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October 9th, 2009

The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista

Posted by Ed Bott @ 1:49 pm

Categories: Hardware, Windows 7

Tags: Dell Computer Corp., Microsoft Windows Vista, Hardware Maker, Hardware, Current Model, Driver Hiccup, Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Operating Systems

You want to know why Windows 7 isn’t going to be another Vista? Here’s one big reason: drivers. This time, hardware makers seem to be keeping pace with the operating system and the hardware.

Case in point: I’ve spent the past three months collecting detailed reports about 10 systems I’ve been using to test-drive the final version of Windows 7. One is a Dell Studio XPS 13 notebook. It’s sleek, fast, and good looking, with some little touches that I’ve really come to like: an illuminated keyboard and automatic logon via facial recognition. But it has also suffered from one nagging issue that other owners of this machine have complained about as well. After resuming from sleep, the wired network connection refuses to work and stays on strike until a restart. The touchpad also occasionally works in erratic fashion, with some pointer movements jittering across the screen.

So I was very pleasantly surprised today when I logged onto Dell’s support site, selected this model from my systems list, and saw a new Windows 7 x64 category. Even better, the available downloads include a new BIOS, date-stamped September 16, and new drivers for the Nvidia chipset, dated today. There are also new drivers (just released yesterday) for the IDT audio subsystem and for the Synaptics touchpad. The QuickSet software that enables hardware buttons has an August date stamp. (There’s no update yet for the Nvidia Nforce network adapter, so I used the Vista x64 model instead.)

How much trouble was it to get all those changes slipstreamed into the system?

It took about 20 minutes (including three reboots) to download all the updates, flash the BIOS, uninstall the old QuickSet and touchpad driver packages, and install the various updated driver packs.

When I was done, I let the system go to sleep and then resumed it; the network was active immediately. And the touchpad now responds smoothly to input.

That sounds like a lot of work, and it is. But it will involve no work for anyone buying this notebook model with Windows 7 already loaded, a configuration that Dell will no doubt offer on this system as soon as they are contractually able to do so. Avoiding the hassle of OS and driver upgrades is a good reason to take Dell up on their Windows 7 Free and Easy Upgrade program. You place the order now, they’ll install Windows 7 and deliver it around October 22. (You don’t pay until it ships.)

I thought it was also interesting to note that for this model Dell includes only x64 drivers. Current models are only available with the 64-bit version of Windows Vista. Judging by this driver update, 32-bit versions of Windows 7 will be at least partially supported.

Back in early 2007, when Windows Vista shipped, hardware makers were struggling to keep up. Early releases of some drivers were unbearably bad, and it took about six to eight months after Vista’s launch for a full selection of decent drivers to appear for many common devices.

Today, two weeks before the launch of Windows 7, the video drivers are ready and waiting. The three biggest names, Nvidia, ATI, and Intel, have recent releases of universal drivers that work shockingly well. That was not the case with Vista. Definitely not.  I’ve seen a steady stream of drivers delivered via Windows Update as well, for things like audio adapters and network controllers and fingerprint readers. The system makes an occasional mistake, but those have been extremely rare, in my experience.

At one point this summer, a well-informed source told me that Microsoft expected 8 million people to be actively participating in the Windows 7 beta program at its peak. I imagine that several times that many computers are running it now. If there were significant driver issues, we would have heard the screams by now. But I’m hearing surprisingly few complaints.

Driver hiccups are a natural part of any upgrade cycle. This time, though, most of those hiccups happened quietly offstage, during the three months since mid-July, when hardware makers and system builders got their hands on the final bits. As my experience proved to me today, most hardware makers are ready this time around.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista
You actually need to be able to install the damn thing!

