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June 16th, 2008

XP era ends: Will Vista step up?

Posted by Larry Dignan @ 10:07 am

Categories: General, Microsoft, Software Infrastructure, Vista

Tags: Developer, Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Windows XP, Operating Systems, Microsoft Windows, Software, Larry Dignan

The Windows XP era ends June 30 and soon hardware vendors will be shipping you all Vista all the time (in most cases). The save XP effort failed. The whining should cease. And now it’s time for Vista to sink or swim.

Ina Fried has a good overview of where Windows XP will stand with PC manufacturers. And Matt Asay highlights a report from Evans Data noting that 92 percent of developers are ignoring Vista. Coupling these two items together and you come to one conclusion: Folks are skeptical about Vista, but a lot of that skepticism is because XP is still lingering.

If you’re a Vista complainer you have two options from here:

  • Move away from Windows completely (users try a new OS and developers jump ship).
  • Or shut up and go with Vista.

My hunch is most folks will do that latter. I’d love to believe that Microsoft’s Vista miscues would result in a mass exodus, but I doubt that will happen. I also wonder why people live in New Jersey and pay those ridiculous property taxes, but shockingly enough people stay. Based on my Libertarian leanings I’d reckon there would be four people left in Jersey by now.

But I digress. Once consumers no longer have the XP option they’ll fall in line with Vista. Sure some percentage will go Mac, but if you didn’t jump yet–after a gazillion brilliant Apple ads knocking Vista–you probably won’t. And the developer worries: Developers will fall in line too. Evans Data notes:

Only eight percent of North American software developers are currently writing applications to run on Microsoft’s Vista operating system, while half are still writing programs for XP, according to Evans Data’s Spring 2008, North American Development Survey. These same developers forecast a fragmented Windows market in 2009 with only 24 percent expecting to target Vista and 29% expecting to continue with XP.

“Developers have taken a wait and see approach to Vista”, said John Andrews, Evans Data’s President and CEO. “The new operating system has had more than its share of problems and the desire to move from XP on the Windows platform is still lagging - that coupled with interest in alternative operating systems is suppressing development activity and that in turn will further erode Vista’s acceptance.”

Also see: Ed Bott, Mary Jo Foley, Adrian Kingsley-Hughes and all resources on Vista.

Should Vista supporters be worried? Probably not. Developers have clearly hedged their bets, but that’s because XP was still being distributed. Once that distribution ends developers will have to step up their efforts on Vista. Corporations will complain but still roll out Vista. There’s a reason Microsoft cuts off previous versions of Windows–it works. And it’ll probably work this time too.

