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June 1st, 2007

The effect of bloatware: A 1986 Mac Plus beats a 2007 AMD dual-core PC

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:56 am

Categories: Apple, General, Hardware Infrastructure, Microsoft, Software Infrastructure

Tags: Apple Macintosh, Bloatware, PC, Advanced Micro Devices Inc., Larry Dignan

In what is arguably the most hilarious–yet disconcerting–benchmark comparison ever Hal Licino at HubPages has compared a 1986 Mac Plus vs. a 2007 AMD dual-core PC and the antique Mac generally performed better.

The takeaway: Your operating system is obese. Really obese.

Licino’s pits a Mac Plus running System 6.0.8 with 1 megabyte of RAM against a modern PC. Let’s just say his 2007 PC needs a little more horsepower.

Licino writes in his post:

System 6.0.8 requires 1MB, Windows XP requires 1.5GB and Windows Vista 15GB. Yes, Vista needs 15,000 times the hard disk space as System 6.0.8.

System 6.0.8 is not only a lot more compact since it has far fewer (mostly useless) features and therefore less code to process, but also because it was written in assembly code instead of the higher level language C. The lower the level of the code language, the less processing cycles are required to get something done.

When it comes to the chips, the Mac Plus runs on a Motorola chip running at 8MHz. The AMD runs at 2.4 GHz. He splurged on the Mac Plus to give it 4MB of RAM–I used to own one of these Mac Plus systems and the figures Licino tosses around sound prehistoric.

Now before folks start yapping about whether this is a fair comparison, Licino outlines his methodology, which sounds pretty logical to me.

As for the results, here’s Licino’s money shot:

For the functions that people use most often, the 1986 vintage Mac Plus beats the 2007 AMD Athlon 64 X2 4800+: 9 tests to 8! Out of the 17 tests, the antique Mac won 53% of the time! Including a jaw-dropping 52 second whipping of the AMD from the time the Power button is pushed to the time the Desktop is up and usable.

His point: Today’s PCs are clearly better and can do more but bloat has killed any productivity gains. Lucino’s post is a must read and the comments are a hoot too.

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yes, but not back then...
because the only disc drive on the Mac Plus was a floppy!
So the 1MB of RAM then is the equivalent of a HDD today,
because there was nowhere else to store intermediate data.

The point i... (Read the rest)
Posted by: rahbm Posted on: 06/28/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
We already knew this  jacarter3 | 06/01/07
Just Microsoft?  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
Introducing Ultra Sesnitive Lad....not much in the super powers  Laff | 06/01/07
But xuniL_z has a point  GuidingLight | 06/01/07
Still not sure how this got into an Apple VS MS thing....  Laff | 06/01/07
You are the sensitive lad, be it more subtle.  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
What are you talking about?  Logics | 06/01/07
Inroducing Pagan Man.  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
Not sensitive?  zkiwi | 06/01/07
Well, in some ways of course.  xuniL_z | 06/04/07
Get a life  jacarter3 | 06/01/07
Carter  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
And Just Who . . . .  JLHenry | 06/02/07
HAHAHAHA!!!!  crash89 | 06/01/07
If he had compared to OS X Tiger  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
Whatever...  crash89 | 06/01/07
Whatever....?  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
My bad  crash89 | 06/02/07
And you've been privy to Leopards performance?  Laff | 06/01/07
No Jim.....i wasn't being serious man.  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
Took the words out of my mouth  JJ Brannon | 06/01/07
Give Thunderbird a try (NT)  Stuka | 06/01/07
I did.  JJ Brannon | 06/01/07
Hilarious?  eljay001 | 06/01/07
Message has been deleted.  ballmerrules@... | 06/01/07
What kind of a link is this? Spam?  xuniL_z | 06/01/07
Why did they not test it against a new Mac?  GuidingLight | 06/01/07
Everyone (with a brain) is asking the same question.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 06/01/07
No, they are not..  Patrick Jones | 06/01/07
Better to test against the market leader  tic swayback | 06/01/07
Well  Stuka | 06/01/07
I disagree with your assesment  GuidingLight | 06/01/07
I disagree with your lame disagreement.  jacarter3 | 06/01/07
I disagree with your lame disagreement of a Lame Disagreement wink  JLHenry | 06/02/07
Atari ST and Amiga - GEM OS  jacarter3 | 06/04/07
Ya know, thats great!  John Zern | 06/02/07
No John, that's not my point  jacarter3 | 06/04/07
Also  woot! | 06/04/07
Sweet  James T. Kirk | 06/01/07
Worthless  bmgoodman | 06/01/07
What part of "For Fun" are you having problems with? ;( [nt]  JLHenry | 06/02/07
Buddy's PERFECTLY HAPPY with his...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 06/01/07
what some guys do to get a few page hits  zzz1234567890 | 06/01/07
But an old 386 running ControlView on DOS could!  GrimmReaperSound | 06/01/07
Lame duck award.  Been_Done_Before | 06/01/07
The point of the article...  GrimmReaperSound | 06/01/07
Nice to see someone get the point  tic swayback | 06/01/07
One person's bloat is another's feature?  eljay001 | 06/01/07
Features sell  tic swayback | 06/01/07
What exactly are you expecting from copy/paste and search/replace?  eljay001 | 06/01/07
So...how would you compare them?  GrimmReaperSound | 06/01/07
Maybe you don't know how to use a modern computer...  eljay001 | 06/04/07
I would agree if video cards had not advanced so much  GuidingLight | 06/01/07
AutoCAD Redraws and Regens  jacarter3 | 06/04/07
Even from a productivity standpoint...  DevGuy_z | 06/01/07
But are you getting more work done?  GrimmReaperSound | 06/01/07
It's easier on the developers to do higher-level languages  georgeou | 06/01/07
Excellent points  georgeou | 06/01/07
Remove the AV package and rerun the tests.  osreinstall | 06/02/07
we are burning more energy per capita "  JLHenry | 06/02/07
Hey, the rest of the post was pretty good also.  osreinstall | 06/04/07
RAM or HDD?  freitasm@... | 06/01/07
yes, but not back then...  rahbm | 06/28/08
Don't agree  DevGuy_z | 06/01/07
DOS was faster than MacOS  hickum | 06/01/07
paigessii  paigessii@... | 06/02/07
Cool. So those Pixar animators ought to use 21 year old technology, then?  HypnoToad72 | 06/02/07
They did with with an Amiga too  Roger Ramjet | 06/02/07
Great idea...  theArk0s | 06/02/07
"since that's all 1986 computers could do" . . .  jlhenry62 | 06/03/07
In 1986, my Compaq Portable Plus could  jacarter3 | 06/04/07
apples and oranges, but still...  Bitboy | 06/04/07
All new computers are bloated.  MacGeek2121 | 06/04/07
hard drive performance bottleneck?  danwat1234 | 06/04/07

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