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December 6th, 2007

XP on OLPC: Microsoft's gambit to stay in the emerging market conversation

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 6:30 am

Categories: General, Government, Hardware Infrastructure, Linux, Microsoft, Open Source, Personal Technology

Tags: Emerging Market, Microsoft Corp., One Laptop Per Child Project, XO, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows XP, Operating Systems, Software, Larry Dignan

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Windows XP may come to the One Laptop Per Child project as Microsoft ports its operating system to flash-baxp.jpgsed devices such as Intel’s Classmate PC, ASUS Eee PC and the XO laptop. But Microsoft’s big motive is to stay relevant in emerging markets where officials are increasingly mulling over Linux-based devices.

There’s no reason to bash Microsoft’s Unlimited Potential program, which aims to bring technology “to the next 5 billion people.” However, it’s really difficult not to read between the lines on this XP meets OLPC development.

Let’s weigh the different factors based on Microsoft’s official statement, its comments about porting XP and coverage from Mary Jo Foley, Ina Fried and Techmeme chatter.

Exhibit A:

From Microsoft’s statement:

“Microsoft plans to publish formal design guidelines early next year that will assist flash-based device manufacturers in designing machines that enable a high-quality Windows experience. In addition, there will be limited field trials in January 2008 of Windows XP for One Laptop per Child’s XO laptop. Microsoft’s goal is to provide a high-quality Windows experience on the XO device; if this is achieved, then Windows XP for the XO could be available as early as the second half of 2008.”

What Microsoft is really saying: Memo to emerging markets: Put Windows on the radar if you are mulling over the purchase of a Linux based device. At least Microsoft isn’t shy about it: “Governments evaluating purchases of the XO should continue to consult with Microsoft regarding possible Windows XP availability date, pricing and support policies.” This statement gets at what the Mandriva CEO was whining about in November. Microsoft’s message: Wait for us. Don’t do anything drastic–like use Linux.

Exhibit B:

From Microsoft’s blog post where it outlines some of the difficulties porting XP to a flash based device:

“We have not announced formal plans to support the XO yet, and we will not do so until after we start getting feedback from our first limited field trials starting in January before we make the final call. We do not want to set expectations we subsequently cannot meet, especially when it comes to supporting the children’s machine. For governments in emerging markets evaluating purchases of Windows for the XO, this means that so far we are not announcing an availability date, pricing, or support policies. In fact, you should not yet assume that Windows on the XO is a done deal. We are hopeful that we will have a different story for you within six months.”

What Microsoft is really saying: Again, no rush folks. You can hold off that Linux love affair for six months right. Another thread: Nicholas Negroponte jumped the gun with his XP on the XO riff.

 

 

Exhibit C:

From Microsoft’s blog post:

“If you are in the US and Canada and are participating in the “Give One Get One” program, you need to understand that Microsoft is not currently planning to support a retail consumer release of Windows XP on your XO computer.”

What Microsoft is really saying: Do you really think that we would kill demand for Vista and other laptops by selling a inexpensive XP computer?

 

Exhibit D:

From the blog post:

“The XO computer uses flash memory instead of a hard disk drive for storage. This is one of the reasons OLPC can get the production cost of the computer down to $188. This is a relatively new class of machine, and we have to do design work to get Windows and Office to work reliably and with good performance using only 2 GB of storage. The XO actually only comes with 1GB of flash, and we asked the OLPC to add a slot for an internal SD card that will provide the 2 GB of extra memory needed to run our software. (By comparison, an entry level $499 Dell laptop comes with 60 GB of hard disk storage.) The potential payoff for students and schools from this work, of course, is that the tens of thousands of existing educational applications written for Windows can potentially run on the XO.”

What Microsoft is really saying: We are dangling the big payoff–a ton of educational programs–if you’ll wait a bit. However, we need to go on a serious diet (that’s what New Year’s resolutions are for) and want to complicate things with an SD card slot. And we’ll be swell and give away XP to get the price down.

Exhibit E:

From the blog post:

“Microsoft plans to publish some formal design guidelines early next year that will help Flash PC manufacturers benefit from our early work so they can design machines that enable a great Windows experience at as low a cost as possible, and with a minimum of custom design work necessary to get Windows to run on their machines, such as we have encountered with the XO.”

What Microsoft is really saying: We have a runaway train with these flash devices. If these toys ever get serious traction Windows could face a shutout.

Exhibit F:

From the blog post:

“We have a different support model than OLPC is envisioning: we are not expecting K-6 school children to access the source code and do their own programming in the event they have to fix a problem in the computer. Certainly, we think there is a role for students in the support of school computers — in fact, as part of our Partners in Learning program we have trained over a million kids in a student helpdesk program (like in this case study from Brazil) — but we also think that local entrepreneurs and businesses need to play an important role here when you are talking about deployments involving tens of thousands of computers.”