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what programs?  markofkane | 06/16/08
I know people who have run these programs without problem...  ye | 06/16/08
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"Might now don't know"?  ye | 06/16/08
Vista's DRM  lyndaj70@... | 06/18/08
3 gigs  wil2liv | 06/16/08
You're paying $500 for an OS?  ye | 06/16/08
Re: You're paying $500 for an OS?  wil2liv | 06/16/08
The smart ones...  dansen926 | 06/16/08
It's never been $500. You have ZERO credibility. (nt)  ye | 06/16/08
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Open Office is a good alternative to MS office  jvin248 | 06/16/08
Open Office  stewarth@... | 06/17/08
conversely  rtk | 06/16/08
learn about x86 vs x64  rtk | 06/16/08
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3? get real dude!  zenwalker | 06/16/08
Gads...  jskline0@... | 06/16/08
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They shouldn't upgrade at all.  ye | 06/16/08
Why shouldn't they???  storm14k | 06/16/08
@storm14k: You didn't answer my question:  ye | 06/16/08
@ye: You made my case for me...  storm14k | 06/16/08
@storm14k: Did I say people should upgrade to Vista?  ye | 06/16/08
The Problem is ...  daengbo | 06/16/08
They shouldn't have a computer then...  storm14k | 06/16/08
That's a different argument.  ye | 06/16/08
To Storm14K  daengbo | 06/17/08
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Ye, seriously - No!  Zogg | 06/17/08
@storm14k: Don't pretend your scenario is representative...  ye | 06/17/08
@Zogg: The question is: Why upgrade?  ye | 06/17/08
There are none so deaf as those who will not hear.  Zogg | 06/17/08
@Zogg: You didn't answer the question.  ye | 06/17/08
Yes, yes, as expected.  Zogg | 06/17/08
@Zogg: What example are you referring to?  ye | 06/17/08
Desperate? No, just honest.  Zogg | 06/18/08
Why upgrade the OS if your hardware will not run it?  willpd13 | 06/18/08
@Zogg: Windows 95 era hardware is desperation.  ye | 06/18/08
Same old ye.  Zogg | 06/18/08
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I'm the same old ye  Ole Man | 06/19/08
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Why not more RAM????  Narg | 06/18/08
4 GB? Really?  rogerbro@... | 06/17/08
install 64 bit Vista  balsover | 06/17/08
Perhaps the difference is...  ye | 06/16/08
That's another reason why people aren't upgrading .  Intellihence | 06/16/08
umm.  rtk | 06/17/08
I know I shouldn't feed the trolls... But...  Wolfie2K3 | 06/17/08
You are correct.  Crestview | 06/16/08
re: Vista being a Ram Hog  gwzap2008 | 06/16/08
I like it how...  dansen926 | 06/16/08
Crapware  adinas | 06/16/08
One thing to consider...  cornpie | 06/16/08
Blame Toshiba, not Vista  Snagglegaster-19929872174467528481394836508114 | 06/16/08
Your drivers  beoz | 06/16/08
Stop and think what you did....  zenwalker | 06/16/08
Vista is a Ram hog  guypr@... | 06/16/08
Agreed  IndianaTux | 06/16/08
It's not about whether it works  Chad_z | 06/16/08
It didn't work on a preinstalled HP  sbf95070 | 06/16/08
HP helping with downgrade?  daniel.powell | 06/16/08
so, let me get this straight.  rtk | 06/16/08
OK I'll Elaborate  daniel.powell | 06/17/08
Specifically which vendors and models.  ye | 06/17/08
To be specific....  daniel.powell | 06/17/08
@daniel.powell: Yes, I want the exact model number.  ye | 06/17/08
@ YE...You're proving my point  daniel.powell | 06/17/08
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@ YE-Wrong system  daniel.powell | 06/17/08
@daniel.powell: I'll wait for the exact model. (nt)  ye | 06/17/08
@daniel.powell: When can I expect you to provide us with...  ye | 06/17/08
@daniel.powell: Will you be posting the model number?  ye | 06/18/08
@ YE....I've been busy  daniel.powell | 06/25/08
Only if you use stand-alone machines  tkepner | 06/16/08
no it doesn't  stevey_d | 06/17/08
Cluetrain for Larry!!!  techboy_z | 06/16/08
and if you're still using Windows 98  Khyron | 06/16/08
You are right!  Keywalker4God | 06/16/08
Do I update to OSX 10.5 or Ubuntu 8.04?  deowll | 06/16/08
yes you can  jtfromstl | 06/16/08
You are correct. PearPC can run OS X on a regular pc.  Intellihence | 06/16/08
HA! Good one Khyron! laugh ....(NT)  JCitizen | 06/16/08
Sad thing is...  storm14k | 06/16/08
exactly, and why should they?  stevey_d | 06/17/08
Hah! Shows what you know!!  techboy_z | 06/17/08
why?  stevey_d | 06/17/08
Just wait until hardware sales slow down...  BitTwiddler | 06/16/08
While I wish your scenario were true...  mrlinux | 06/16/08
Settings...  mmadink | 06/16/08
As a tech person I know I can turn off UAC...  mrlinux | 06/17/08
vista with uac off  rtk | 06/17/08
vista with uac off  rfennimore@... | 06/17/08
pfftt  rtk | 06/17/08
Well here a statement from Microsoft...  mrlinux1@... | 06/17/08
re: Well here a statement from Microsoft...  rtk | 06/17/08
HOW!?!  pgf_666@... | 06/30/08
Linux is just beginning  fr0thy2 | 06/16/08
Whiner  YeaiBetYouDo | 06/16/08
Not a whiner, just cost conscious  kirwood | 06/17/08
Well my response about Vista still sucks...  mrlinux | 06/17/08
Agree!!  BSmall | 06/16/08
Get Linux LiveCD  jvin248 | 06/16/08
Corporate Customers Still do not like XP  topio | 06/16/08
Why would you company upgrade to Vista?  ye | 06/16/08
Because the money isn't there anymore.  Intellihence | 06/16/08
wow, I didn't realize  rtk | 06/16/08
I'm referring to Microsoft users, let's not get it *ucked up now nimrod.  Intellihence | 06/17/08
Apple isn't a BMW  rtk | 06/17/08
Business sense  Q'sDad | 06/16/08
Agree, Institutions and Corporations will hold  dunn@... | 06/16/08
actually i doubt  Khyron | 06/16/08
You said something I don't get.  deowll | 06/16/08
Take a real look at some of the top 500 companies  zenwalker | 06/16/08
ZDNet and Vista  Harry Bardal | 06/16/08
So what is the address  Real World | 06/16/08
unfortunately  Khyron | 06/16/08
Re: unfortunately  TedKraan | 06/17/08
You know....  James T. Kirk | 06/16/08
And when XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  nwoodson@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dan325 | 06/16/08
Specifically why do you hate Vista? (nt)  ye | 06/16/08
More specifically, why do you even care?  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/16/08
Why do you care that I care?  ye | 06/16/08
Wrong  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/16/08
It really bothers you that Vista is outselling everything else.  ye | 06/16/08
Vista does not sell on it's own merits.  Intellihence | 06/16/08
