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November 25th, 2006

64-bit desktop on hold?

Posted by Ed Bott @ 10:33 am

Categories: Hardware, Windows Vista

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Colin Barker of ZDNet UK interviewed Microsoft server honcho Bob Muglia last week. Robert McLaws noticed this bit of news in the transcript:

Looking into the future, we will ship Longhorn (the next version of Windows Server) in the second half of next year, and we will ship a 32-bit and a 64-bit version. That will be the last time we ship a 32-bit version. From that point, the next release, which will be roughly two years later, that product will only be available as 64-bit.

I remember the transition from 16-bit Windows to 32-bit Windows in 1995. As part of a consulting contract earlier this year, I did a lot of research on the years just before and after launch of Windows 95. One thing that I had forgotten until I went back and dusted off books and magazines from those days was how long the installed base of 16-bit programs survived. I continued to use a handful of favorite 16-bit programs for several years, and in fact I just abandoned the last one a few weeks ago. (I wish that FileSync would appear in a 32-bit version, but alas, the Latest News page at FileWare's site has said, "The long awaited new release of FileSync is still under development" for at least four years now.)

During the current beta cycle for Vista, I used a 64-bit version as my main desktop OS for about a month. I was impressed with how smooth and trouble-free it generally was, although that positive feeling was greatly aided by the fact that I was able to find signed 64-bit drivers for all my hardware. My 32-bit programs ran just fine in a 32-bit subsystem, just as my 16-bit programs did back in the days of Windows 95.

This sort of transition is never completely painless, but the presence of side-by-side 32-bit and 64-bit Windows versions, first in Windows XP and now in all editions of Windows Vista, makes it much easier than a complete changeover would be.

With the exception of bargain-basement blowouts based on the last trickle of the Pentium 4 and Celeron product lines, virtually every new PC sold today is capable of running a 64-bit operating system. In fact, it's pretty easy to find a 64-bit system with adequate RAM for well under $1000. But you'll have to jump through a lot of hoops to load a 64-bit operating system on that box. Most PC makers don't offer 64-bit software on their mainstream lines, and Microsoft has decided, sensibly, that it won't include the 64-bit version of Vista in any of its retail boxes; you'll have to order a DVD and have it shipped separately.

The real barrier to wider adoption of 64-bit technology isn't hardware or the OS. It's the lack of compelling software. On the server side, there are great reasons to move to 64-bit technology for scaling databases and handling massive numbers of transactions. But where are the equivalent challenges for desktop users? With the exception of people running workstation-class video editing systems, who needs a 64-bit system?

… Oh, and did you notice the date casually tossed in there? "[T]he next release, which will be roughly two years later…" Wonder if the same applies to desktop operating systems?

