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October 26th, 2007

Office and Vista: Can't we give Microsoft some props?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:46 am

Categories: General, Microsoft, Software Infrastructure

Tags: Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Corp., Sales, Matt, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Office, Operating Systems, Microsoft Windows, Software

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Microsoft posts its best fiscal first quarter in years and Wall Street cheers. But the angst goes on.

  • Derrick Shields at SeekingAlpha asks how can Microsoft stay competitive. The common refrain: The days of Office and Vista are numbered. We’ve heard this before–repeatedly for a decade. Wake me up when these units combined only make about say about $2 billion combined. In the first quarter (Techmeme) the client division (Vista, XP) and business division (Office) had combined operating earnings of $6.05 billion.
  • Ben Worthen at the WSJ.com’s Business Technology blog notes that corporate IT departments are funding Microsoft’s Google chase. The argument: Microsoft’s enterprise sales are driving the software giant’s quest to become an advertising juggernaut. You don’t say. Call me crazy but didn’t Office and Windows fund a bunch of new ventures like SQL, Silverlight, Sharepoint and Xbox? If you have a cash cow you milk it to find new growth.
  • Matt Asay at CNET’s Open Road blog wonders why open source hasn’t put a dent into Microsoft. Matt asks: Who wins in the stand-off between open source and proprietary software? And when? My answers: No one wins the stand off since it’s not a zero sum game. As for the when: Much longer than anyone can imagine.

Simply put, a lot of folks spend so much time bitching about Vista and Office that they overlook one key point: Folks are buying this stuff.

On Microsoft’s earnings conference call CFO Christopher Liddell said:

Clearly we are very happy with the client division overall. As you’ve seen since we launched Vista, the revenue growth has been in excess of 20% three quarters in a row, so the overall [headline] number, very good.

In terms of the premium mix, also very happy about that. Now, in this case, premium mix brings in both Vista and XP premium sales as well, and that’s tracking in the mid-70s, so 75% for the quarter, and that compares to I believe 59% in the equivalent quarter last year, so up 16 points year over year. So we’re very happy with the adoption of Vista Premium and also happy with the old XP Media sales as well.

The other thing I’ll point to is on the client annuity agreements, which is probably the best leading indicator we can think of of people’s intention to adopt, that’s still very early in the adoption cycle for businesses, but the volume licensing portion of our business was up 27% in the client area, so that’s a very good leading indicator from our point of view.

And sort of finally, as a wrapper, year-to-date sales are now 85 million units for Vista. That compares to about 45 million for XP over the same period, so almost twice as much.

It was a similar song and dance for Office.

At some juncture Windows and Office will naturally reach the end of their dominance, but don’t hold your breath. And by time Windows and Office lose their mojo they will have funded a bunch of new businesses that may surprisingly pick up the slack.