@ starving leopard  rtk | 06/16/08
Grow up?  markofkane | 06/16/08
Vista outsells everything else?  RTWN | 06/16/08
ho hum  atari8bit@... | 06/18/08
I hate Vista.  Intellihence | 06/16/08
Why I hate Vista!  cne@... | 06/16/08
Then you're a poor manager.  ye | 06/16/08
Can I shake your hand?  mellis@... | 06/16/08
I don't think an IT director is this ignorant  deowll | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  null | 06/16/08
For many there is a third choice  chrome_slinky@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bananatwinkie | 06/16/08
XP is  Keywalker4God | 06/16/08
Whine, whine, whine  wolf_z | 06/16/08
Lol.  magallanes | 06/16/08
You Forgot ...  Snagglegaster-19929872174467528481394836508114 | 06/16/08
Message has been deleted.  Ole Man | 06/16/08
I'll wait  rcander@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  tomp_z | 06/16/08
You don't want to learn something new but you'll switch to Linux?  ye | 06/16/08
Think carefully...  nwoodson@... | 06/16/08
So he's been around since CP/M. And?  ye | 06/16/08
Cut off what support?  deowll | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wilhite@... | 06/16/08
Specifically how is it slow and glitchy?  ye | 06/16/08
Vista is slow and glitchy on mine too  dilbert@... | 06/16/08
How is it slow and glitchy? (nt)  ye | 06/16/08
Glitchey  dilbert@... | 06/16/08
I've experienced none of those issue. So I would recommend...  ye | 06/16/08
well...  sfazly | 06/16/08
@sfazly: I don't have to do that in Vista either:  ye | 06/16/08
Can't wait to hear Ye on this one  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/16/08
Doesn't matter to ye  MacCanuck | 06/17/08
Why is Vista such a hog?  dilbert@... | 07/08/08
That will fix it.  deowll | 06/16/08
Still in Jersey, but just left Windows  hatster | 06/16/08
Still in Maryland and left Windows  steinhorn@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jmclarty@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  MeezerW | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  pchts | 06/16/08
You mean like...  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 06/16/08
This person has the right idea... Buy A Mac  JohnMelone@... | 06/16/08
agreed  sfazly | 06/16/08
$599 is fine with me.  deowll | 06/16/08
You can use your old monitor with it.  Intellihence | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jed.gart@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wayne@... | 06/16/08
XP ends... the despot says  rcdorner@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ronatforest@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wgg | 06/16/08
XP dead in retail? Maybe not  graywz | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  zdoktor@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dm@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wayne@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  terrym0021 | 06/16/08
So don't upgrade on those boxes  mswift@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dm@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  scadapro | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Noprisoners | 06/16/08
XP Pro (2) now, No Vista in My Future....  dunn@... | 06/16/08
The whining should end?  Esse Quam Videri | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  GuardianBob | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  BillGates_z | 06/16/08
Irrelevant.  Dr_Zinj | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  harveyjohnson | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  grah4321 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will I move to Vista?  Wolf_Spyder | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  MacGeek2121 | 06/16/08
Plug it in  levinson | 06/16/08
Maybe it's time for a Mac???  rmickey@... | 06/16/08
NooooOOOOOO!  sfazly | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  johnbaird@... | 06/16/08
Snow  levinson | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rweiner@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  writerbob | 06/16/08
Large corporate users are where the rubber meets the road  sduraybito | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  MeezerW | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  alienvisitor@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Keywalker4God | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wodahs1 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  howard@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mickrussom@... | 06/16/08
Will u$oft survive?  sborsher | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  marcad.44.1965 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  david@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  VitaSigns_CSI@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  JPS_z | 06/16/08
Vista is great  lovkvist@... | 06/16/08
couldn't agree more, but..  sfazly | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  labarker | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  NewMac1 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Pyrotech_z | 06/16/08
security is fine but  markofkane | 06/16/08
Vista  dwesner7675@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dyearsley@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rsantan2@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  michael@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jbarh | 06/16/08
Free Software, please.  lefty.crupps | 06/16/08
Yawn  mikeholli | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jimrogers | 06/16/08
Already moved on....  PowerMacSC | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: But not on eMule P2P  GreatInca | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  walterbenoit@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Janl.99 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bb1040 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mudmonster@... | 06/16/08
come on folks... bigger problems in the world  rcpr@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  debbert | 06/16/08
Don't use Vista  richdave | 06/16/08
M$$$$$ can keep Windows Victim (aka Vista)  lkarnis@... | 06/16/08
No way  Crestview | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  vicsflick | 06/16/08
I have not seen SP3 problems yet  Crestview | 06/16/08
RE: What if using Vista is not a choice?  newmangw | 06/16/08
Upgrading Academia.  mikeholli | 06/17/08
