So let it be written...
cnfrisch | 10/11/06
|

Want to try that again?
Ed Bott | 10/11/06
|
 
Final Licensing agreement not yet written
cnfrisch | 10/11/06
|
  
Follow the links, dude...
Ed Bott | 10/11/06
|
  
Agreed, it will be changed, the above is clearly a mistake
TripleII | 10/12/06
|
   
Mike Cox you're not.
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
    
The problem...
Laurel Raven | 10/12/06
|
    
Laughing Out Loud!
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
    
Gotta Agree . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
  
Odd are...
BitTwiddler | 10/12/06
|
   
should be illegal
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
Read Your History
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
 
He's quoting The Ten Commandments movie
t_mohajir | 10/12/06
|
  
Which bit did you have in mind?
bportlock | 10/12/06
|
   
I kinda prefer . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
 
Lordy...I have 4 machines in a constant state of upgrade
rdhalsteatzd | 10/12/06
|
  
End of support for XP is...
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
   
PLEASE!
Laurel Raven | 10/12/06
|
    
He won't tell you ....
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
     
Provide your source.
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
     
Response to: Carhu . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
  
RE: Lordy...I have 4 machines in a constant state of upgrade
Protagonistic | 10/13/06
|

Just what does this say
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

Think you're Yul Brenner / Ramses?
Xwindowsjunkie | 10/16/06
|

I seem to remember
rflanagan@... | 11/09/06
|
Potential nightmare
nightman45 | 10/11/06
|

Heck, I am staying at WindBlows2000
Old Timer 8080 | 10/11/06
|

Obvious question
tic swayback | 10/12/06
|
 
I'd say it will increase piracy
voska | 10/12/06
|
  
I agree.
pillbug22 | 10/12/06
|
   
No more Enterprise Licenses for you
mmcclure79 | 10/12/06
|
  
You don't buy the product ...
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
   
Perhaps but just because it is written does not make it RIGHT!
Laff | 10/13/06
|
    
WhipperSnappers Don't Know
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
Don't Steal. Just Leave Microsoft
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

Bull Crap...
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|
One more reason to really, really hate Gates
jlafitte | 10/11/06
|

Don't hate Gates
cyber_rigger@... | 10/12/06
|
 
I disagree.
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
  
Here! Here!
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

That's stupid
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
 
Gates won't notice because he is BAILING!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
  
No Apple tells you what hardware you can run ...
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
   
RE: No Apple tells you what hardware you can run ...
Protagonistic | 10/13/06
|
   
ShadeTree, you don't know what you're talking about...
pbromelkamp | 10/13/06
|
   
"Living is easy with eyes closed ..."
Cardhu | 10/14/06
|

Gates is not involved with this
DarthRidiculous | 10/12/06
|

"Anger is an acid ..."
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

VISTA Licensing
tim@... | 10/17/06
|

Message has been deleted.
Linux_Fanboy | 10/18/06
|
New transfer limits are nuts
mekhongkurt@... | 10/11/06
|

Sorry, but they can do it. Unless they can't.
jlafitte | 10/11/06
|
 
XP copies are sold, not licensed in my country
XP user | 10/13/06
|
  
After Microsoft turns your copy off....
WiredGuy | 10/15/06
|
   
MS will most likely turn on any copy if they see a lawsuit comming their...
XP user | 10/15/06
|
   
RE: After Microsoft turns your copy off....
mypl8s4u2 | 10/15/06
|
    
I agree with you
btalex1990 | 10/23/06
|
  
I'm intrigued as to why you think you own it?
IT Makes Sense | 10/16/06
|
   
No contract means no license, right?
XP user | 10/17/06
|
  
Not much chance of that here.
Laurel Raven | 10/19/06
|

Re: New transfer limits are nuts
none none | 10/12/06
|

New transfer limits are nuts
fewinters@... | 10/12/06
|
 
Transfer limits will limit sales
John_Doe69 | 10/12/06
|
  
Duh! Prices NEVER drop for Microsoft Operating Systems!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
   
XP Support ends...
ddagolfr | 10/16/06
|
  
In the long run...
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|

Limit New Transfer Limits Are Nuts
CosmoTopper | 10/12/06
|
 
Suse 10.1 and XGL
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|
 
Keeping Up With News
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
 
RE: Limit New Transfer Limits Are Nuts
mypl8s4u2 | 10/15/06
|

You don't buy Windows like a Car .
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
 
