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May 22nd, 2007

Dell, Ubuntu and the driver details

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 5:20 am

Categories: Dell, Hardware Infrastructure, Linux, Open Source

Tags: Ubuntu, Linux, Dell Computer Corp., Larry Dignan

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Dell outlined some of the technical details surrounding its use of Ubuntu 7.04 on its desktops.

Judging from Dell’s post, the main takeaways appear to be:

  • Dell is choosing peripheral options based on what hardware has the most “mature and stable” Linux drivers.
  • Dell will use open source drivers where possible. If none are available it’ll use closed source options.
  • Dell promises it will work with vendors to get better Linux drivers. “While this may not happen overnight, we do expect to have a broader range of hardware support with Linux over time,” says John Hull, manager of Linux OS technologies at Dell.
  • Dell won’t support audio and video codecs that aren’t distributed with Ubuntu already. In other words, all the MPEGs, WMA, WMV, DVD and QuickTime.

My takeaway: This may be too difficult to mainstream desktop Linux unless Dell packages these things in a friendly way. That latter point on media support doesn’t sound friendly. I realize that Ubuntu on a Dell is going to appeal to a small subset of folks, but in the long run someone like me will be a target. What would get me to try Ubuntu?

Here’s the definition of drivers for me: A lost weekend screwing around with software when I should be outside. Adrian Kingsley-Hughes is dead on when he outlines what the Linux community doesn’t understand about users (I fully expect them to get it later).

Nevertheless, Dell’s Ubuntu move is important. As I noted before and Ryan Paul at Ars Technica said yesterday. Dell’s Ubuntu choice is good news for desktop Linux. But semi-mainstream use of Linux on the desktop is going to take some time.