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Posted by: QueenMama Posted on: 10/28/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Any driver success stories (or horror stories) to tell?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/09/09
100% of Vista drivers have worked so far  NonZealot | 10/09/09
I agree with this 100%  ye | 10/09/09
vista to win7  ngtwolf | 10/09/09
I have 64bit Vista that runs my Magicjack without any problems.  windozefreak | 10/12/09
magicJack & 64bit Win7  Jim Johnson | 10/18/09
ridiculous  elllroy | 10/10/09
Brainwashing doesn't work on everyone.  Bozzer | 10/10/09
Hi, pleased to meet you...  Sleeper Service | 10/10/09
Funny man  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
UAC is for low level noobs...  Tommy S. | 10/13/09
LOL, maybe to identify "power users"  rtk | 10/13/09
No brain at all my friend  sjaak327 | 10/14/09
No, anybody with a brain  UAC nanny screen | 10/14/09
Even Bill Gates doesn't think much of Vista  UAC nanny screen | 10/14/09
@ UAC: If you're gonna make a point....  Wolfie2K3 | 10/14/09
Works for me, wolfie  UAC nanny screen | 10/14/09
Sorry to burst your bubble...  Lester Young | 10/12/09
And yet Apple's market share continues to grow:P  James Quinn | 10/12/09
Their sales ..  jongunn@... | 10/13/09
There is one point that you got wrong.  Dealing | 10/10/09
Can you link me to the article please?  Sleeper Service | 10/11/09
I turn it off every time  ChazzMatt | 10/12/09
You say MS doesn't care about security  LiquidLearner | 10/12/09
Windows 7 agrees with me  ChazzMatt | 10/13/09
Not the numbers I heard  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/11/09
Means nothing, Ed  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
You just confirmed...  windozefreak | 10/12/09
Tell that to the thousands of bloggers out there  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
what we have here  gnesterenko | 10/13/09
what we have here  UAC nanny screen | 10/13/09
Cancel and Allow isn't sucurity.  mjolnar@... | 10/12/09
You're looking at it backwards, LUA is security  rtk | 10/12/09
Unix and Linux require that you use a password.  mjolnar@... | 10/12/09
I doubt it really matters either way...  kanati | 10/12/09
Funny thing is...  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
@UAC Nanny  gnesterenko | 10/13/09
@gnestinko  UAC nanny screen | 10/13/09
So do standard user accounts on Vista/Win7  rtk | 10/12/09
Yes  sjaak327 | 10/14/09
@NonZealot  mathcreative | 10/12/09
question  gnesterenko | 10/13/09
Question  tikigawd | 10/12/09
One issue with a TV card  LeoD | 10/09/09
I have a Toshiba laptop which was missing some drivers..  eqpc | 10/09/09
Yes...  Dave32265 | 10/09/09
Not sure which card you mean  gnesterenko | 10/13/09
Running Windows 7 no problems  nccastle@... | 10/09/09
WMC 7 is nothing short of amazing  Duke E. Love | 10/09/09
Bit of an annoyance with a gigabyte MB  rtk | 10/09/09
same problem same board  merc2dogs` | 10/12/09
USB bluetooth, firewall, and printer  CobraA1 | 10/10/09
Win 7 - Drivers are secondary  cpt_slog@... | 10/11/09
Many successes, but...  Thunderbuck | 10/12/09
Dell has not kept up with drivers  billjacobus1 | 10/17/09
Really?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/17/09
Install Horrors!  QueenMama | 10/28/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  DarkLynx | 10/09/09
The first reason why Windows 7 will succeed is  chrome_slinky@... | 10/09/09
If that were true...  Sleeper Service | 10/10/09
Your right  JasonJD48 | 10/10/09
Most people haven't heard of Ubuntu  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
You are correct  gnesterenko | 10/13/09
He's so correct  compudog | 10/13/09
That's right  UAC nanny screen | 10/13/09
Have you used any of it?  UAC nanny screen | 10/13/09
"inability to do any modern gaming"  Dave32265 | 10/13/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  TomislavRed | 10/09/09
Ho-boy, I have to install HacktiveX...  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
Whose fault was the early Vista driver mess?  LeoD | 10/09/09
@LeoD  Axsimulate | 10/09/09
I think it's a combination of the two.  ye | 10/09/09
Microsoft didn't lead, vendors didn't believe  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/09/09
I dont know...  NoThomas | 10/10/09
Your sources are suspect  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/10/09
My sources are dead on...  NoThomas | 10/12/09
What does that have to do with drivers?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/12/09