What Microsoft is really saying: And if these entrepreneurs and business play a support role they can also sell more Microsoft products in the future.

 

Exhibit G:

From the blog post:

“Finally, we are doing this engineering work for a moving target. It is literally like designing parts of a car – well, actually a school bus — while it is running down the highway at a high speed. I am not meaning this as a knock on the OLPC organization, because they are a small group of people doing an amazing amount of innovative design work in a short period of time. But we have only received a handful of machines for most of the last year, and the XO team was doing some hardware design changes as recently as this past August. This affects our schedule.

Much of the technology in the XO is developed using open source technology licenses that make it difficult for engineers employed by commercial software companies like Microsoft to work directly on the project. For this reason, we also had to follow a complicated process to figure out interfaces for many of the XO’s hardware components and to deal with some of the hardware bugs they were reporting in their design process in order to make progress on our port. All of this slows us down, but that’s OK given our overall shared mission here.”

What Microsoft is really saying: Ha! Think those open source folks bought that one? But we aren’t knocking the OLPC project. Why pick on them when it’s really the open source folks that are batty. Those damn licenses are a pain. But that’s OK. Really, it is. What? Why are you glaring at me? It’s really OK. Microsoft loves open source. Shared mission and all. Right?!?

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Remember back a few months ago when MS was talking about a smaller kernal?
I'll bet that with a little work MS can put Windows XP Embedded on OLPC next week. I can fit most of XP Embedded on less than 250 MB of Compact Flash right now! They just want the marketing people an... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Xwindowsjunkie Posted on: 12/22/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
All this work on a deprecated OS?  TripleII | 12/06/07
Given the proliferation of low cost and mobile computers, MS went the wrong  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
What OS has no future?  Resuna | 12/06/07
XP has no future  TripleII | 12/06/07
Vista too bloated  Greenknight_z | 12/07/07
Microsoft wouldn't touch OLPC...  bjbrock | 12/06/07
Well, MS did not want cheap durable laptops to be available to developing  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Oh, Now you know what they were privately thinking?  GuidingLight | 12/06/07
It's easy to know what they think.  bjbrock | 12/06/07
It does not offend it stinks  ja4509 | 12/06/07
Free?  balaknair | 12/07/07
Bill Gates on OLPC  yahoopostoffice-two@... | 12/09/07
Hmmm! Not sure...  JCitizen | 12/10/07
fa shizzle  battlesound | 12/06/07
National security issues / Religious, national, ethnic pride  Rick_R | 12/06/07
And, George Bush may be doing more than anybody else to get governments  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Kind of Wonderful, just wish he'd do it here. (NT)  Update victim | 12/06/07
Xp on Asus EEE PC  croberts | 12/06/07
Mandriva/PCLinuxOS  TripleII | 12/06/07
MS tying themselves in knots  Chad_z | 12/06/07
Right on, Chad_z:  OButterball | 12/06/07
MS is using monopoly tactics again ...  MisterMiester | 12/06/07
You hit it on the nead.  Update victim | 12/06/07
I get the feeling M$ is running scared...  JCitizen | 12/06/07
Monopoly Tactics  misceng | 12/07/07
Activation ??? H*** NO.  Update victim | 12/06/07
That's hillarious  battlesound | 12/06/07
Microsoft wants XP because...  bjbrock | 12/06/07
you're on to something  ws3d | 12/06/07
MS and small devices  chromeronin | 12/06/07
It is funny to watch them squirm. MS really does NOT want countries  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
duh...  craig-wilson@... | 12/06/07
And, that is the problem for MS. When poor countries need millions of  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
With the rapid drop in SD card prices...  JCitizen | 12/06/07
But, it will still be cheaper to just put more flash on the motherboard. An  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Ironically it was Bill Gates that made that feature..  JCitizen | 12/06/07
Your right! And think what will happen to the  ja4509 | 12/06/07
Check out the Walmart $200 Linux PC.  Update victim | 12/06/07
Yup, good old fashioned competition.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/06/07
More like a big "oh sheeeet" from Microsoft. They were hoping the OLPC  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
MS audition for Dancing with the Stars?  Chad_z | 12/06/07
Naw, that's just one little  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/06/07
Well, still funny to wath them jump to action here after years of  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Microsoft doesn't make PCs.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/06/07
Microsoft IS now in the hardware business, XBox, Surface PC are a couple of  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Seriously, to meet the need, they would have to ...  JCitizen | 12/06/07