So Microsoft want's us to switch to mac?  Breetai | 06/16/08
I may have to jump ship and move to mac  mschleisner@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Main Street | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  finwizard2 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Millinneumman | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  welderz | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jim@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  button56@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mangler | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  MetalheadD7 | 06/16/08
ROFL here here!!! NT  do it yourself IT | 06/25/08
Thank God For Torrents,lol  testing1,2,3 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  sarai1313@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ramnet@... | 06/16/08
The numbers don't add up ...  mwagner@... | 06/16/08
I don't need Vista  batia | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rencorp@... | 06/16/08
XP RULES SORRY VISTA NO WAY.....  carlsf@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  davidde@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  joel@... | 06/16/08
One OS/X Leopard, One Ubantu - No Vista  raystaff | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rafarn@... | 06/16/08
Again MS Bad Timing  llsdigitek | 06/16/08
How about $170 instead? Including Vista:  ye | 06/16/08
$170?  sfazly | 06/16/08
Sign. The upgrade to Vista costs $100. Take $270 - $100 and...  ye | 06/16/08
Nope  wolf_z | 06/16/08
That my friend..  sfazly | 06/17/08
What is your point?  ye | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  eternalwytch | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Get a Mac  Karras | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Buzzbuttons | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kelly2509@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  angelon18 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Bifman | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jason.mailley | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wargammer2005 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wargammer2005 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kelly2509@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  sbf95070 | 06/16/08
If it Ain't Broke Don't Fix It  kyriene@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kaastrup | 06/16/08
Vista is great.  thebithead | 06/16/08
Vista look great, but it is no help if I can run my apps!  turbochip | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  sunkist44 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  john.rodgers@... | 06/16/08
I will be very interested to see ...  Ludovit | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jskline0@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  chromeronin | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  DoubleChill | 06/16/08
The next version Classic XP?  bernalillo | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  null | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  h.brewer@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  torbls | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  manny.b | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  sanria956@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mschleisner@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  scyankee562000@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  JLuchford | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dennis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dlp@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  grsplane | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  h.brewer@... | 06/16/08
Already switched! More than three years of Linux - No Vista, No XP, No Mac  jvin248 | 06/16/08
may i ask  sfazly | 06/16/08
Game(s)  TrashyMG | 06/16/08
Linux applications are crapware. No working person would use it...  transposeIT | 06/16/08
Vista is not a Linux application...  storm14k | 06/17/08
RE: Vista HAS stepped up, manufacturers have not.  dansen926 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  F1RST@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  barbwager | 06/16/08
XP forever  ralf_strehle@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  RealOne@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  RealOne@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  george.garrett@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  KingSatan | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  chromeronin | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Baer | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ford.clancy@... | 06/16/08
vista more like shi*sta  sbrown01246@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ccech@... | 06/16/08
All I know is my customers are hedging..  JCitizen | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  deowll | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bdakin@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  williamgraf@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  insidesales | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cchunkc@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  231937 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  magicmanvb@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lthorn@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  boyette.design | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dynabase@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  fleetmechanical@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  boyette.design | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  richardmitnick | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  hankcom49 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  papabear1@... | 06/16/08
That's fine...  mikifinaz1@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  richardmitnick | 06/16/08
The real question is....  DB_z | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Lots of people are unhappy!  alanmcrae@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  noeldonagh@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lcarliner@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  l.m.moseley@... | 06/16/08
Duuuuuuh!  l.m.moseley@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Winbass | 06/16/08
