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October 11th, 2007

First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft

Posted by David Berlind @ 9:14 pm

Categories: General, Legal, Open Source, Software Infrastructure

Tags: Novell Inc., Patent, Connection, Microsoft Corp., Blogosphere, Jones, Linux, Open Source, UNIX, Operating Systems

It appears as though the first patent suit against Linux — targeting Red Hat and Novell — is now official. According to Groklaw’s Pamela Jones:

IP Innovation LLC has just filed a patent infringement claim against Red Hat and Novell. It was filed October 9, case no. 2:2007cv00447, IP Innovation, LLC et al v. Red Hat Inc. et al, in Texas. Where else? The patent troll magnet state…… [this is] The first ever patent infringement litigation involving Linux. Here’s the patent, for those who can look at it without risk. If in doubt, don’t. Here’s the complaint [PDF]….The plaintiff is asking for an injunction, along with damages.

Jones goes on to cite some relevant points of the complaint but then, like the Six Degrees of Kevin Bacon, unearths a potential connection to Microsoft. According to a story posted by Patent Troll Tracker well before this lawsuit turned up, IP Innovation LLC is a subsidiary of Acacia Research Corporation which the site classifies as a patent troll. This past July Acacia hired Jonathan Taub away from his job as Director, Strategic Alliances for the Mobile and Embedded Devices (MED) division at Microsoft and then, just last week, it hired Brad Brunell away from his job at Microsoft where, among other jobs, he served as General Manager, Intellectual Property Licensing.

The blogosphere is likely to have a field day with this connection and I suspect that dumpsters will be dived in hopes of finding a less tenuous connection to Microsoft. The timing of the suit seems rather serendipitous given both the timing of Brunell’s move as well as the threats that Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer issued last week — ones that specifically mentioned patents (vs. the other form of intellectual property; copyrights). Even so,

Is there a connection? Well, there’s no smoking gun at this point. And if there was such a connection, you can’t help but wonder why Novell would be named in the suit since Microsoft and Novell are now working together to better integrate Windows with Novell’s Suse Linux and the arrangement includes patent protection for Novell. So, you’ll have to judge for yourself what’s going on here.