Soon you won't be able to buy a car like a car...
Laff | 10/13/06
|
 
Okay, You Do Business With Who You Like
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
 
licensee agreed to by you?
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
And if you don't like the license . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
 
"Agreement"
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
Sneaky change??
john_galt@... | 10/11/06
|

Yes, people should ask for their money back.
Zogg | 10/12/06
|

Sneaky Indeed!
Altiris_Grunt | 10/12/06
|
 
But Truth In Advertising
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
 
RE: Sneaky indee!
mypl8s4u2 | 10/15/06
|
  
Some Cogent Posts, Thank You
Cardhu | 10/16/06
|

1 question...
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/06
|
 
Re: Sneaky Indeed
Altiris_Grunt | 10/13/06
|
  
Who amongst us
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

It's buried in a 14 PAGE Agreement!
BitTwiddler | 10/12/06
|
 
Yeah
GeoPrime | 10/12/06
|
 
So?
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
  
Really, you know about it ...
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
   
Yeah, Thanks To This Story
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
    
Acutally . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
 
You mean you didn't.......
jray@... | 10/12/06
|
  
You *bought* the car
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
   
Aint Nuthin Your Problem, Dude
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
   
Thanks, Yagotta.
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
 
unenforceable
Stiltskin | 10/16/06
|
  
Already case law against (EU)
putt1ck | 10/16/06
|
   
Already case law against (EU)
yaron@... | 10/16/06
|
   
That's Encouraging News
Cardhu | 10/16/06
|

All fine and good in theory
voska | 10/12/06
|
 
EULA Amounts To Theft
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

EULA
GeoPrime | 10/12/06
|

john_galt@ : AKA the NUT!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|

Can You Say Monopoly???
wjkahlssmd@... | 10/13/06
|

That would apply if...
Chad_z | 10/13/06
|

Backup up for a moment John.
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|

Earn A Profit Does Not Equate To Honesty
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

RE: Sneaky change??
mypl8s4u2 | 10/15/06
|
Sounds to me like...
nmh | 10/12/06
|
Personally WGA has prompted me to make the switch
mtgarden | 10/12/06
|

Yes! Making a Difference
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

WGA causes switch
roboman1@... | 11/09/06
|
 
re: WGA causes switch
sir_cheats_alot@... | 11/10/06
|
So what is a machine in MS view?
Rrushi1 | 10/12/06
|

Enforcement by activation won't work
twentw | 10/12/06
|
 
Simple ...
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

RE: what is a new machine in MS's view
sir_cheats_alot@... | 11/10/06
|
Is This License Strictly For The Release Candidate Versions?
WildcatRay | 10/12/06
|

No, these are the retail licenses
Ed Bott | 10/12/06
|
 
Why do I hear the sound of....
jgmsys@... | 10/12/06
|
  
Excessive dBA
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
   
impotent bitching and moaning
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
    
Sales will not . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|
     
Now Just A Second Here
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
  
It is probably getting really old ...
ShadeTree | 10/13/06
|
   
Riiiiight ...
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
    
Disease Of The Mind
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
     
Disease of the mind ...
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
 
Robert Vamosi's Review
Harry Bardal | 10/12/06
|
  
Y'know . . .
jlhenry62 | 10/16/06
|

No, The RC1 and Beta 2 allow it to be
cglrcng@... | 10/13/06
|
Corporate Gotcha's
mosborne | 10/12/06
|

We must not forget...
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|
Makes a lot of sense in some respects.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|

I wipe the hardware that I sell or give away ...
terry flores | 10/12/06
|
 
I guessing he means
John Zern | 10/12/06
|

I do
Patrick Jones | 10/12/06
|

I do too
Ed Bott | 10/12/06
|
 
Thanks, Ed.
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
 
Went to a recent auction...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
  
You're making an assumption here
tic swayback | 10/12/06
|
   
exactly
voska | 10/12/06
|
    
Nope
Ed Bott | 10/12/06
|
    
Sorry, but you are wrong.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
     
Who wants to be in corporate IT?
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
     
No axe's standard reply
DarthRidiculous | 10/12/06
|
     
Voska Is Correct By My Experience
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
   