Sad to Start the Vista learning curve.... BUT NECESSARY !  jack.b.woolley@... | 06/16/08
To what end?  DB_z | 06/16/08
/bThere is an old saying......  jack.b.woolley@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kentville | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jodbert | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  n4kim@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  gpreston@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  zeca_sa@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kris777 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jwgebhardt | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mchilson@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up? NOT  cne@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  skipplummer | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cashtime | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Randy.earl@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  DWFRIEND@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  andrebrait | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  catseverywhere@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cne@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  2U0BGE | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mlavoie1956@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Analytical_Chemist | 06/16/08
xp  duncanhw | 06/16/08
RUBBISH! Downgrade rights mean XP lives..  richard.ashford@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  johnsonjohnpat@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  andrewhart13@... | 06/16/08
Watch UMPCs fly out the door.  TripleII | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  machilders@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Ratclif | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  1957chieftain@... | 06/16/08
SOMEONE PLEASE SUE M$  BigDaveDeluxe@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mlavoie1956@... | 06/16/08
Already moved to Ubuntu  jtfromstl | 06/16/08
Welcome  fr0thy2 | 06/16/08
Glad you could join us.  storm14k | 06/16/08
Linux fanatics agreeing among themselves...pathetic  transposeIT | 06/16/08
Let me tell you what reality is...  storm14k | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lmbianchi@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends only when Win7 arrives!  Ratclif | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lbfalgiani@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  KBall1 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  skipplummer | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bobbers630 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  r.myers@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  urbsdad6@... | 06/16/08
Big Girls Blouses  DigitalPenGuy | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  phamer_preston@... | 06/16/08
Larry buys a new car every year  WiredGuy | 06/16/08
LOL  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  adeliae | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mm9696@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  megbr5492@... | 06/16/08
Vista one year later...What's the problem  danielbj2000@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Raedor | 06/16/08
Vista is still not ready for primetime!  pccoder28@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  hhudson@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Raedor | 06/16/08
To the guys running to the Mac.  deowll | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  editorjuno | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  LegendsOfBatman | 06/16/08
I don't care, I'll stay with XP until  Gradius2 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: time for a change  malaske | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mrryman73@... | 06/16/08
So why bother  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/16/08
re: So why bother  SirCatlord | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  SirCatlord | 06/16/08
And when your PC dies  Larry DignanZDNet Moderator | 06/16/08
No Vista Without Reversi  stanton@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dmcnutt | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  anangel13@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  trad_7ladara7@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  psivert@... | 06/16/08
XP era ends: Will Vista step up? he said with a grin on his face  sonoffar@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  diego.pazos@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bh572@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  paulpetrucci@... | 06/16/08
The Link ZDnet Doesn't Want You To Read  chessmen | 06/17/08
Maybe they read the reader comments..  JCitizen | 06/19/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  harold@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jcbastos@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  thomsouza | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dwhogan | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Opossumk | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: What about the legacy apps that cannot be upgraded?  mandrake64 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ikofig@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jfg-online | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Old-Navy | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  paulpetrucci@... | 06/16/08
Switching to a mac  kokuryu | 06/16/08
LET'S ALL HEAR THE SCREAMS  rebelxhardcore | 06/16/08
How about when Security Updates Stop?  jpgeorgia | 06/16/08
Theres nothing wrong with Vista  YeaiBetYouDo | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up? - WHY should the "whining" cease?  dogmo1001 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  haganmp@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  do it yourself IT | 06/16/08
LOL  celisewood@... | 06/16/08
Sorry Larry, I'm Not Going ANYWHERE  itanalyst2@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  1ross@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Watts86301 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  hongkhanhho@... | 06/16/08
Cheaper "upgrade" ...  KBall1 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ahibbert | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  1ross@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  z89101@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  alsbarfly@... | 06/16/08
