RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
SomeCritic | 08/18/09
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ok, right
ozguy | 08/18/09
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Actually...
914four | 08/20/09
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Seriously?
alkanshel | 08/19/09
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Solaris 10
914four | 08/20/09
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Drive encryption.
CobraA1 | 08/20/09
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Easier Way
Boykin01 | 08/19/09
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Or boot from a flash drive
alkanshel | 08/19/09
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That's not proof
beoz | 08/19/09
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Actually...
keoz | 08/19/09
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Trolling again Ed???
Mark Grobler | 08/19/09
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Seems it takes very little
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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That is GOD'S OWN TRUTH!!!
nbahn | 08/21/09
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For the record...
JasonJD48 | 08/22/09
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Oh, please . . .
CobraA1 | 08/20/09
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Without reading the article first:
NStalnecker | 08/18/09
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Reasonable metric?
rgod8855 | 08/18/09
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Apples and Oranges
zenwalker | 08/19/09
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Re: Reasonable metric
Railroad Buff | 08/19/09
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Not so
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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Re: Reasonable metric
Railroad Buff | 08/19/09
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I'm happy with my methodology, thanks
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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Yeah, right!
tealcat | 08/19/09
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Most Insecure?
sirpaul1 | 08/19/09
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I hesitate to call you a liar BUT...
nbahn | 08/19/09
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Reasonable metric?
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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Wrong metric
Mikael_z | 08/20/09
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Well
mtgarden | 08/20/09
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Just who's the oxy-(MORON)?
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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Probably
CobraA1 | 08/20/09
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FUD galore
AldoWatts | 09/01/09
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easy question
tech_walker | 08/18/09
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Additionally...
jamesrayg | 08/19/09
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agreed
shellcodes_coder | 08/19/09
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Perhaps true,
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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You can hide users in Vista/7
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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Interesting...
pseudoperson | 08/20/09
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RE: Interesting
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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one way... (VHP = Vista Home Prem)
pseudoperson | 08/20/09
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I tried that
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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Of course...
keoz | 08/19/09
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I'm afraid that I don't follow you.
nbahn | 08/20/09
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Uh...
jamesrayg | 08/20/09
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I'll explain
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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@jamesrayg & kaninelupus--Thanks for your replies; I now understand. (N/T)
nbahn | 08/21/09
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For me it's Windows 7 or bust!
GoodThings2Life | 08/19/09
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Win7 or bust!
gavin142 | 08/20/09
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The one with intelligent users
Boot_Agnostic | 08/19/09
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Excellent point. nt
ye | 08/19/09
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The difference is
frgough | 08/19/09
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The difference
beoz | 08/19/09
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I'm not an MSCE and I...
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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The biggest single threat
gavin142 | 08/20/09
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Agreed
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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Here's A Source For A Similar Quote
nbahn | 08/21/09
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AMEN to that!!
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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Thats because
The 'G-Man.' | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
Loverock Davidson | 08/19/09
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No takers.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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Taker...
Viva la crank dodo | 08/19/09
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I found most viruses/malware on my network
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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Hey moderators, in your zeal to delete posts...
NonZealot | 08/19/09
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Actually... (I stand corrected; Good work moderators)
Viva la crank dodo | 08/19/09
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No bias, just humans trying to do a good job
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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Thank you Ed and your moderators...
JCitizen | 08/19/09
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JCitizen, I agree with your sentiments.....
nbahn | 08/19/09
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Glad to see you here on ZDNet..
JCitizen | 08/20/09
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I feel the same way, except
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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Fair enough
Viva la crank dodo | 08/21/09
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I can only say this in response.....
nbahn | 08/21/09
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nbahn
JasonJD48 | 08/21/09
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Thanks...
Viva la crank dodo | 08/19/09
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Ed, I'd just like to give a word of thanks to the moderator(s). (N/T)
nbahn | 08/19/09
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Just a question though....
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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I was
Viva la crank dodo | 08/21/09
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Yeah I wouldn't mind it being deleted.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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HA! I know what you mean there! ...(nt)
JCitizen | 08/19/09
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It's getting to be a little too much.
ye | 08/20/09
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trouble is
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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I understand this.
ye | 08/21/09
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I Agree (Respecfully, Of Course) (N/T)
nbahn | 08/21/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
pcs800@... | 08/19/09
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lol
keoz | 08/19/09
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Huhhh??
