw | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  thedesh | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  steve42lawson | 11/20/09
When you run Windows you can choose from Open Office, MS Office and even  connor33 | 11/20/09
Chrome OS  unclefixer@... | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  jfgeschmidtt | 11/20/09
Desktop apps or Web apps...the typical PC user doesn't really care  eMJayy | 11/20/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  dsljay | 11/20/09
Chrome OS: unneeded and dangerous  jorjitop | 11/21/09
what?  bhasinusc@... | 11/21/09
No...  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
Deleted  jedidethfreak | 11/21/09
depends on the app and the activity  Hobyx | 11/21/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  jk3021 | 11/21/09
Netbook Crowd might Like it  jpr75_z | 11/22/09
Google's Chrome OS: What a rip-off...  transposeIT | 11/22/09
Short answer: No  Mike (not Cox) | 11/23/09
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RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  dstarke1 | 11/29/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  dave@... | 12/05/09
RE: Google's Chrome OS: Will you give up desktop apps?  dave@... | 12/05/09

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