In another year...  pcguy777 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  gbash@... | 06/16/08
Vista not for a basic user.........  rd14@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kevsan | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bandrfla@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  carsonhw | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jacmar@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  GhengisKhan | 06/16/08
It has long been rumored  Ole Man | 06/16/08
Open Solaris: interesting option  w_c_mead | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  FWAllen | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  paradeshi | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mike.moran@... | 06/16/08
Ubuntu, here I come!  hamilter | 06/16/08
Ubuntu...  pgf_666@... | 06/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  RobAlex | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rakelly@... | 06/16/08
MS BS  kulddy@... | 06/16/08
MORE MS BS  kulddy@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  JackZhao@... | 06/16/08
Will Vista step up? Aha! you admit it has not yet  On Site PC | 06/16/08
These are the programs that don't run on Vista  RamonFHerrera | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up? (ROTFL....)  pgf_666@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  luckyg | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rwoodard71@... | 06/16/08
These are the programs that don't run on Vista  RamonFHerrera | 06/16/08
Vista's been good to me for over a year  tech_walker | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ucdailoi@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lily725 | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  YAJEULBONE | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends. I'm fed up with windows.  dbucyk@... | 06/16/08
MS not staying with consumers  Theknight thatsaysnee | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  gunfrk@... | 06/16/08
VISTA = WINDOWS ME  jub33@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  aloisonline@... | 06/16/08
As for pro audio manufacturers...  Grayson Peddie | 06/16/08
Running XP Only software in Vista  ThinkFair | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mstis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cabinetdrcp@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dir32jd | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  public@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lasryl@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  valsons@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  kdrosler@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dprozzo | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  coxg@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dprozzo | 06/16/08
Posted in wrong place (nt)  dprozzo | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cybermom19@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ethyrdude | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  steve@... | 06/16/08
Expect updates for XP to continue - Still getting updates for Windows 2000!  GiveMeGizmos | 06/16/08
Updates aren't the issue  billvelek@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  tonnita | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ethyrdude | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cjbosman@... | 06/16/08
You also have the virtual machine alternative.  xode@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ablejoy@... | 06/16/08
Downsizing for the Socialism to follow. time to go to work.  rtirman37@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  LaoziSailor | 06/16/08
Go Mac, the savings are incredible!  gcbright | 06/16/08
You're right in the right way.  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  don12string@... | 06/16/08
I Don't Think M$ is Going to Have Any More Luck w/Shoving Vista  drprodny | 06/16/08
XP FOR ME! I waited two years for XP before buying!  Subsailor | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  atari8bit@... | 06/16/08
XP era ends but LINUX still crap. So obvious choice is Vista...  transposeIT | 06/16/08
Linux will have its time IF and only if they...  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Vista Sucks...  palm50@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  nbc7321@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  swathingscientist | 06/16/08
Why don't people like vista?It's faster, more secure,DX10 and good looking  JMGM | 06/16/08
Finally!  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mdddzn | 06/16/08
MONOPOLY OR NOT  d.binam@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Digitalcomet | 06/16/08
JUST SAY NO TO VISTA  d.binam@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  l12ard | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  billvelek@... | 06/16/08
No one here sounds like admins... *sigh*  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Robert1636 | 06/16/08
Hey, PC Tech...  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  l12ard | 06/16/08
Pirating...  mellis@... | 06/16/08
I will bet you... I will bet you dollars to donuts...  mellis@... | 06/16/08
Put your dollars where your mouth...er..keyboard is  Ole Man | 06/17/08
After Windows 98 and 2000, no way ..... yet  lochsportpark@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  z1ray | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mellis@... | 06/16/08
Oh, and one more thing. You can get XP easily.  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mellis@... | 06/16/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  coborn | 06/17/08
Varies on reseller.  mellis@... | 06/17/08
Then There's always dual-boot  jmsharpe3@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  pieter@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mwalshaw@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Batesphoto | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  polarhei | 06/17/08
mass buy!  Perkstersteve | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  onrete@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  juergen.vieth@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  joecass@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  TWLAAAS | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  robert.w.michaelson@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jim65@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  tapeape | 06/17/08