No assumption...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
    
Ever heard of 'upgrade'?
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
    
You're still assuming
tic swayback | 10/13/06
|
   
Further...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
    
Ummm, ah, uh..could it be because CD dont come with some PC's?
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
    
Which proves what, exactly?
tic swayback | 10/13/06
|
    
Uhmmmm.... they don't.
startx.jeff | 10/13/06
|
     
That's A New Trick By Dell
PMC-CON | 10/21/06
|
  
Well
Patrick Jones | 10/12/06
|
   
Bull, I recently had a new customer approach me
cglrcng@... | 10/13/06
|
  
Yes, and every machine was originally sold...
jmarinis | 10/13/06
|
  
Should've arrestd Them All
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
 
Wow, you actually find people who want old stuff?
Neutrodyne | 10/13/06
|
  
Even Installing A New Program
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

Makes a lot of sense, period
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
 
Harsh!
enduser_z | 10/12/06
|

Not cool to say "Never".
Raymond Danner | 10/12/06
|
 
If that is your CHOICE, goodbye
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
  
And don't let the falling value of your Microsoft stock hit you in the arse
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
   
Dark Alley
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
Absolutely Agree
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|

Only IDIOTS do that
voska | 10/12/06
|
 
Its obvious you haven't been
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
  
And it's obvious you are a Microsoft Shill!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
   
Getting a little tiresome...
ddagolfr | 10/16/06
|
   
Don't Stoop To That Level, nomorems
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
   
And By The Way
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|

How is reselling an existing PC with the OS going to nullify the OS?
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
 
He Knows Not Of What He Speaks
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
Elsewhere in this thread
Cardhu | 10/16/06
|

Big surprise, you agree with M$(NT)
DarthRidiculous | 10/12/06
|

No it makes no sense.
mobrien_12@... | 10/12/06
|

sneaky change
fpparsons@... | 10/13/06
|

I've NEVER seen
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

Why would any one do that?
rdhalsteatzd | 10/13/06
|

On the other hand...
kingkookie | 10/17/06
|

Not Correct For Me
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
Imagine...
jasonp@... | 10/12/06
|

Sounds like Amazon Unboxed
SirLanse | 10/12/06
|
 
Those are Harsh Terms
jjarman | 10/12/06
|
  
So you are just now starting to see that?
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/06
|
   
I'n sorry, Where in AmeriCa...
John Zern | 10/12/06
|
    
Amen
hvender | 10/13/06
|
    
Well let's start with the right to protest...
Linux User 147560 | 10/13/06
|
     
Unmasked!!
ddagolfr | 10/16/06
|
     
This isn't Relevant
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
  
Think about it......
GeoPrime | 10/12/06
|
   
Speak for yourself...
Linux User 147560 | 10/13/06
|
    
Own my home.
mrlinux | 10/17/06
|
     
Wrong Yourself
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
  
All Us Congressmen
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

They already do this
tic swayback | 10/12/06
|

No need to imagine
voska | 10/12/06
|

You better check out the RIAA's latest
cglrcng@... | 10/13/06
|
Yet another reason
joe6pack_z | 10/12/06
|
It may be even worse than this!
sgg@... | 10/12/06
|

Surprise! Computer repairpersons are being put out of business!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
Wish I Had Known This Yesterday At The Trade Show
itanalyst | 10/12/06
|
This Is The MOST Retarded Move Ever On Microsoft's Part!
itanalyst | 10/12/06
|

Retarded all the way to the bank
Yagotta B. Kidding | 10/12/06
|
 
Overestimating Stupidity?
TripleII | 10/13/06
|

Microsoft's is Correct
mikeholli | 10/16/06
|
 
I Am Concerned
Cardhu | 10/16/06
|
  
Caught me!
mikeholli | 10/16/06
|

Microsoft's is Correct
mikeholli | 10/16/06
|
Corporate changes
sauerbach@... | 10/12/06
|
Kill Switch
miked@... | 10/12/06
|

Kill switch is real, and not new
cls@... | 10/12/06
|
 
Dude, you need to...
Ed Bott | 10/12/06
|
 
I Disagree With Ed
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

There'll be a hack for DRM...nature of the beast...
BrookStone5 | 10/15/06
|
 
Yes you are right
miked@... | 10/19/06
|
New Windows
keisys | 10/12/06
|
Hehehe... looks like I got out just in the nick of time!
Linux User 147560 | 10/12/06
|