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Posted by: Jxn Posted on: 05/28/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Take some time? Yeah, years - if ever, (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Perhaps, Dell is targeting a different market  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Message has been deleted.  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
That's just too funny! happy  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Or,,,  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Ooooh, that's why wink  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Well if that were the case then devil  Linux User 147560 | 05/22/07
Don't think that.  Jxn | 05/28/07
Dell-usional  GeiselS@... | 05/22/07
Great job shutting your eyes.  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Maybe, but doubtful it will suceed  jonnjonnzdnet | 05/22/07
"most office workers are trained and skilled on Windows products"  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
I guess that means you will not be upgrading to Vista and MSO 2k7...  Logics | 05/22/07
RE: I guess that means you will not be upgrading to Vista and MSO 2k7...  joe6pack_z | 05/22/07
Actually  tracy anne | 05/23/07
Most office workers  Freebird54 | 05/22/07
Not at all  xyz10_z | 05/22/07
It is already succeeding  Jambalaya Breath | 05/22/07
And yet, it just isn not happening.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Axey, Most . . .  JLHenry | 05/22/07
Here we go again...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Acutally . . .  JLHenry | 05/22/07
I used to agree  Jambalaya Breath | 05/22/07
yep i am called to install software to JLHenry  SO.CAL Guy | 05/22/07
Well . . .  jlhenry62 | 05/23/07
I just realised that I have two ID's . . . Have to fix that . . .Sorry (nt)  jlhenry62 | 05/23/07
RE: Axey, Most . . .  joe6pack_z | 05/22/07
Naahhh . . .  jlhenry62 | 05/23/07
Funny, it sure is happening anyway wink  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Let me guess, "This is the year of Linux on the desktop",,, again.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Hmm  Jxn | 05/28/07
Gee - I had no idea  Freebird54 | 05/22/07
Perhaps then...  fore_thought@... | 05/23/07
Another nail in the coffin  ParrotHeadFL | 05/22/07
Time to sell  mveble@... | 05/22/07
How much you got?  Jambalaya Breath | 05/22/07
Perhaps they will  Freebird54 | 05/22/07
Mainstream doesn't want Linux. Only a small...  ye | 05/22/07
I remember 1981....  startx.jeff | 05/22/07
Who cares about "mainstream" anyway?  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
The Mainstream  M.R. Kennedy | 05/22/07
This has never been true.  Logics | 05/22/07
"apparently, neither do you"?  Ole Man | 05/22/07
Oh Brother, why dost thou think...  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
Take it up with the authors of the article as...  ye | 05/22/07
It was your statement  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
It was clearly the authors. I quoted the relevant part.  ye | 05/22/07
It was your statement  joe6pack_z | 05/22/07
i just don't think dell will sell many and heres why  SO.CAL Guy | 05/22/07
I don't know  jacarter3 | 05/22/07
What area of the country are you in?  JLHenry | 05/23/07
RE: i just don't think dell will sell many and heres why  joe6pack_z | 05/22/07
joe6pack_z you don't know much do you  SO.CAL Guy | 05/23/07
Just a couple of suggestions . . .  JLHenry | 05/23/07
Installing codecs: just 3 mouse clicks!  pjotr123 | 05/22/07
So they made theft easy?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Not theft, parrot mouth. wink  Logics | 05/22/07
I guess you need a lesson  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Well, Duh . . .  JLHenry | 05/22/07
Wrong!!!!  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
And that negates my statement, how eactly? . . .[nt]  JLHenry | 05/22/07
How? Becaue its illegal.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Go to . . .  JLHenry | 05/22/07
Settle down, Axey  M.R. Kennedy | 05/22/07
If it's illegal... devil  Linux User 147560 | 05/22/07
Please show a case  Freebird54 | 05/22/07
Ummm -- Mike?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/22/07
No_Ax actually doesn't have an opinion any more ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
George...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Does he have to pay MS for their IP use in his opinions? wink  Logics | 05/22/07
Ignoring the irrelevant parts of your post..  Logics | 05/22/07
Now there you go trying to confuse him with facts ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Doomed to failure  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/22/07
There ARE sources of completely legal, licensed codecs ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
I fully agre it CAN be done, but what do we see?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
So ... why didn't you just say that in the first place ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Not at all, Axy.  Logics | 05/22/07
But note that not all options are legal ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
I don't think so  shraven | 05/22/07
And you are right of course ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Check out the Freespire Distro . . .  JLHenry | 05/23/07
Even easier!  emmerc@... | 05/22/07
Dell is making a mistake with the codecs  teddybairs1 | 05/22/07
Costs more...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Shouldn't that be up to Ubuntu?  3D0G | 05/22/07
Codec Smodec, who gives a....  Narg | 05/22/07
Agreed!  big red one | 05/22/07
But Linux doesn't suport them  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
That's funny  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/22/07
If OEM, (Dell), doesn't do it right, it's a big blackeye  Boot_Agnostic | 05/22/07
Honestly, I think Dell will figure  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Agree with you on the experiment not lasting long,  mustangj36@... | 05/22/07
not necessarily bad  reugen | 05/22/07
Name them?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
last company i worked for,,  reugen | 05/22/07
So either they are lying or you are  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
Now you are just being  Linux User 147560 | 05/22/07
No audicodecs are needed-  reugen | 05/22/07
RSAndrews.  Logics | 05/22/07
as jacarter3s post says  reugen | 05/22/07
codecs and drivers in ubuntu  bluefox83 | 05/22/07
How do you get a LEGAL WMV or WMA codec?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 05/22/07
CNR  reugen | 05/22/07
Whoa! ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Crossover Office is another way  Michael Kelly | 05/22/07
There are still licensing issues with Crossover ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
But perhaps not ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Standards are a *****, aren't they?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/22/07
Easy -  Freebird54 | 05/22/07
No_Ax is flat out lying here ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
And your point is ... ?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/22/07
My point is to call attention to the post ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
Nothing new here  Yagotta B. Kidding | 05/23/07
Well it's confirmed...  Linux User 147560 | 05/22/07
One thing I will say about Feisty Fawn  Michael Kelly | 05/22/07
Its probably part of his employment contract ...  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
(In reply to Logic's question regarding No_Ax)  George Mitchell | 05/22/07
LINUX IS TOO FAR OUT  BALTHOR | 05/22/07
BALTHOR bud i did not understand your post dude could you clarify (nt)  SO.CAL Guy | 05/22/07
"TOO FAR OUT"???  Ole Man | 05/22/07
No codecs? Oops.  davemulk | 05/22/07
Right ON let's get started...  mikifinaz1@... | 05/22/07
Codecs  Nobu_z | 05/22/07
if you're going to talk about Dell's Ubuntu in public  A.Lizard | 05/22/07
I'm ubuntu user...  erick@... | 05/22/07
dumb and dumber  jogiba@... | 05/22/07
Jan 5, 2008 - Dell Drops Linux - Again  jpr75_z | 05/23/07
Climbing the Eiger  ConfusedOne | 05/23/07
This just shows you don't know anything about Ubuntu.  carbonred | 05/23/07
VLC?--CODECS!!!  stalinvlad@... | 05/23/07
Why so much negitivy  dbear135 | 05/23/07

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