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Before Windows there were 8 bit computers with various Dos's. The Atari 8 bit had about 25. I can run multiple programs on the same screen on a 130XE. The Atari ST can do the same. M$ can litigate aga... (Read the rest)
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Ballmer Speaks - Next Day Litigation  BanjoPaterson | 10/12/07
Why extend rights to yourself that you won't do to others?  GuidingLight | 10/12/07
Doesn't the US constitution enshrine the separation of church and law - NT  raycote | 10/12/07
No, not really  Carrion | 10/12/07
Fraudulent courts.  xode@... | 10/12/07
The main point I see...  Information_z | 10/14/07
The Constitution does not separate God ( morals, ethics. etc.) and law.  xode@... | 10/12/07
God does not represent morals, ethics, etc.  Fred Fredrickson | 10/13/07
Silly sheep  HapGail_HomeInMd@... | 10/13/07
Good question  Linux User 147560 | 10/13/07
I think you...  Information_z | 10/14/07
separation of church  jsjag1 | 10/12/07
Get it right or don't even try.  People | 10/12/07
Yes, there is. And guess Who INVENTED Separation of Church & State?  Joel R | 10/12/07
Good call Joel; and right on!(nt)  JCitizen | 10/13/07
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JLHenry, re: Romans 13:  Joel R | 10/14/07
Although...  JCitizen | 04/21/08
Correctly interpreted as it is written  Update victim | 10/13/07
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Even the fossil record....  Carrion | 10/12/07
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I've studied it plenty...  Carrion | 10/12/07
Not this again!  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
@Linux User  JCitizen | 10/12/07
Calling me weak minded  Carrion | 10/12/07
To: JCitizen  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
@Linux User; I can under stand your frustration...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
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In Marxism, religion does not exist  Carrion | 10/12/07
evolution  Mahegan | 10/12/07
There is a big difference  alaniane@... | 10/12/07
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Nice try.  Joel R | 10/13/07
That's not evolution...  Carrion | 10/12/07
Umm  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Nonsense.  Carrion | 10/12/07
Just my opinion but...  JCitizen | 10/12/07
That's easy!  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Perhaps you should restudy what Darwin  Update victim | 10/13/07
In fact Darwin was a man of faith...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
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No  laura.b | 10/12/07
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It is probably in the preamble or the Articles..  JCitizen | 10/12/07
I stand corrected!  JCitizen | 10/12/07
More people  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
Amendment No. 1.  Update victim | 10/13/07
Neither...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
Constitution  justanitguy | 10/15/07
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a wheel is just a wheel.  pcguy777 | 10/12/07
From what I am seeing  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
You OBVIOUSLY didn't understand the patent.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
The "Virtual Workspace" is a fairly simple concept ....  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Sounds like...  jasonp@... | 10/13/07
Another U-boat operation.  osreinstall | 10/12/07
Correction  osreinstall | 10/12/07
So they are trying to collect retroactively ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Sure looks that way.  osreinstall | 10/12/07
what I am seeing  aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
Sent it all to Syria....  JCitizen | 10/13/07
The advantage Open Source has over patent trolling...  olePigeon | 10/12/07
Dude, Red Hat didn't even exist  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
yeah? well...  linuxoverwindows | 10/12/07
The concept being  Ole Man | 10/12/07
This suit needs to go to court and be won  grail@... | 10/13/07
He has been speaking for some time.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
You're Kidding Right?  rjacksix | 10/12/07
Surprised a discussion of Linux mentions Red Hat?  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
Linux mentions Red Hat?  aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
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If they said no, MS would not be here now!  I am Gorby | 10/12/07
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Next Day Litigation  aussieblnd@... | 10/12/07
The Prior Art Starts Here  David Mohring | 10/12/07
Not to Mention GEM  maldain | 10/12/07
GEM does not pre-date the IBM PC ...  mwagner@... | 10/12/07
How about GEOS on the C/64?  psion@... | 10/12/07
Actually  weemooseus@... | 10/12/07
I was more impressed with IBM..  JCitizen | 10/13/07
I LOVE Prior Art  Timpraetor | 10/12/07
That may be why Congress is eliminating it.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
Prior art would still be a factor ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Re: That may be why Congress is eliminating it.  none none | 10/12/07
Administrative simplicity  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
Re: Administrative simplicity  none none | 10/12/07
But you can always leave it to Anton  Ole Man | 10/12/07
Paternity  Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
Eliminating prior art?  IT_User | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M  mrOSX | 10/12/07
The advancement of useful arts and sciences...  Robert Crocker | 10/12/07
Add that 2 the fact they waited 10 years....  mrOSX | 10/12/07
Kick  DirtyDingus | 10/12/07
Failure to attempt marketing a product should be grounds for:  Update victim | 10/13/07
Re: The advancement of useful arts and sciences...  none none | 10/12/07
There are Claims and then there are Claims...  hmoulding@... | 10/13/07