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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Don't make your life so hard
mswift@... | 09/24/09
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Actually, there was a Windows 7 patch
JazzGuyy | 08/19/09
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Patch for Win7 RC, NOT Win7 final!
ep-man | 08/21/09
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Security Depends on the User
wwgorman | 08/19/09
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You can't seriously believe this....
heppy_@... | 08/19/09
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Silly Metric
davidhayes | 08/19/09
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This is laughable
payton@... | 08/19/09
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WOW! I must have missed something...
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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XP had an achilles heel
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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WOW!
Jeremy W | 08/19/09
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Careful, Jeremy
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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Bring 'em on, Ed!
Dietrich T. Schmitz | 08/19/09
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Would you believe... I agree?
vulpine@... | 08/19/09
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Yeah I want to see them.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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Go ahead, post them...
Jeremy W | 08/20/09
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*facepalm*
Sleeper Service | 08/20/09
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At the risk of once again..
JCitizen | 08/22/09
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I have the numbers for Apple here if you want to see them.
Jeremy W | 08/22/09
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Staggering numbers
Ed Bott | 08/22/09
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So...
Jeremy W | 08/25/09
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Monopoly-they have no alternative
otaddy | 08/19/09
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Yeah, I don't see a monopoly either
beoz | 08/19/09
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Sure...
UAC nanny screen | 08/20/09
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There's no barrier to entry
beoz | 08/20/09
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Time to revisit that...
UAC nanny screen | 08/21/09
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The alternatives
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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I can't believe you said that!
nbahn | 08/20/09
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Was aware...
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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Point Taken -- Buuuuuut.....
nbahn | 08/22/09
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Ok
JasonJD48 | 08/22/09
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@jason...
JCitizen | 08/22/09
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Not when you walk into BestBuy you don't...
UAC nanny screen | 08/20/09
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By the same token ... walk into an Apple store ...
de-void | 08/20/09
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As I said before...
UAC nanny screen | 08/20/09
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Reply's above
beoz | 08/20/09
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And I won't double post except ...
UAC nanny screen | 08/21/09
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Best Buy sells Macs.
Sleeper Service | 08/20/09
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Who says you have to buy from Best Buy?
otaddy | 08/20/09
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You don't
UAC nanny screen | 08/20/09
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And since they sell Macs...
Sleeper Service | 08/21/09
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No it's not
UAC nanny screen | 08/21/09
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gimme a break!
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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NOT A GOOD YARD STICK
dobick@... | 08/19/09
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What are you talking about?
payton@... | 08/19/09
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..talking about?
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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You're confused.
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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20% market share?
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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The stats he refers to...
Sleeper Service | 08/20/09
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Its a solid metric from one perspective.
JasonJD48 | 08/22/09
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skewed
dobick@... | 08/19/09
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Yep
dobick@... | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
rick@... | 08/19/09
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It's good healthy open discusion....
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
RichardES | 08/19/09
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More use XP, less use Vista
D2 Ultima | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
cosuna | 08/19/09
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See previous response to dobci@
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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Hmmm...
voldar | 08/19/09
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The Stupid User
erikswanson | 08/19/09
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Those users
voldar | 08/21/09
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I'd disagree...
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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lol
keoz | 08/19/09
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Your security metric is lacking market share
Li1t | 08/19/09
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Another confused one.
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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hmmmm.....
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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depends on how many people want to jump up and down on it
FriBaby | 08/19/09
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7
ardentmoth | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
cfrobw | 08/19/09
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Compared to XP anything looks good
stenman@... | 08/19/09
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The vulns of Vista, OSX and Linux......
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
vulpine@... | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
dch1969 | 08/19/09
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Trick question?
Tom6 | 08/19/09
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See previous comment.
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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There you go again, Ed...
WAB6 | 08/19/09
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Answer:
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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No it's not
D2 Ultima | 08/19/09
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Very insightful post. Thanks.
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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actually
keoz | 08/19/09
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Interesting
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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hammer and a nail?
pseudoperson | 08/19/09
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Bill, may I ask why
voldar | 08/19/09
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You've never had to help an "average" user with a problem...