You do realize
ebrke | 10/13/06
|
 
Yeah that thought did cross my mind...
Linux User 147560 | 10/13/06
|
  
In The Same Boat
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
Windows licensing
rmazzeo | 10/12/06
|

"I'll use my current copies of XP until it's not supported anymore"
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
 
He said Pro not Home
Species8472 | 10/13/06
|

Robert -
Spikey_Mike | 10/13/06
|
 
You're 100% Right
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

Influencers
quux | 10/13/06
|

Many People Consult Influencers
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
You forget
mmcclure79 | 10/12/06
|
they keep sticking it to us, release after release..
warezdog | 10/12/06
|

warezdog... Gee, pretty much says it all.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
 
Yeah, No_Ax, and Microsoft Warez is SOO much better!
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
 
Huh?
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
  
Warez is Hacked/Stolen Software
PMC-CON | 10/21/06
|
   
Opposing two presumptions
Cardhu | 10/21/06
|

???
John Zern | 10/12/06
|
 
Like The 710
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
This, WGA and DRM Making Moving Me to Linux...
BanjoPaterson | 10/12/06
|

Yawn,,, this is the yer of the Linux desktop,,,
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/12/06
|
 
Yawn...this is the yer that Microsoft get's ethical...
nomorems | 10/12/06
|
 
When School Children Want to Load Linux - MS Is In Trouble
BanjoPaterson | 10/13/06
|
  
Microsoft Axes Getting Smaller
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
I doubt we'll see much of a migration.
rdhalsteatzd | 10/13/06
|
 
Well there is wisdom in the old phrase ....
Laff | 10/13/06
|

Dropped M$ for the same reason
devlin_X | 10/30/06
|
PC rebuilds because a lack of security on Microsofts behalf
ksmith@... | 10/12/06
|

Yep, 1 Melissa type virus and it's all over
Zolar | 10/13/06
|

Corporate licences are different than end user
rdhalsteatzd | 10/13/06
|

well...
sir_cheats_alot@... | 11/10/06
|
Not a good move by Microsoft
code_Warrior | 10/12/06
|
Keep using WINDOWS XP ... JUST SAY NO TO VISTA
rh0 | 10/12/06
|

I'm a Gamer and I am still using 2000 Pro
Species8472 | 10/13/06
|

I'm A Gamer And Am Sticking With XP
itanalyst | 10/13/06
|
Pay more and more for less and less
stanmuffin | 10/12/06
|
Linux, ready or not, here I come!
raymarc001 | 10/12/06
|

It really isn't that bad.
Laurel Raven | 10/12/06
|

You are ready, and so is Linux
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
 
But it's not point and click for installs/uninstalls, AND....
Zolar | 10/13/06
|
  
Re: "You can't use any Windows software on it. "
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
  
That's why I always set dual boot if I can
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
  
linux does point and click!
devlin_X | 10/30/06
|

Are You Kidding?
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|

Linux not plug n' play?
devlin_X | 10/30/06
|
Did anybody bother to read the licence themselves?
rgopp | 10/12/06
|

What? Did you bother to read what you just said?
mugsleymug | 10/12/06
|
 
re-assign
chuckymullet | 10/13/06
|

Remedial reading help is available
DNSB | 10/13/06
|

Umm, you might want to read that again.
Rick_K | 10/13/06
|

Your Interpretation
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
re-assign
chuckymullet | 10/13/06
|

Look again
Ed Bott | 10/13/06
|
Just wait....
shonyx | 10/13/06
|
WPA might well kill your Vista system then
tony@... | 10/13/06
|
welcome to open source
Sysdad | 10/13/06
|
this new 2 unit limit bites!!
slopok8225@... | 10/13/06
|
Vista Licensing
hblanthorn@... | 10/13/06
|
Another Reason
Go_Figure | 10/13/06
|
What is a device
danny@... | 10/13/06
|
Vista's long list of limitations
dustinknope | 10/13/06
|

Reminds me of "Happy Fun Ball"
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
Install Limit
srobinson@... | 10/13/06
|
transfer?
varick | 10/13/06
|
Class Action
burtoni | 10/13/06
|