Doesn't Microoft infringe on this as well?  coverlt@... | 10/12/07
Technically Not  rjacksix | 10/12/07
Technically Not  lmenningen | 10/12/07
What about MDI?  Bruizer | 10/12/07
Technically, yes  none none | 10/12/07
One thing to remember here is ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Re: One thing to remember here is ...  none none | 10/12/07
My Mandriva Linux connects quickly  Bill4 | 10/12/07
Plan is in motion....  Mike Cox | 10/12/07
Brings a smile to my face happy (nt)  el1jones | 10/12/07
Mike, your rep is grandiloquent.  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
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I'm surprised...  JCitizen | 10/12/07
Mike strikes fear in the heart of Lovey.  nix_hed | 10/12/07
indubitably! (NT)  JCitizen | 10/13/07
Hello, Fishie!  nix_hed | 10/12/07
10.0+ Eloquent and artful in construction  laura.b | 10/12/07
I took off .5 for the spelling  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
Very well done sir.... 9.8 (nt)  Badgered | 10/12/07
Re: As I cut my eggs Benedict...  handydan918@... | 10/12/07
9.0 (NT)  balaknair | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  sj_z | 10/12/07
Why not sue Sun or IBM?  jacarter3 | 10/12/07
Have they learned nothing from the SCO debacle?  JonathonDoe | 10/12/07
They are "putting up", there are patents named  PB_z | 10/12/07
This is real  crypt2121 | 10/12/07
Has Micro$oft considered whether or not they can survive  pennatomcat | 10/13/07
we should stand united against M$ attac dogs!  Linux Geek | 10/12/07
"We"?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Microsoft Is Its Own Worst Enemy  chessmen | 10/12/07
I fail to see how 90% of your post is relevant.  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
The only part I picked up on...  JCitizen | 10/12/07
Microsoft's Pattern of Behaviour  chessmen | 10/12/07
Not who - what a customer is...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
Microsoft has no customers now  Ole Man | 10/13/07
The "whole" community doesn't have congressmen.  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
Just checking on what the patent is actually is?  el1jones | 10/12/07
Hmmm....  zkiwi | 10/12/07
That, actually, is a brilliant idea  laura.b | 10/12/07
Sticky windows?  macoafi | 10/12/07
What happens when...  KWierso | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M  Brane2 | 10/12/07
and btw...  Brane2 | 10/12/07
Because this is the first...  Anton Philidor | 10/12/07
They make Ballmer...  bjbrock | 10/12/07
eolas=patent, sco=copyright.  Skibum | 10/12/07
prior art  scott1329 | 10/12/07
patchlevel.h for screen - at 3.0 in 1991!  scott1329 | 10/12/07
Another bad patent....  techboy_z | 10/12/07
And the Foil Hat Parade Begins! NT.  bka1959 | 10/12/07
Starting with you?? NT  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
It seems to me ...  mwagner@... | 10/12/07
It is pseudo speak for sure  TripleII | 10/12/07
Amiga  cheesyone | 10/13/07
ZDNet has deep pockets...  Timpraetor | 10/12/07
The patent was assigned to Xerox...  Resuna | 10/12/07
And this is the mystery ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Yes, patents are bought and sold.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Well, yes, obviously it was sold...  Resuna | 10/12/07
Hundereds of Xerox patents were sold.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
You "couldn't begin to count.."  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
Message has been deleted.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
As if s/he could write a book....  B.O.F.H. | 10/13/07
Well of course you couldn't  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
They shouldn't be IMHO  CobraA1 | 10/12/07
Very nice, lets patent "Windows"  ohiomike | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  robertrduncan@... | 10/12/07
mod up!  Rick S._z | 10/12/07
"One day"?  masonwheeler | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M  rone@... | 10/12/07
To be expected  hoiatl | 10/12/07
Making a Point?  rjacksix | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
What?  persia | 10/12/07
RE: What?  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
Didn't you watch the superbowl in 1984 ?  i8thecat | 10/12/07
More to the story  Chad_z | 10/12/07
Redhat isn't alone.  TripleII | 10/12/07
You raise an interesting point  Chad_z | 10/12/07
What a joke...  3dtodd | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  OKJoe | 10/12/07
It's a Xerox patent  persia | 10/12/07
Could be good for everyone  TripleII | 10/12/07
However the courts are ultimately fraud and need to be kept "honest" by...  xode@... | 10/12/07
Enough  jswift | 10/12/07
Hate to say it but...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Agreed  TripleII | 10/12/07
I have to disagree.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Counterclaims  TripleII | 10/12/07
Huh? I say again, HUH?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
What don't you get?  TripleII | 10/12/07
Your ignorance of patents and the courts is showing.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
No_Fax, are you saying?  Ole Man | 10/12/07
NoAxe, why do you pretend to know what you don't  TripleII | 10/12/07
Triplell, why did you leave the entire next paragraph out?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Reading Comprehension 101  TripleII | 10/12/07
And free legal research  John L. Ries | 10/12/07
The PARENT is correct...  Rick S._z | 10/12/07
They are smart, you are not.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Right  lmenningen | 10/12/07
yeah I tend to agree  mdsmedia | 10/12/07
Patent is invalid  kokuryu | 10/12/07
It sure seems to be  byoung@... | 10/12/07
Ah but the real question is  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Your tin foil hat is leaking...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Oh  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Some one has to keep you children in line  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Well  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