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That's just crazy talk Larry  RustyShackleford | 10/26/07
Simply put  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/26/07
How many are now buying computers...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
apples and pears  tombalablomba | 10/26/07
Good to agree.  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
my reasoning  tombalablomba | 10/26/07
Another thing to consider  Michael Kelly | 10/26/07
Well...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Of course, that COULD mean....  handydan918 | 10/29/07
Most likely - virtually nil  j.m.galvin | 10/26/07
Remember last Christmas?  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Christmas 06  j.m.galvin | 10/26/07
Did Microsoft hype Vista early and often?  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Money, greed, cash-piles  Mikael_z | 10/27/07
#3  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/07
HAHAHA  Dave32265 | 10/29/07
Simply put it's simple ignorance  i8thecat | 10/28/07
More simply put  xuniL_z | 10/29/07
Yep they are buying it for now...  ja4509 | 10/30/07
Of course you would hate  xuniL_z | 10/30/07
Inertia. Inertia. Inertia.  Userama | 10/26/07
sure  crypt2121 | 10/26/07
"... most responsible for IBM's fall"...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
"humble arrogance" is even better  crypt2121 | 10/26/07
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IBM wasn't found guilty of anti-trust violations...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
Huh?  ego.sum.stig@... | 10/26/07
When Mr. Gertner was hired...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
As Microsoft proves, ya gotta stay humble to win big  Ole Man | 10/26/07
Please explain  Update victim | 10/29/07
You mean the sarcasm didn't hit you?  Ole Man | 10/29/07
YES and NO  Update victim | 10/29/07
A little. But it would be great if some $900 worth of software...  BitTwiddler | 10/26/07
Huh- 300 Maybe 900? Don't shop with me...  ItsTheBottomLine | 10/26/07
Props?  jgt10@... | 10/26/07
Folks buy a PC. They don't buy Vista.  nomoremicrosoft | 10/26/07
See: SILLY POSTS below. (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Hey Apple had their shot and blew it...  ItsTheBottomLine | 10/26/07
Apple is NeXT and is doing well.  Resuna | 10/26/07
re: Folks buy a PC. They don't buy Vista.  M.R. Kennedy | 10/27/07
I don't see why not  Glados | 10/26/07
Silly posts....  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
You're right, but...  Anton Philidor | 10/26/07
But that and instant salesmen when  ItsTheBottomLine | 10/26/07
What i would like to see  tombalablomba | 10/26/07
Simple  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
That still  tombalablomba | 10/26/07
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Not a chance.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Now that's freaking hilarious  frgough | 10/26/07
Laugh if you want, doesn't change anything.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Humm sounds like you guys hire crap then...or  ItsTheBottomLine | 10/26/07
Make up your mind...  jasonp@... | 10/26/07
I see your confusion.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Almost...  jasonp@... | 10/27/07
Been unemployed for a while, have you?  B.O.F.H. | 10/27/07
Corporate IT folks know their options and CHOOSE Microsoft.  Userama | 10/26/07
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Except that their ERP vendor...  jasonp@... | 10/26/07
Sort of  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Or the millions of dollars...  jasonp@... | 10/27/07
Actually not true, but the Cupertino comment  ItsTheBottomLine | 10/26/07
Better word choice  frgough | 10/26/07
Well you got one right...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
And the reason businesses want Microsoft is...  Userama | 10/26/07
Bingo...  jasonp@... | 10/26/07
Naw...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Again the facts don't agree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
yup ...  zoroaster | 10/26/07
Check your 'facts'  drorharari | 10/27/07
Check your market choices.  osreinstall | 10/28/07
I don't believe that Vista is selling well.  Resuna | 10/26/07
I think you need to read the numbers again  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Segment Revenue and Operating Income / (Loss)  B.O.F.H. | 10/26/07
Popularity versus quality  davidr69 | 10/26/07
The finall test is ALWAYS what users choose.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/26/07
Careful how you use the term Quality  NonZealot | 10/26/07
Wow, obsess much?  msalzberg | 10/26/07
No Props for the Propless  DaffyDuck | 10/26/07
Revolutionary?  Serpamac | 10/26/07
Best Quarter?  bigpicture | 10/26/07
dollar drop in value means sales should be 4% up for microsoft to start wit  stevey_d | 10/27/07
Deferred Income, Vista and Office made to look bigger than they were  stevey_d | 10/26/07
So how should it be counted?  NonZealot | 10/26/07
they can't CHOOSE XP or Ubuntu or whatever  stevey_d | 10/27/07
re: they can't CHOOSE XP or Ubuntu or whatever  M.R. Kennedy | 10/27/07
hey I just realised you missed the main point - deferred income  stevey_d | 10/27/07
That was two quarters ago. . .  Ambivi | 10/26/07
So in analysis of the figures the reporter should take this into account,  stevey_d | 10/26/07
NO, because it would be irrelevant!  Ambivi | 10/27/07
the numbers are cooked  stevey_d | 10/27/07
...because you said so? Sorry, I prefer actual evidence. . .  Ambivi | 10/27/07
Haven't looked at the Fins but give props for Office  JoeysLapTop | 10/26/07
RE: Office and Vista: Can't we give Microsoft some props?  SirCatlord | 10/27/07
Macroshaft is here to stay !!!  mrdood_99205@... | 10/27/07
Excuse me while I park my Winnebago up wind of the bs Larry.  WinnebagoBoy | 10/27/07
clarification to my formula above  WinnebagoBoy | 10/27/07
Here's The Real Deal  itanalyst | 10/27/07
give Microsoft some props?  Ole Man | 10/27/07
Ooooh, Ouch!  JoeysLapTop | 10/28/07
pirated copies of Linux and Open Office  jogiba@... | 10/28/07
I so agree with you on this!  B.O.F.H. | 10/28/07
Linux was years behind Windows 10 years ago  Ole Man | 10/28/07
Irrelevant...  NJDevils1087 | 10/28/07
Irrelevant...? I think not!  Ole Man | 10/28/07
Pirated Linux??????  Dave32265 | 10/29/07
You're half right.  notsofast | 10/29/07
LOL  Dave32265 | 10/29/07
A pithy response:  HypnoToad72 | 10/28/07
You could make the same case for Enron  Chad_z | 10/28/07
Get a life!  cadstarsucks | 10/29/07
Yes, and here's why  sysop-dr | 10/29/07
Great post!  Ole Man | 10/29/07
Berating  laura.b | 10/31/07
My intention was not to respond  Ole Man | 10/31/07
I hope their days are numbered...Get Linux  mikifinaz1@... | 10/29/07
RE: Office and Vista: Can't we give Microsoft some props?  lazarus@... | 10/29/07
RE: Office and Vista: Can't we give Microsoft some props?  dsolodon | 10/30/07
RE: Office and Vista: Can't we give Microsoft some props?  Doctor Neutron | 10/30/07
Excel  laura.b | 10/31/07
Isn't one of the bragging points about Windows?  Ole Man | 10/31/07
Oh, where to begin  laura.b | 11/01/07
No need to begin  Ole Man | 11/03/07

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