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October 27th, 2009

Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?

Posted by Ed Bott @ 10:55 am

Categories: Windows 7

Tags: Microsoft Corp., Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Operating Systems, Software, Ed Bott

Microsoft is doing almost everything right with Windows 7. Rock-solid engineering, energetic marketing, great outreach to hardware and software partners. Microsoft bloggers actively share information and take feedback. Collectively, the company does everything you would expect from a smart company nearly a full decade into the 21st Century.

Almost.

One group at Microsoft seems to be stuck in 1999. For some inexplicable reason, the technical team responsible for packaging and manufacturing and selling Windows 7 has decided to clam up about a product it is selling by the truckload.

Did you just get a retail upgrade copy of Windows 7? Do you have questions about how it works? Sorry, I probably don’t know the answers. And I can’t point you to anyone who does know how this product works.

It’s not for lack of trying. For three solid months, I have been pestering people at Microsoft and its PR agency for technical details on Windows 7 upgrade products. I got nothing but polite refusals. At the Windows 7 launch last week, I spent some quality time with fellow Windows expert Paul Thurrott, who told me his experience has been identical.

And now, a week later, still no comment.

In the run-up to the October 22 launch, my TechNet and MSDN memberships allowed me to download full copies of every retail edition of Windows 7. I also received an advanced box copy of Windows 7 Ultimate. I know how those full packaged products work and can answer questions with confidence based on months of hands-on experience.

But the upgrade media was literally impossible to acquire until last Thursday. Thanks to Amazon.com, I finally received the four copies of Windows 7 I ordered in July at Microsoft’s special promotional prices: two copies each of the upgrade versions of Windows 7 Home Premium and Professional. Using one of those copies, I was able to do some preliminary, limited testing and write up my results.

I need to do a lot more testing before I can say with confidence that I understand how the upgrade versions of Windows 7 work. That task would be relatively straightforward if Microsoft had documented the product at MSDN and TechNet and even the OEM Partner Center in its usual thorough way. If that documentation existed, I could verify that its details are accurate and put together some testing scenarios to look for exceptions and gotchas.

But there is no documentation, so the only alternative is to reverse-engineer the upgrade process through controlled testing using a full matrix of hardware, previously installed software, and Windows editions.

Wish me luck: Reverse-engineering these procedures is a labor-intensive, time-consuming process. There are many combinations of PCs and Windows versions and multiple entry points to the upgrade process.

Nor is this sort of testing merely tedious. It’s also destructive. The only way to confirm that an installation really and truly worked is to enter a product key and activate it. But as soon as you activate a Windows product key against Microsoft’s servers, poof! It’s marked as used and it no longer works the way a new, shrink-wrapped box and fresh product key will work. That’s fine for a consumer, but it’s a dealbreaker in a testing lab.

So what is the problem? How come this information is being guarded as if it were the GPS coordinates of the undisclosed location where the Secret Service keeps Vice Presidents? Does Microsoft not understand that information abhors a vacuum and that the most likely outcome of stonewalling on this issue is that people will simply make stuff up or post inflammatory (and wrong) conclusions based on something that happened to a friend of some guy who posted on a message board?

It is not like we are asking for the secret formula for Coca-Cola or blueprints to build a dirty bomb. This is documentation about a product that will be sold by the tens of millions in the next year. For the many people who provide official and unofficial support for Windows users, this is essential information.