You want to sniff my farts??? GROSS !!! (nt)  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Hey what you do in the privacy of your  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Instead of lobbing a character attack, how about addressing his point and  xode@... | 10/12/07
First he must make a point...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
He's right.  hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
Sorry but this is not a trademark case.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Re: Sorry but this is not a trademark case.  none none | 10/12/07
Expire means noithing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
You can't renew patents!  laplatakid | 10/12/07
True, it gets extended, not re-newed  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
HOMEWORK:  Rick S._z | 10/12/07
huh? maybe, but not relevant.  Rick S._z | 10/12/07
Prior art  INGOTIAN | 10/12/07
RE: Prior art  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
This is Microsoft's problem  THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
More tin foil needed.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
I agree; however,  THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
You are wrong on one count.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Re: More tin foil needed.  none none | 10/12/07
Agree 100%  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
RE: This is Microsoft's problem  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
This will be decided at the appeals level ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
This Is A Non-Issue  itanalyst | 10/12/07
Non-issue?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Sorry NoAxe  mrOSX | 10/12/07
Expiration date  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
You are right about it still going to court...  mrOSX | 10/12/07
RE: You are right about it still going to court...  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
Bush???  DirtyDingus | 10/12/07
We don't know how long they waited...  laplatakid | 10/12/07
You seem to be clueless on the subject.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
NoAxe maybe you should research before speaking...  mrOSX | 10/12/07
Nicely done.  handydan918@... | 10/12/07
YOu are correct, would you like other examples  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Why should anyone here be any different than you?  cheesyone | 10/13/07
No he isn't...  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Ranting doesn't change facts little one.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Oh NOW  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Show me child...  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
First it's you that is the child  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
Dang, You Are SO Easy To Own  itanalyst | 10/15/07
Patents limits Freedom  Don't Ask Me | 10/12/07
"it be a new form of Communism"  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
Not Communism  John L. Ries | 10/12/07
Communism  Don't Ask Me | 10/12/07
Point being  John L. Ries | 10/12/07
Sandanistas?  nwoodson@... | 10/15/07
Public Use problem  weaesq | 10/12/07
How wrong are thee, let me count the ways...  hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
RE: How wrong are thee, let me count the ways...  nwoodson@... | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M  nydas | 10/12/07
Whatever...  hulse_kevin | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  jsjag1 | 10/12/07
What a joke  xrxca | 10/12/07
It started in 1967 At SRI  jimparkhurst00@... | 10/12/07
Reverse that  John L. Ries | 10/12/07
How about this  THEE WOLF | 10/12/07
The patent seems all encompassingly broad  lschw1 | 10/12/07
What about GIS/Cartographic/Drafting prior art?  egads@... | 10/12/07
Too many patents for common sense things  Randalllind | 10/12/07
The interesting theing (to me) is seeing  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/07
Novell - like the cop at the protest  Mahegan | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to M  crawdad2k | 10/12/07
Here's a thought...  zkiwi | 10/12/07
Some really bad grammar...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/12/07
Well ... I guess even Red Hat and Novell will be able to keep it ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
What next a patent on breathing  draciron@... | 10/12/07
Hmmm I just read a very interesting  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
They pretty much have to fight it ...  George Mitchell | 10/12/07
Ah yes...  Linux User 147560 | 10/12/07
@ Blind Believer  RightHandMan | 10/12/07
Ive Been Looking Too  Ole Man | 10/12/07
You People see Conspiracies Everywhere!  ballmerrules@... | 10/12/07
Fear of Looking and Patent Scope  orcmid | 10/12/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  brichter | 10/12/07
if true this will turn ugly big time  Quebec-french | 10/12/07
the US economy is already on fire and in a tailspin  stevey_d | 10/13/07
What about Linspire...  tek_heretik | 10/13/07
They already whacked them once!  JCitizen | 10/13/07
Oh yeah, forgot...  tek_heretik | 10/13/07
The REAL reason why they have not gone after Microsoft ...  George Mitchell | 10/13/07
Good analysis...  JCitizen | 10/13/07
If Microsoft is cheering...  Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
Anton  Linux User 147560 | 10/14/07
You forget ...  George Mitchell | 10/14/07
Of course MS is a Linux "seller"...  JCitizen | 10/15/07
Ballmer loaned IP M$'s lawyers...  tek_heretik | 10/13/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  jjjjofus | 10/14/07
RE: First patent suit against Linux has a Kevin Bacon-esque connection to Microsoft  jjjjofus | 10/14/07
Why Include Novell...  Paradigm_Shift | 10/14/07
right  atari8bit@... | 05/20/08
Can they still defend this patent ?  xfer_rdy | 10/14/07
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