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July 18th, 2007

Intel quarter hints at AMD trainwreck

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 7:03 am

Categories: AMD, General, Hardware Infrastructure, Intel

Tags: Pricing Strategy, Advanced Micro Devices Inc., Intel Corp., Larry Dignan

Following Intel’s decent–but not good enough to make Wall Street happy–second quarter it seems to be a good bet that AMD’s financial results will be a debacle.

We’ll know Thursday when AMD reports its second quarter earnings, but Intel is willing to suffer self-inflicted wounds on the chip pricing front. And if Intel is dinged AMD may really get whacked. According to Thomson Financial Wall Street isn’t expecting much from AMD anyway–the company is expected to report a loss of 85 cents a share on revenue of $1.25 billion.

Intel’s quarter was in line with estimates, but the big takeaway was that gross margin was 46.9 percent, below Wall Street expectations.

On last night’s earnings conference call, Intel CEO Paul Otellini noted that chip pricing was tough. Otellini said:

“It was a more competitive pricing environment than we thought in Q2, and we expect it to continue to be somewhat competitive which is what you’re seeing in our margin outlook for the year. We believe the best defense against the competitive price environment is better product.”

When asked about the pricing pressure Otellini added: “It is much more targeted now at the low end of the desktop and even a little bit of the notebook marketplace, and a year ago it was higher in the stacks in many areas.”

He should have just said that AMD isn’t giving up market share easily even though the two rivals are headed in opposite directions.

Intel analysts appear mixed on the quarter. Some analysts say AMD is fighting back with lower prices. Others think Intel’s margins will improve as it thumps AMD some more. Others note that Intel’s game plan is unsustainable and part of the problem is bloated inventory. (See all AMD and Intel resources).

One of the more notable comments came from Merrill Lynch analyst Joe Osha:

Intel’s second quarter looks like it was a fire sale. As the company has sought to keep competitive pressure on AMD, keep its own fabs loaded and stay on its process technology roadmap, the result has been chronic overproduction. The company’s explanations regarding its gross margin seem to grow more complex every quarter, and yesterday was not exception. We’re not interested - the basic fact remains that in the fourth quarter of 2005, Intel finished the quarter with $10.2 billion in revenue and $3.1 billion in inventory. By the first quarter of 2007, Intel was at $8.9 billion in revenue and $4.4 billion in inventory. Intel is too big for the market opportunity that’s available to it.

Osha continued:

That situation is unsustainable, and Intel appears to have responded during the second quarter by increasing its efforts to put volume into the market, even at the expense of pricing. Intel’s management characterized the pricing environment in low-end products as weak, but we think a big part of that weakness was caused by Intel leaning on the market. We note that our model shows Q2 units up by 1%, which is unseasonally strong. Intel’s strategy seems to have worked – inventories dropped in both dollar and days terms – and also had the added benefit of putting more pressure on AMD. We expect AMD’s Q2 results to show the impact of Intel’s actions.

What’s truly a drag about this Intel outlook is that the PC market looks pretty healthy in spite of usual seasonal patterns. But a pricing war may mean that neither Intel nor AMD make as much money as they could.

In any case, AMD won’t give up market share to Intel quietly. AMD seems to be matching any race to the pricing bottom. And that means AMD is likely to post some ugly results on Thursday.

Larry DignanLarry Dignan is Editor in Chief of ZDNet and Editorial Director of ZDNet sister site TechRepublic. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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  • Talkback
  • Most Recent of 29 Talkback(s)
Amazing...
still predicting the fall of AMD. One would think that after being wrong enough times you might finally give up the religious crusade and accept that Intel has competition that's not going anywhere. As much as you'd like to see a Wintel only world, it's never going to happen. Here's your sign.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: jasonp@... Posted on: 07/19/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Ya gotta love a scrappy competitor that has give us so much.  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Not if they price themselves out of busniess.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
The brand name and IP are worth money on their own  odubtaig | 07/18/07
Worth maybe 5 cents on the dollar.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
I suppose ATI's 26% market share is worthless too?  odubtaig | 07/18/07
AMD has done VERY well, considering their competitor with deep pockets and  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Done well? Have you seen  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
Considering that Intel started with a virtual monoply, and is able to  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Amazing...  jasonp@... | 07/19/07
I smell some anti competitive behavior  Linux Geek | 07/18/07
What monopoly? AMD is still here?  DevGuy_z | 07/18/07
Even if Intel is not legally considered a monopoly, the still have HUGE  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
So what you are saying that...  lenohere | 07/18/07
You need a little bit of Business 101. The little companies rarely have the  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Say what???  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
Intel can afford to dump processors at cost, or even some below cost, to  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
No, they can not and do not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
Intel is putting one heck of a squeeze on AMD right now with pricing.  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Shut up, f.... no wait....  James T. Kirk | 07/18/07
Even monopolies can not set prices at any level. And, NO, Intel does NOT  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
You are wrong..  lenohere | 07/18/07
And, if it were not for AMD, Intel would be setting those prices a lot  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
I hope you're right about AMD staying around...  James T. Kirk | 07/18/07
Hey!! Great to have something we can agree on!!  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Very good point. The competition has been great for everybody, even Intel  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Your silliness is astounding.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 07/18/07
So, you think we would have this low of prices and this good of performance  DonnieBoy | 07/18/07
Some areas on life are just a natural monopoly  mrjonno | 07/19/07
It does not matter the industry. Without competition, innovation stagnates,  DonnieBoy | 07/19/07

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