D2 Ultima | 08/19/09
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In fact I do
voldar | 08/19/09
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Since user training not a cost to consider...
gkp00co | 08/19/09
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3 points of failure
beoz | 08/19/09
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Points
gkp00co | 08/19/09
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@ the above
beoz | 08/20/09
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Excellent posts you two!
JCitizen | 08/22/09
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A point missed
mswift@... | 09/24/09
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Look at point #3...
JCitizen | 09/26/09
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Yes, you are right (in part)
voldar | 08/19/09
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Dead On
blackband707 | 08/19/09
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The learning curve
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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You mean he's suggesting.......
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
tgunn@... | 08/19/09
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Doesn't matter..
Narg | 08/19/09
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Exactly
wwgorman | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
ropratt | 08/19/09
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Read it again.
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
shanedr | 08/19/09
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Read the article again.
Lester Young | 08/19/09
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None of them
emenau | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
chriso144 | 08/19/09
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What "critical" updates?
flboffin | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
bomert@... | 08/19/09
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Is the methodology sound?
pwn0tr0n | 08/19/09
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More tinfoil, please
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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That same 'thriving security industry
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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No doubt then
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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They've had their chops busted before...
jasonp@... | 08/20/09
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Zdnet link
Viva la crank dodo | 08/20/09
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May have been valid...
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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Tinfoil stupidity and FUD
honeymonster | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
pwn0tr0n | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
bidenj | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
enterprisesoft | 08/19/09
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MyOS is the securest!
zedubal | 08/19/09
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Lol - that's the Ultimate Bott Metric rebuttal!
CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 08/19/09
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Not really
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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Win or Linux - does it matter?
CoglinIT | 08/19/09
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It doesn't, people just love fanclubs
beoz | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
erniem1970@... | 08/19/09
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Oh God not the Norton Hog
blackband707 | 08/19/09
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I'd think that the answer to Ed's question is...
zkiwi | 08/19/09
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Vista had a significant "edge edge" over XP...
bolscher@... | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
jnienhaus1 | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
wanderson | 08/19/09
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What I learned in journalism school
Ed Bott | 08/19/09
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Wow, harsh
erikswanson | 08/19/09
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Remind me never to have a conversation
JasonJD48 | 08/19/09
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You really can't win Ed.
tonymcs@... | 08/19/09
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Did they teach you in journalism school...
jasonp@... | 08/20/09
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When someone starts their comment...
Ed Bott | 08/20/09
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I believe jasonp...
Viva la crank dodo | 08/20/09
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Continuation of Folly
wanderson | 08/22/09
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Three years
Ed Bott | 08/22/09
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Now if you can stop ascribing motives...
Jeremy W | 08/26/09
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Ok
JasonJD48 | 08/26/09
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"it does not automatically mean that they are partial" (sic)
Jeremy W | 08/29/09
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Impartiality
JasonJD48 | 09/09/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
garwer22@... | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
deowll | 08/19/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
ssubrama2000 | 08/19/09
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Poor 'metric'
CPPDEV | 08/20/09
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By your metric...
Ed Bott | 08/20/09
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Poorer Metric
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
Epir | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
s.kaleem@... | 08/20/09
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Patches delivered automatically on Tuesdays?
d.s.williams | 08/20/09
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Which patch are you referring to?
ye | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
914four | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
jakenhauser23 | 08/20/09
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OK, whatever you say
Ed Bott | 08/20/09
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Your entitled to your opinion but...
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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An what expetise/qualifications do you offer??
kaninelupus | 08/21/09
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My experience
jakenhauser23 | 08/21/09
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Vista didn't make it
sk.dunnage@... | 08/20/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
beoz | 08/20/09
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I'm going to say 7
JasonJD48 | 08/20/09
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It was a mistake to keep XP alive
jscott418 | 08/21/09
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Hmmm
JasonJD48 | 08/21/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
jsonok | 08/21/09
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Unfair comparison.
Hates Idiots | 08/21/09
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Give it time - security fades as an OS ages
Clif Westbrook | 09/03/09
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RE: XP, Vista, or Windows 7: Which OS is more secure?
ramien@... | 09/24/09
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