I see the point..  NoThomas | 10/12/09
Drivers for Vista  Budster1 | 10/12/09
Drivers will always be an issue in Windows.  mjolnar@... | 10/12/09
At least the manufacturers Will Write Drivers ...  babyboomer57 | 10/13/09
Huh?...  Dave32265 | 10/13/09
Another Know-It-All ..  babyboomer57 | 10/17/09
WOW....  Dave32265 | 10/17/09
Thanks for trying, BUT don't you think I tried those?  babyboomer57 | 10/18/09
This is no surprise given Windows 7 essentially uses the same...  ye | 10/09/09
What did you say about Vista?  spinit | 10/09/09
There were thousands of drivers  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/09/09
Missed my point  spinit | 10/11/09
Yawn  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/11/09
Thousands are not enough  Zdnetmail1 | 10/11/09
Damn statistics (you made up anyway)  Patanjali | 10/12/09
Re: Vista drivers  flboffin | 10/12/09
Ed, no need to get excited. He was right.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/11/09
Yawn  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/11/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  ngtwolf | 10/09/09
Rolling eyes  wolf_z | 10/10/09
Yep, we do.  TriangleDoor | 10/12/09
Nonsense  de-void | 10/12/09
Well said!  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
"I'm considerably tech savvy" ... erm, no, you're not  de-void | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  girishadurrel | 10/09/09
Download the Vista Driver from HP for it. NT  AboveAverageJoe | 10/10/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  jamessdfgf | 10/09/09
ABOVE POST IS SPAM !!!  mik3 | 10/13/09
i had issues  xicanonaztlanca | 10/09/09
If you have no problems why update the Bios  Michael L Hereid Sr | 10/10/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  CharlesEtheridge@... | 10/09/09
Very easy and straightforward  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/09/09
VERY easy  Thunderbuck | 10/12/09
I agree, actually  CobraA1 | 10/09/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  Bryan Price | 10/09/09
Are you saying that updating your BIOS physically harmed your computer?  de-void | 10/12/09
I gave Win7 a try ... it is OK, but still has issues  wackoae | 10/09/09
Hmmm..  eqpc | 10/10/09
Sounds like you have some pretty bad hardware  CobraA1 | 10/10/09
Never heard of AHCI .... just Google.  wackoae | 10/10/09
I disagree  CobraA1 | 10/11/09
Your AHCI issues are most likely driver related  de-void | 10/12/09
Wish I could blame it on a driver(s)  wackoae | 10/12/09
The problem is ...  de-void | 10/22/09
re: Eclipse  WarhavenSC | 10/12/09
It took me over a month to narrow down the problem to SWT  wackoae | 10/12/09
Apparently the problem was in MS side ......  wackoae | 10/18/09
You misunderstand  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/19/09
There is a bigger ...  johnfenjackson@... | 10/10/09
To me, "capable" doesn't mean "does a great job" ...  de-void | 10/12/09
The Only _Practical_ Reason  voltrarian | 10/10/09
It is.  CobraA1 | 10/10/09
I had some problems...  NoThomas | 10/10/09
My experience as well  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/10/09
For that reason  Michael Kelly | 10/12/09
If your experience is anything like mine, you'll upgrade to Win7 and ...  de-void | 10/12/09
I have something to share  ravi16aug@... | 10/10/09
Did you check the Windows Update Catalog?  de-void | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  binaryspiral | 10/10/09
Don't get hung up on numbers  honeymonster | 10/10/09
You've been misinformed  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/10/09
The funny numbers game.  PlayFair | 10/11/09
Only issue has been the Palm Centro.  PlayFair | 10/11/09
Thank Windows Update! happy  de-void | 10/12/09
Vista failure not just hardware driver related.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/11/09
Like which ones?  markbn | 10/11/09
Vista was a good operating system  Lerianis10 | 10/11/09
And the average...  Dave32265 | 10/12/09
Audio driver support infinitely better with Win7  Patanjali | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  chris_x | 10/12/09
Audio Driver  curtis18 | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  sckenney@... | 10/12/09
Windows 7: Hit and Miss Drivers  mblock@... | 10/12/09
The biggest reasons...  NStalnecker | 10/12/09
Productivity...  Dave32265 | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  gagan.sethi@... | 10/12/09
Boot up in 0.2sec or it is Vista again  Donald.Nagy@... | 10/12/09