Compromise
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
 
Hit The Nail On The Head
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
  
My Favorite
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
   
Thanks!
Ole Man | 10/14/06
|

Primary Target
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
Okay... I'll finally raise my white flag.
DigitalWords | 10/13/06
|
Didn't IBM get sued for this?
erc@... | 10/13/06
|
How can they justify the high cost for retail then?
Jcato77 | 10/13/06
|

"Should Have Some Choice"
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|
Bleep them
Dave Florea | 10/13/06
|

There is no volume license for Windows
mosborne | 10/13/06
|
Retail, what about OEM?
gameschild | 10/13/06
|
Apple should love this...
ljl311@... | 10/13/06
|
Microsoft, please read (no vitriol here)
quux | 10/13/06
|
Interesting assuming computer sales don't end
aesterbrooks | 10/13/06
|

Considering a great many people still build their own...
Laff | 10/13/06
|
Vista
Lem Stem | 10/13/06
|
Should I Hire a Lawyer?
tonyrony | 10/13/06
|
No volume licenses for Windows
mosborne | 10/13/06
|

As I recall
rdhalsteatzd | 10/13/06
|
Anti-Wine/Crossover/mplayer/etc terms
mosborne | 10/13/06
|

Assimilate or be destroyed...
Linux User 147560 | 10/13/06
|
Regardless of the new Windows Vista EULA
cnfrisch | 10/13/06
|

Not really.
quux | 10/13/06
|

I Would Continue Buying One Full Retail XP
Cardhu | 10/13/06
|

Wait Till They Get A-Hold Of You
Ole Man | 10/13/06
|
Sneaky Changes to Windows Licensing
WCarlS | 10/13/06
|
1 way to stop M$ exploitation
Zolar | 10/13/06
|
How will it know?
axarce@... | 10/13/06
|

Well that's easy
TripleII | 10/13/06
|
That Did It
sleech@... | 10/13/06
|
WEEE killing it's self
mm.b@... | 10/14/06
|
You're Buying A Pig In A Poke Anymore
Cardhu | 10/14/06
|
Buying a Pig In A Poke Anymore
Cardhu | 10/14/06
|

Sorry for the repeat.
Cardhu | 10/14/06
|
Change In Microsoft Strategy
Cardhu | 10/14/06
|
Complain To FTC
Ole Man | 10/14/06
|
Interesting Remote Access Note
Ole Man | 10/14/06
|
New licensing scheme
BGBeta | 10/14/06
|
Everthing you've read so far is wrong or a myth
cnfrisch | 10/15/06
|

Some good points
danzaudio66@... | 10/15/06
|

Sorry, but Paul is just wrong
Ed Bott | 10/15/06
|
 
Re: I'll have more this week
cnfrisch | 10/15/06
|
  
Here's the link
Ed Bott | 10/16/06
|
   
Colonies & The King
bmgoodman | 10/16/06
|
Microsoft is trying to hurt the world's freedom AGAIN!
slayr-cxf50@... | 10/16/06
|
everything you've read online about the changes to Vista's license is wrong
calzonz | 10/16/06
|

He's wrong
Ed Bott | 10/16/06
|

This Position Has Been Utterly Refuted
Cardhu | 10/17/06
|
Software Licensing
kingkookie | 10/16/06
|
how about SOHO's ?
mad-man | 10/17/06
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VISTA Licensing
tim@... | 10/17/06
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To Place Trust In That Promise
Cardhu | 10/17/06
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A Legitimate question / concern
Elvis PC | 10/17/06
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My Version
marlinj@... | 10/17/06
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Ubuntu Only
wizardb@... | 10/20/06
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RE: Ubuntu Only
blaze1024 | 10/20/06
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Microsoft clarifies Vista activation
cnfrisch | 10/26/06
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That's Hopeful, But ...
Cardhu | 10/26/06
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Most of us have moved already to Linux
kljako | 11/09/06
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One System transfer
Malkavian_z | 11/09/06
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From purchaser to pirate.
slillico@... | 11/09/06
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Microsoft Licensing Surprise for developers
klevin1011 | 11/09/06
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And What of IT Support???
themediadoctor | 01/31/07
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Compaq, HP, Gateway, & Dell Selling Vista with out realistic user end f
o0splitpaw0o | 02/05/07
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right about that
paleo2316 | 02/08/07
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My suggestion
o0splitpaw0o | 03/31/07
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? re Transferring License
cgm707@... | 05/15/07
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