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August 31st, 2006

On the trail of the $1000 Vista PC

Posted by Ed Bott @ 2:44 pm

Categories: Hardware, Windows Vista

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Mary Jo Foley is normally one of the smartest, most perceptive Microsoft watchers around. So I was particularly baffled when I read this post: What Is the Business Case for Upgrading to Vista? It’s a transcript of a conversation she had via IM with an enterprise user on the subject of how Microsoft will make the business case for Windows Vista:

MR. Biz: vista will NEVER run on a $1000 PC
MR. Biz: EVER
MR. Biz: maybe a $1500 PC, but that one doesn’t exist Yet
MR. Biz: there aren’t cheap dual cores yet
MR. Biz: price point is still around $2000
MJF: u are right

Ironic, isn’t it, that I devoted a whole column to this very myth yesterday, and here it pops up on one of the most popular tech sites today.

Vista will never run on a $1000 PC? Ha. I just went over to Dell’s website and priced out an Optiplex GX620DT, their most popular business-based configuration (and guaranteed to run Windows Vista). Here are the specs:

  • Pentium D 820 dual-core CPU
  • Windows XP Professional SP2 with media
  • 1GB DDR2 non-ECC RAM
  • 160GB SATA 3 drive
  • 16X DVD
  • USB keyboard and mouse
  • Broadcom Gigabit Ethernet NIC
  • 3 Year Business Standard support
  • Asset Recovery, 2 pieces
  • No monitor (17-inch flat panel LCD available for $149)

Price as configured? $959. That is, by the way, a pretty smokin’ business machine. And we’re talking onesy-twosy prices here. Something tells me if you bought a few hundred of these you could get that price down below $900. Since we already know that Windows Vista Business will cost about the same as Windows XP Professional or perhaps a little less, the cost of the OS is a non-issue.

And that’s for a well-built business PC, not a corner-cutting consumer box. If you’re a SOHO buyer willing to purchase from the retail channel, you can take your pick of inexpensive dual-core machines today, for well under $1000. The Deals folder in my RSS reader today included a Dell Inspiron E1505 notebook with Intel Core Duo processor for $629 with free shipping and a Dell Dimension 9200 desktop with Core 2 Duo and a 19" LCD monitor for $799 with free shipping. (Both machines come with 512MB of RAM and can be upgraded to 1GB for $65-80). Newegg.com is selling an Acer TravelMate TM4222 notebook with an Intel Core Duo, 1GB of RAM, and 120GB HDD for $895 with $12.34 shipping.

Any one of those PCs will run Windows Vista exceptionally well and should have a lifespan of three to five years. I don’t know where Mr. Biz is shopping, but he needs to do a little more homework. These days, a $1000 PC offers exceptional performance. Hell, for the $2000 price point that Mr. Biz is talking about, you could probably put together a dual-Xeon system!

Hmmm. I wonder whether Mr. Biz works for FUD Industries…

Update 1-Sep: Be sure to read the reactions by Nathan Weinberg and Adrian Kingsley-Hughes.

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RE: On the trail of the $1000 Vista PC
I am running vista ultimate on a sony vaio 2GHz dual core laptop with 1GB memory and it's working ok for me. Ideal scenario would be a $800 - $1500 core2duo laptop with 2GB of memory. Look for deals d... (Read the rest)
Posted by: ajollyman Posted on: 06/09/08 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
You made a funny.  frgough | 08/31/06
The cheap dual core laptops are smoking once you upgrade video  georgeou | 08/31/06
Still, a laptop that runs XP or Linux quite well can be had for $400 to 500  DonnieBoy | 08/31/06
Or, to put it another way...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/06
No, you can run current versions of Linux on that hardware. The problem  DonnieBoy | 08/31/06
Horsefeathers!  Wolfie2K3 | 09/01/06
RE: Horsefeathers!  joe6pack_z | 09/04/06
My business desktop is a 1.8 GHz P4 running W2K.  Zogg | 09/01/06
Sheesh...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/01/06
I have. It does. That's my point. (NT)  Zogg | 09/02/06
Don't give me that  georgeou | 08/31/06
He said " XP or Linux", so there's no need to snap.  Zogg | 09/01/06
Don't be economical with the truth George ...  bportlock | 09/01/06
Only if you got junk loaded  georgeou | 09/01/06
"Ou Stats [tm]" return  Robert Crocker | 09/01/06
Boot time?  tic swayback | 09/01/06
Just ignore the "straw man" reply, I think.  Zogg | 09/01/06
Aero is not a requirement  georgeou | 09/01/06
Since our company didn't even see anything compelling in WinXP...  Zogg | 09/02/06
your own straw man: you don't *have* to have aero to run vista  stevey_d | 09/02/06
steve_d: You need to read the whole thread.  Zogg | 09/02/06
I've been buying Dell for a number of years  stevey_d | 09/02/06
You've got Messed up thinking, George...  CxO_trainee | 09/01/06
On the contrary ...  mwagner@... | 09/01/06
Not in *our* office. No way, absolutely no how.  Zogg | 09/01/06
Vista and Aero  Wolfie2K3 | 09/01/06
yep my $40 card works fine  stevey_d | 09/02/06
mine too happy  alex_b | 09/20/06
Can Vista use dual core?  mighetto | 08/31/06
Windows has been multithreaded  mdemuth | 08/31/06
Apple sucks, as always.  jsaltz | 08/31/06
And yet the irony is the Mac Mini will run Vista just fine...  Richard Flude | 08/31/06
Let's know our history  Richard Flude | 08/31/06
I know my history all too well  mdemuth | 08/31/06
Perhaps a revisionist view  Richard Flude | 08/31/06
Not just the threading model  mdemuth | 08/31/06
wow...  ladyirol | 08/31/06
C'mon home  Richard Flude | 09/01/06
All Vista versions support dual core and 64 bit  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/06
All Windows NT based versions do  alvinguzman@... | 09/01/06
One correction  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/06
RE: Can Vista use dual core?  joe6pack_z | 09/04/06
Vista Won't Run on a $1000 Box  Harry Bardal | 08/31/06
Did I miss something?  ladyirol | 08/31/06
Yes you did.  toadlife | 08/31/06
Earlier in this thread I accused George Ou...  bportlock | 09/01/06
What?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/06
Typo  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/06
Rebuttals...  bportlock | 09/01/06
In my company  eb276 | 09/01/06
The point  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/06
Why spend $1000 today?  CxO_trainee | 09/01/06
It is hard to list the advantages of Vista  stevey_d | 09/02/06
Need/have a basic computer  pete@... | 09/01/06
Basic transportation today ...  mwagner@... | 09/01/06
re: need/have a basic computer  Wolfie2K3 | 09/01/06
Good article, Ed but ...  mwagner@... | 09/01/06
I understand...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/06
I also built a $1k Vista box, not hard to do  darkside@... | 09/01/06
Feh... Mr Biz has his head up where the sun don't shine.  Wolfie2K3 | 09/01/06
Ok Ed, you win...I can buy a Vista machine for 500 bucks, but.....  Yodaddy | 09/02/06
You're missing an important possibly huge cost.  arjay@... | 09/03/06
Reread trhe original post  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/03/06
why argue?  not_exactly_a_newb | 09/04/06
More than just the hardware cost to upgrade  robertk2 | 09/07/06
Gee, you mad fudsters have to turn about  Boot_Agnostic | 09/07/06
But a Vista-compatible LAPTOP will cost $2000  rh0 | 09/09/06
$1,000 Vista machine? Easy.  WindSinger | 09/15/06
RE: On the trail of the $1000 Vista PC  ajollyman | 06/09/08

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