There is nothing stopping MS from getting in the special purpose hardware  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
I think the whole reality for Microsoft in this developement..  JCitizen | 12/06/07
ROTFLMAO You Win Stupid Post Of The Day!  itanalyst | 12/06/07
This time they may get hit with ANTI-DUMPING LAWS (NT)  Update victim | 12/06/07
i.e. Anti trust (NT)  JCitizen | 12/06/07
They can adapt in wealthy markets only.  bjbrock | 12/06/07
competition != FUD  Linux Geek | 12/06/07
I hope the project leaders are smarter than that.  JCitizen | 12/06/07
Suddenly all of the MS Shills . . .  critic-at-arms | 12/06/07
Re:  Vadim P. | 12/06/07
Another thing, this could just be a trick to slow down orders for OLPC. It  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Kinda obvious, isn't it. However I like the SD idea..  JCitizen | 12/06/07
On the SD cards. I would rather see them make one more available externally  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
With 4 and 8 Gb SD card prices dropping...  JCitizen | 12/10/07
that's the effect  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 12/06/07
Yes, and in the grand scheme of things it costs them very little. They  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
...slow down BIG orders is the plan...  battlesound | 12/06/07
This is a GREAT idea! IROC for OSes!  critic-at-arms | 12/06/07
Yes, MS does not like to compete in the free catagory, where they have to  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
But you said they are not allowed  GuidingLight | 12/06/07
It is illegal to give under the table bribes to politicians and suppliers,  DonnieBoy | 12/07/07
But then Mandriva's tech support  GuidingLight | 12/07/07
You have benn SPANKED! (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 12/07/07
You have made a fool of yourself.  DonnieBoy | 12/07/07
Very specious argument  Heatlesssun1 | 12/06/07
Really?  linux for me | 12/06/07
But what about in the home  Heatlesssun1 | 12/06/07
Not true anymore ...  MisterMiester | 12/06/07
Microsoft may have just shot themselves in the foot with  Update victim | 12/06/07
The way they got burned by the Justic Department..  JCitizen | 12/06/07
run Windows Apps on XO laptop  ThinkFair | 12/06/07
Interesting; also, hints of Wii versus PS3 here  paul_wagner@... | 12/06/07
Since there is already a requirement to run...  JCitizen | 12/06/07
RE: XP on OLPC: Microsoft's gambit to stay in the emerging market conversat  Gerald_in_seattle | 12/06/07
The problem for MS, is that you really can not put the base OS on removable  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Earlier versions of Windows  PCcritic | 12/06/07
They couldn't resist the FUD  Robert Crocker | 12/06/07
Hey you're right!  ws3d | 12/06/07
Even if they get XP to run, will the Apps work?  pointzerotwo@... | 12/06/07
Well, Portable Apps would run  PCcritic | 12/06/07
I got a buddy that is still running XP Home on a ..  JCitizen | 12/06/07
HUH? No Vista for OLPC?!?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 12/06/07
Why not Vista on a $200 laptop  woftbo@... | 12/06/07
depends on the audience.  battlesound | 12/06/07
RE: XP on OLPC: Microsoft's gambit to stay in the emerging market conversation  QuietAmerican | 12/06/07
Good points  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 12/06/07
The ship is doing very well right now. The G1G1 program, and the 260,000  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
Too bad Nigeria cancled their 1,000,000;;;  JCitizen | 12/06/07
I beleive Libya did also, and are ordering the classmate instead  GuidingLight | 12/06/07
It will be interesting to see if Intel or Microsoft...  JCitizen | 12/07/07
Why do you assume that?  QuietAmerican | 12/06/07
Don't confuse the Gates...  bjbrock | 12/06/07
And the foundation also ...  MisterMiester | 12/06/07
Thanks for the links!  Ole Man | 12/06/07
Wow, a real eye opener  balaknair | 12/07/07
At least Microsoft was honest as they admitted ...  JCitizen | 12/07/07
The basic question is can you trust the motives of corporations that could  DonnieBoy | 12/06/07
You have to excuse DonnieBoy  GuidingLight | 12/06/07
The issue is, if the company founder creates a foundation, can you then be  DonnieBoy | 12/07/07
Good article - good journalism.  JCitizen | 12/06/07
Feel their pain!  George Mitchell | 12/06/07
Love it!  JCitizen | 12/06/07
Yep, as it is often put  Ole Man | 12/06/07
Education Tool  chromeronin | 12/06/07
This is good journalism...  ja4509 | 12/06/07
Microsoft won't kill XP yet?  Presler | 12/06/07
Microsoft is already working on MinWin. (NT)  JCitizen | 12/07/07
RE: XP on OLPC: Microsoft's gambit to stay in the emerging market conversation  k.filius@... | 12/07/07
Not just that, but Windows 95?  lauren.glenn@... | 12/07/07
The funniest thing was the reference to...  Henrik Moller | 12/07/07
Thanks for the humorous article pointing out the obvious.  dfolk | 12/09/07
Microsoft doesn't like *nix plain and simple  John Musbach | 12/09/07
Untill a "paid for" developer complains...  JCitizen | 12/10/07
Remember back a few months ago when MS was talking about a smaller kernal?  Xwindowsjunkie | 12/22/07

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