Selling Vista Machine getting Mac Os  thiswebs4u@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  07palman@... | 06/17/08
Linux now spoken here!  LoJackMike | 06/17/08
Will Vista step up? = OPTIONS Stay XP or go Linux or MAC  sidney.schultz@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  MntnMn | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Holy Acres | 06/17/08
Upgrades  t0pcat | 06/17/08
i'm in the same case.  magallanes | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cdevanssay@... | 06/17/08
Vista Crashes  kathygnome | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wknaack@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Neil Lynn | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  moejoh | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  barry1936 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  phillfri | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wolverine@... | 06/17/08
Vista Can Not Step Up  chessmen | 06/17/08
Vista would need an extension ladder  Ole Man | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  BlueFootTwo | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wvrmfg@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  stewarth@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Redcell | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  robfre19@... | 06/17/08
Win ME!  stewarth@... | 06/17/08
Jersey and Microsoft ?  JohnnyWindows | 06/17/08
I appreciate innovations that work for me  Gruffydd | 06/17/08
I think it's great  stewarth@... | 06/17/08
RE: Bought XP last Year  Stephen.Smith@... | 06/17/08
Upgrading to xp  rickroberts_mcse@... | 06/17/08
Microsoft Lost my Trust  eGrateful | 06/17/08
How easy...  bedrich.magas@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  bedrich.magas@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  robsida@... | 06/17/08
xp vs vista  tphilon@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  gridley@... | 06/17/08
bloatware  stewarth@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Demzon | 06/17/08
Then say with XP and rotten...  MrViklund | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Richard B | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Richard B | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  malbin | 06/17/08
What's wrong with Mandriva and Open Office  Mahegan | 06/17/08
Should not Intellectual Property Rights be shortened  Mahegan | 06/17/08
Intellectual Property Rights reside in the heads  Ole Man | 06/19/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  lorin@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  erzdsspot | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Shep70 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era not ending for me  Enorton42@... | 06/17/08
How Many Times Will You Delete This?  chessmen | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Kg001 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Shep70 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up? Apple blew it - again  sharkinfested | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  robineau@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Max_in_OH | 06/17/08
NO issues going from XP to Vista  russtom1 | 06/17/08
No Issues Either...  brianel1 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  fuzzyone@... | 06/17/08
I think i heard this before  csw536 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Yellowbird7 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Reged | 06/17/08
complete agreement  merc2dogs` | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  cdnet@... | 06/17/08
What a waste it could be......for XP and Vista!  MadMaxC | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ryan1952 | 06/17/08
Developers are switching to Mac machines  Paul C. | 06/17/08
Not what I am seeing  balsover | 06/17/08
Downgrade rights  dragosani | 06/17/08
Vista has made computing a living hell for me  thad@... | 06/17/08
Vista Suicide: winsxs folder 9.4gb and no help for it.  jh2fct | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  brianric | 06/17/08
XP and Vista  dietermg | 06/17/08
Don't worry RTK, Bush will be gone soon, soon we'll live in an Obama-nation  invmgr@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Dr. Blog | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  twindragon6 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Redsheep | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dmorgan4@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP. Invest in hardware futures?  davidpjohn2003@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  r_darling | 06/17/08
Vista Suicide: winsxs folder 9.4gb and no help for it.  jh2fct | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  warpuck@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Developers Watch Out!!!  lmenningen | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Pooch666 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  martyj | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  synergistic | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  deea@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  tcsd38@... | 06/17/08
Not so fast ...  rcfoulk@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  pebign@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  emshaw@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  don.chambers@... | 06/17/08
What does it mean to "develop" for Vista?  chas_2 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jwebfoot2togo@... | 06/17/08
Vista Appearance...yuck!  sweetolyve@... | 06/17/08
It probably will...  alexDaPez | 06/17/08
If Big Business Were To Migrate to Linux...  chas_2 | 06/17/08
Using Xp and Linux  ghawkins@... | 06/17/08
"Whining"?  Master Dave | 06/17/08
Microsoft is getting it wrong wrong wrong  JonnyDee | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  astikali | 06/17/08
Vista works perfectly well  l_eeburgess@... | 06/17/08
more respect? no it doesnt  stevey_d | 06/17/08
Yes it does..  l_eeburgess@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  yschoo1@... | 06/17/08