Who cares?  NStalnecker | 10/12/09
Grandpa don't care !  Donald.Nagy@... | 10/12/09
I thought  Galactica Actual | 10/12/09
Grandpa don't know.  rtk | 10/12/09
RE: Boot up in 0.2sec or it is Vista again  voltrarian | 10/12/09
What machine boots up in 0.2 sec?  tikigawd | 10/12/09
technology found in telecommunications networks.  Donald.Nagy@... | 10/13/09
speed of light vs...  thrownstone | 10/15/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  Seryy Volk | 10/12/09
These won't work?  NStalnecker | 10/12/09
Scanners are a problem across the board  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  TechieJohn2 | 10/12/09
RE: Mostly OK  ArtShapiro | 10/12/09
Drivers were symptom, not a reason.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/09
Good point! Sort of reminds me of Apple and Copland:P  James Quinn | 10/12/09
You nailed it, NoAxe.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/12/09
So soon?  NStalnecker | 10/12/09
Yes, so soon.  CounterEthicsCommissioner-23034636492738337469105860790963 | 10/12/09
Thats not the point of service packs.  Galactica Actual | 10/12/09
That's not what SP2 in XP was  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
XP SP 2 was different...  Galactica Actual | 10/12/09
Sounds like the difference between Vista and Win-7  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/09
@Galactica...  UAC nanny screen | 10/12/09
Even Bill Gates said it sucked.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/09
Flashing BIOS RE: The single  voltrarian | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  Goldcds | 10/12/09
Don't ALL Vista Drivers Work on Windows 7?  Boulder_Bum | 10/12/09
No. sad  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/09
The only SANE thing to do......  James Quinn | 10/12/09
The biggest problem has been with fingerprint readers  Speednet | 10/12/09
Depends a lot on the sensor your PC/Laptop has.  magius | 10/13/09
Why Windows is insecure ... RE: The single biggest  voltrarian | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  voltrarian | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  yjjay | 10/12/09
Try as I may...  Dave32265 | 10/12/09
WOW  yjjay | 10/12/09
Ummmm...  Dave32265 | 10/12/09
Microsoft - Do The Right Thing  dhamilt01@... | 10/12/09
Microsoft Doesn't make drivers!!!!!!!!!  Galactica Actual | 10/12/09
Why not?  Michael Kelly | 10/12/09
Actually, they do  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/12/09
True, look how many times they have tried to get mice right.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/09
In fact....  Lester Young | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  michael31412 | 10/12/09
What about the Vista orphans?  mikifinaz1@... | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  creep144 | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  furkman | 10/12/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  kevsan | 10/12/09
Already got that.  AndyPagin | 10/13/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  dprozzo | 10/12/09
Windows 7 won't be another Vista?  marc_90292@... | 10/13/09
Not a big change  NStalnecker | 10/13/09
The user interface wasn't the problem.  AndyPagin | 10/13/09
Actually it wasn't drivers that pushed me away from Vista.  914four | 10/13/09
And people say it takes an expert to install Linux?  Henry Miller | 10/13/09
And people say it takes an expert to install Linux?  AndyPagin | 10/13/09
BIOS isn't Linux  rtk | 10/13/09
You seem to have missed my point...  Henry Miller | 10/13/09
Nope, didn't miss it.  rtk | 10/13/09
Then why...  Henry Miller | 10/13/09
Where did he say Win7 wouldn't work without it?  rtk | 10/13/09
How do you know what Ed would've done?  UAC nanny screen | 10/13/09
Never been to dell support I guess  rtk | 10/13/09
The missing details  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/14/09
Thanks Ed.  rtk | 10/14/09
HP Bus Inkjet 1100 - no drivers  bobavery | 10/13/09
Time to buy a new printer.  de-void | 10/22/09
RE: Reasons why 7 may be another Vista  cd003284@... | 10/13/09
Windows 7 drivers are just refined Vista drivers  mwagner@... | 10/13/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  deowll | 10/13/09
Big difference...  Dave32265 | 10/13/09
OSX Snow Leopard running Windows 7 in VMWare Fusion = AMAZING  timothyt@... | 10/14/09
RE: The single biggest reason why Windows 7 won't be another Vista  QueenMama | 10/28/09

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