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October 30th, 2007

More evidence of why Microsoft, AOL, Google, and Yahoo must work together on spam

Posted by David Berlind @ 3:17 pm

Categories: General, Personal Technology, Security, Software Infrastructure, Web technology

Tags: Google Inc., America Online Inc., Yahoo! Inc., E-mail Authentication, Microsoft Corp., E-mail, Cyberthreats, Spam, Online Communications, Security

Theoretically, with all the e-mail that flows through its systems, Yahoo is in a really good position to spot and tag spam as spam. But if the screen shot below (taken today) is any evidence of how Yahoo is faring in the war, then it’s time for another approach.

For example, we have Yahoo to thank for DomainKeys (an e-mail authentication specification). However, because Domain Keys is not a standard and not universally supported, Yahoo can hardly start refusing mail that doesn’t comply with the Domain Keys specification. So, what good is it then? The same goes for other e-mail authentication technologies like SenderID from Microsoft or SPF. If Microsoft, AOL, Google, and Yahoo (MAGY — pronounced “maggie”) could settle on a handful of anti-spam standards that they’d universally support (and, at some well-publicized date off in the future, collectively refuse all non-compliant e-mail), I’m relatively certain you’d see a significant drop off in spam (as well as the false positives which, in reality, are actually more problematic to most of us than the spam itself).

There are plenty of people who think I’m wrong about this and they’re very vocal about their own opinions in the Talkbacks to my many rants about spam here on ZDNet. Meanwhile, the problem keeps getting worse and worse. Talk is cheap. I’ve got an idea on the table. I’ve had it on the table for over five years now (ever since I started JamSpam). Clearly, nothing else has worked. Meanwhile, my approach hasn’t even been tried. I just wish MAGY would give it a chance. If they need a forum in which to meet and hammer things out, I will be happy to host it. But, since nothing else is working and problem is only getting worse, I’m getting tired of hearing why working together can’t work instead of what must happen for it to work.

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David Berlind has been Executive Editor at ZDNet since 1998 and has been a technology journalist since 1991. Although he can't respond to all e-mails, he reads them all. You can reach David at david.berlind AT cnet.com. If you don't want the content of your e-mail to turn up in a blog entry, make sure you say so. To the extent that most e-mail he receives looks to sway his opinion about something, he usually looks to pass those points of view onto ZDNet's audience members for their consideration . For disclosures on David's industry affiliations, click here.
  • Talkback
  • Most Recent of 19 Talkback(s)
Microsoft should be taken off the list, in my opinion...
I might get one piece of junk mail a month at MSN's hotmail. I've had the account for seven years and I sign up for offers I probably don't need like anyone else; yet the junk count just keeps droppin... (Read the rest)
Posted by: JCitizen Posted on: 11/05/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Spam can be eliminated with signed certificates and cryptography!  D. T. Schmitz | 10/30/07
Wrong solution  waltmaine | 10/31/07
I beg to differ  D. T. Schmitz | 10/31/07
Still won't work  waltmaine | 10/31/07
Domain Keys: Weaknesses  D. T. Schmitz | 10/31/07
RE: More evidence of why Microsoft, AOL, Google, and Yahoo must work togeth  r.dufresne@... | 10/31/07
Putting strong encryption in the hands of every man: GPG  D. T. Schmitz | 10/31/07
Won't help.  waltmaine | 10/31/07
I beg to differ again  D. T. Schmitz | 10/31/07
web interface  waltmaine | 10/31/07
Putting strong encryption in the hands of every man: GPG  D. T. Schmitz | 10/31/07
Still need support from the major ISPs  waltmaine | 10/31/07
Working together cannot hurt...  milton@... | 10/31/07
Laboratories - Why working together is less effective.  Anton Philidor | 10/31/07
This is what the 5th article with the same adjenda? Fine ok.. then  Been_Done_Before | 10/31/07
My main objection...  bjbrock | 10/31/07
Ou's translation:  nizuse | 11/02/07
Good one David, love the screen shot!(NT)  JCitizen | 11/05/07
Microsoft should be taken off the list, in my opinion...  JCitizen | 11/05/07

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