Winev1.0 is out today. You might find it runs Win32 apps better than Vista  stevey_d | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  timspublic1@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  barrywford@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  WhoCare$ | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  mred1943 | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  goldenpirate@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  conan99 | 06/17/08
Longhorn - Vista - XP  upl1nk | 06/17/08
longhorn  atari8bit@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  barence773 | 06/17/08
That's it!  metilley@... | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  green alien | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Walker Evans | 06/17/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  dendolf | 06/17/08
UNIX, LINUX, the death of Microsoft Vista  chrishutch | 06/17/08
RE: Reliable  green alien | 06/19/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  TedKraan | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  atari8bit@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  vsrkmurthy@... | 06/18/08
XP Will Still Work  Cardhu | 06/18/08
Ubuntu Information  Cardhu | 06/18/08
Vista Is Simply Not Ready  Cardhu | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  fwhitman | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Andrej.G. | 06/18/08
Stepping Down Is Not Stepping Up  _jman | 06/18/08
Stepping Down Is Not Stepping Up  GuardianBob | 06/18/08
You do know  rtk | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  GuardianBob | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  THX 1138 | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  catsend | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  chessmen | 06/18/08
Vista has stepped up: Faster than XP now.  Narg | 06/18/08
Calm Down, People!  StPatrick56 | 06/18/08
Shades of Millenium  inventionation@... | 06/18/08
A message to fanboys  Gazok | 06/18/08
Just GO WITH THE FLOW  Ole Man | 06/19/08
@Gazok  TedKraan | 06/20/08
Great for smaller dealers!  g-man_863 | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  charlie.collins1@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  keyona1122 | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jonfred77 | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  hjerrold15@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jhasprey@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jhasprey@... | 06/18/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  atokabray@... | 06/19/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  peterjrob@... | 06/19/08
Microsoft has a Marie Antoinette Attitude...  g-man_863 | 06/19/08
so, just to get this straight...  rtk | 06/19/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  LouisBarr@... | 06/19/08
3'd  ajv123 | 06/20/08
Vista, HA! Me is for me, LOL  mrmel2you@... | 06/20/08
Will Vista step up?  zclayton2 | 06/20/08
Will Vista compete with MacIntosh?  daepowell@... | 06/20/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ajv123 | 06/20/08
The XP Era Ends  menulis@... | 06/20/08
no vista unless I have to  Hobyx | 06/20/08
Sounds Like Dictatorism to me  KeithAu001 | 06/20/08
Ummm.  rtk | 06/20/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wlmcgrann@... | 06/21/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  khhammerle@... | 06/21/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jfreedle2@... | 06/21/08
With Logic Like This  Cardhu | 06/21/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jboz | 06/21/08
By This Kind of Reasoning  Cardhu | 06/21/08
So...  d.diamond@... | 06/22/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  janeiroryan | 06/21/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  thatcomputerman | 06/22/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  jim65@... | 06/22/08
Its Business As Usual Not Public Interest  hajimokhtar1@... | 06/22/08
These ZDNet forums have guidance for switching to Linux  Cardhu | 06/22/08
Never. As In Never-Ever, Never.  geminate7@... | 06/22/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ladyphoenix3 | 06/22/08
I'm in the same boat...  JCitizen | 06/23/08
swim or sink  trenchsol | 06/23/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  suddenend | 06/23/08
RE: Probably  sharkinfested | 06/24/08
I've been left out in the cold before...  Peagravel | 06/24/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rolandhouser@... | 06/24/08
My company will not be using vista in the near future.  Been_Done_Before | 06/24/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  law_n_disorder | 06/24/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  rrforster12@... | 06/24/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  NanoProgrammer | 06/26/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  pufferarg@... | 06/26/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  wgnospam@... | 06/28/08
XP broke a few pieces of hardware (time for a new scanner anyway)  Ole Man | 06/28/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?--WTF(rell) is with the driver issue?  pgf_666@... | 06/30/08
This Article is Misleading and Denigrating  Cardhu | 06/30/08
Only Time Will Tell  Cardhu | 06/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  norfleet52@... | 06/30/08
Wrong, so utterly wrong  Dukhalion | 06/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  tronic70@... | 06/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up? Fings i forgot to mention  tronic70@... | 06/30/08
HAD A LOOK, TRIED IT ..................RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  sidney.schultz@... | 06/30/08
How many people have given Vista a good shot?  mmilad@... | 07/01/08
Re: How many people have given Vista a good shot? A lot, but they missed..  pgf_666@... | 07/02/08
Downgrading is a hassle  g-man_863 | 07/06/08
Vista Hell  pgf_666@... | 07/09/08
Vista, Hell!  pgf_666@... | 09/23/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  XweAponX | 07/06/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  codemonkey1 | 12/26/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  masinick@... | 12/26/08
Alternatives: Linux or Mac  mzjdeen | 12/30/08
If XP is dead ...  Reged | 12/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  ramnet@... | 12/30/08
RE: XP era ends: Will Vista step up?  Simon Bates | 12/30/08
Tsk Tsk... Yet another victim of the Apple RDF...  Wolfie2K3 | 12/30/08

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