Set it free, please.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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  • Most Recent of 108 Talkback(s)
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?
Seems like M$ is still being stupid which is why I refuse to use their products anymore, Mac and Linux for me from now on.... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Goldcds Posted on: 11/13/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Yep, same here ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
With you ...  n0neXn0ne | 10/27/09
Believe it or not ...  Adrian Kingsley-HughesZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
I can see why they're feeling picked-on  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/27/09
Ditto:  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/09
Message has been deleted.  Fark | 10/27/09
Message has been deleted.  n0neXn0ne | 10/27/09
not me...  Fark | 10/27/09
???  James T. Kirk | 10/27/09
Spoiler...  Fark | 10/27/09
nope... not a deep agent.  Fark | 10/27/09
Nice  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
thanks!  Fark | 10/27/09
Surprised...  Fark | 10/27/09
Interestingly enough  CobraA1 | 10/27/09
Not laziness, IMO  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
If MS does it - it has to be perfect or everyone goes ape s&!t...  Fark | 10/27/09
For the prices they charge...  UAC nanny screen | 10/29/09
exactly right...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/28/09
They are walking a thin line.  xuniL_z | 10/29/09
That would cost money  UAC nanny screen | 10/29/09
interesting...  Fark | 10/27/09
Not reverse engineering.  CobraA1 | 10/27/09
Definitions  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
Still not sure  CobraA1 | 10/27/09
Fine  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
Reverse Engineering  M.R. Kennedy | 10/27/09
Phoenix  BitBanger!USA | 10/27/09
They should not have needed to...  mrlinux | 10/28/09
And that is from someone who makes their living...  mrlinux | 10/28/09
And that remark was from someone who apparently....  xuniL_z | 10/29/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  smearp | 10/27/09
No, they don't  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
What if? What if? What if?  andrej770 | 10/27/09
Agreed - Documentation in this case would be a sign of failure  croberts | 10/27/09
You're confused  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
I dont think the lack of upgrade docs means failure  andrej770 | 10/27/09
You misunderstand  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
ok, now that I can understand!  andrej770 | 10/27/09
I can probably answer two of your questions...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/28/09
Those aren't answers  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/28/09
DUH !!!!  Budster1 | 10/28/09
Microsoft windows 7 upgrades  pagraves | 10/28/09
Right On..  CustomComputers | 10/29/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Loverock Davidson | 10/27/09
No  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
Undisclosed Location GPS Coordinates  HollywoodDog | 10/27/09
Just ask Joe Biden  beowulf74 | 10/27/09
Just ask Joe  JJ Brannon | 10/28/09
So what's the big deal?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/27/09
Rock-solid engineering? You mean they finally removed the registry?  HypnoToad72 | 10/27/09
No...  Sleeper Service | 10/28/09
Not quite  rahbm | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  TsarNikky | 10/27/09
My Hypothesis  mikefarinha | 10/27/09
More complicated than that  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
What I hate is the assumption all PCs are on the internet.  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/27/09
re:What I hate is the assumption all PCs are on the internet.  n0neXn0ne | 10/27/09
And lots are installing behind a secured wireless ..  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  slopoke | 10/27/09
Cringely...  M.R. Kennedy | 10/27/09
That was incoherent  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
Win7 upgrade over Win7 Beta  M.R. Kennedy | 10/27/09
Those are upgrades  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/27/09
Thanks!  M.R. Kennedy | 10/28/09
No upgrade.. You need to do a clean install  Wolfie2K3 | 10/28/09
Boy am I stupid-- bet I'm not alone.  rfegeas | 10/28/09
Worked for me  jrbales@... | 10/28/09
Apparently, not even Microsoft knows...  eMJayy | 10/27/09
Heh. Leave it to Microsoft....  NStalnecker | 10/27/09
My upgrade experience so far  marks055@... | 10/27/09
Why are you moving to W7ista?  mlindl | 10/28/09
We use Windows...  Sleeper Service | 10/28/09
"Well, I think you folks need to start taking the log out of "  James T. Kirk | 10/28/09
What are you smoking?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/28/09
Macs are neat, if you're a kid or an artist...  dcristof | 10/28/09
Why are you staying with Apple?  M.R. Kennedy | 10/28/09
$250 ? Most of us paid $49.95 for each upgrade (nt)  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
i tell you what's the deal  ljenux-23043766007667558234416105604265 | 10/28/09
I'm out in the cold, too  woody@... | 10/28/09
RE: Overpriced Windows 7 Upgrade  1ceman_z | 10/28/09
OK, how about $135 for 3 user family pack ..  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
beta upgrades?  mitch.gart@... | 10/28/09
Beta Upgrades..  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
I guess I understand why Microsoft might ...  mwagner@... | 10/28/09
Windows 7 64 sucks with Firefox and music  Randalllind | 10/28/09
Using Win7 x64 with Firefox to post this comment  rtk | 10/28/09
I believe it has to do with Realtek HD  Randalllind | 10/29/09
Horror Stories: Install Failures!  QueenMama | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Budster1 | 10/28/09
Download and install Windows Upgrade Advisor  Aboleyn | 10/28/09
It's not an upgrade though is it?  GOTBO | 10/28/09
pharma parallel: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  binstock@... | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Boykin01 | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  cosuna | 10/28/09
You know what they say about opinions ...  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
XP Pro SP3 to Win7 Pro Upgrade  russhouck | 10/28/09
RE Student Upgrad: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Pookie12 | 10/28/09
Try booting to the DVD to start the install  babyboomer57 | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  dobick@... | 10/28/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  expertcritic | 10/28/09
Severely overpriced  KrazyGuy | 10/28/09
they can wait until hell freezes over  satovey@... | 10/29/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  techfix | 10/28/09
Microsoft: If you do a clean install upgrade version it's illegal  Randalllind | 10/29/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Vandy-SJ | 10/29/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  curog | 11/02/09
RE: Dear Microsoft: What's the deal with Windows 7 upgrades?  Goldcds | 11/13/09

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