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Why is'nt it a problem for OSX to support 32-bit hardware but Vista does't?
Because Apple is A HARDWARE company that also sells thier own OS to complement
thier systems. (Read the rest)
Posted by: Graham Fluet Posted on: 12/29/06 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Actually, the REAL barrier is the hardware drivers  georgeou | 11/25/06
Windows needs more generic drivers  Michael Kelly | 11/25/06
Advantage my ass  Master Tech | 11/25/06
Drivers I don't need no stinkin drivers!  Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/25/06
Big deal that is how Windows has always been  Master Tech | 11/25/06
Actually I have tried both  Michael Kelly | 11/26/06
Ridiculous!  Master Tech | 11/27/06
Well, this is just OS evolution!  mustang_z | 11/27/06
Wuss!!  toadlife | 11/27/06
Hello...  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
He has a point  bportlock | 11/25/06
How old is the Linux Build vs the Windows Build?  Master Tech | 11/25/06
Nice attempt to dodge the fact  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
In your dreams  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
Nice rebuttal Shadey ~  nomorems | 11/27/06
Re: In your dreams  Michael Kelly | 11/27/06
What is a "generic driver for Linux"?  Zogg | 11/27/06
The Linux build in question ...  bportlock | 11/27/06
How old is the Linux build vs the Windows version?  Master Tech | 11/25/06
XP-SP2 is a lot younger than 5 years old.  Zogg | 11/27/06
Microsoft does not upgrade the in the box drivers ...  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
Really? What on Earth are the service packs for then???  Zogg | 11/27/06
Service Packs are collection of bug fixes ....  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
But as you say, SP2 was an exception.  Zogg | 11/27/06
Service Pack 2 did not include drivers  ShadeTree | 11/28/06
Then I obviously need to repeat my "original contention"  Zogg | 11/28/06
SPs contain updated drivers  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/28/06
Thanks for settling that, Ed. (NT)  Zogg | 11/29/06
"Have you even used Windows?"  Ole Man | 12/02/06
i Believe that  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
That's kind of my problem  Badgered | 11/27/06
I agree 100%  Master Tech | 11/25/06
But why should I switch?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/26/06
I have to agree  Cayble | 11/26/06
The Morbidly Obese Client  Harry Bardal | 11/26/06
I think you missed my point  georgeou | 11/26/06
Who says you'd do the switching?  dave.leigh@... | 11/26/06
It's mainly the hardware accessory driver issues  georgeou | 11/26/06
That's what I meant by "drivers"  dave.leigh@... | 11/26/06
PC OEMs will be offering the 64 bit ...  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
Au contraire!  bportlock | 11/27/06
If you don't want to watch HD content ...  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
I watch HD stuff..  bportlock | 11/27/06
Why keep pushing that myth?  georgeou | 11/27/06
I stand corrected  ShadeTree | 11/28/06
Like the FCC said, it's your IP not your hardware  georgeou | 11/28/06
That would explain how the Mac OS X Leopard will be x64  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
George is right on this one.  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
What? I guess the pipeline should be small!  mustang_z | 11/27/06
I wish Adobe and Autodesk has 64 bit versions of their products  don_the_newbie | 11/27/06
George is Right  D. T. Schmitz | 11/26/06
I'll disagree  Yagotta B. Kidding | 11/27/06
Of course you will!  mustang_z | 11/27/06
Neither 1 or 2 is accurate for Vista.  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
Good ol' Linux Users, eh?  Zogg | 11/27/06
Chicken or egg?  Letophoro | 11/27/06
What you don't use the Briefcase? (Filesync)  Master Tech | 11/25/06
I use it all the time for backup  georgeou | 11/26/06
Are you Ed?  nomorems | 11/27/06
So what exactly did you contribute?  ShadeTree | 11/27/06
I thought AMD said 64bits was ready in 2003?  Prognosticator | 11/26/06
Good point  georgeou | 11/26/06
A few points  Robert Crocker | 11/27/06
Wait for Core 2 Duo? On what planet?  georgeou | 11/27/06
One of our customers....  bportlock | 11/27/06
Backup has NOTHING to do with 64 bit  georgeou | 11/27/06
Processor power...  bportlock | 11/28/06
The issue is 32 versus 64 bits. Don't change the subject to a 20 y-old PC  georgeou | 11/28/06
Anecdotal evidence has its uses....  bportlock | 11/28/06
Bottom line is that you're wrong to attribute backup speed to 32 or 64 bit  georgeou | 11/28/06
I had a 64-bit desktop machine in 1995...  jinko | 11/27/06
I had a Nintendo that was x64  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
And Intel had 32 bit in 1986; transitioned in 1995  Bill Ward | 11/28/06
Blame Microsoft  linux for me | 11/30/06
Irony is..  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
Don't forget multimedia  Michael Kelly | 11/27/06
Yeah, you're correct on that account  Linux User 147560 | 11/27/06
Good point, but  Michael Kelly | 11/27/06
Yes, if I'm correct  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
INTEL'S what's holding it up.  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 11/27/06
Wait until more people hit the 4 GB barrier.  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
Sorry, that's just...  DCMann | 11/27/06
I am so NOT going to go back to paging.  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
Don't think either is an Issue...  jpr75_z | 11/27/06
drivers/software  csmith@... | 11/27/06
Try Foldershare -- free syncing - just works  ricochet_z | 11/27/06
Lots of free non-Microsoft windows software that syncs:  nomorems | 11/27/06
I use AllwaySync  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/27/06
32 Bit FileSync  Codedigital | 11/27/06
That's what it says, but...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/27/06
64 bit  p71@... | 11/27/06
...who needs a 64-bit system?  roger.leininger@... | 11/27/06
give it time  CobraA1 | 11/27/06
I do.  Species8472 | 11/27/06
but...  redtrain65 | 11/28/06
Who Needs A 235mph Race Car?  Ole Man | 11/27/06
235mph race car & the $100 pc  s.moscovita@... | 11/28/06
Video Editing Workstation?  jollyrgr3@... | 11/27/06
You must not have looked very hard  toadlife | 11/27/06
odd...  richvball44 | 11/28/06
?!? WTF?  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
Question from an Apple idiot...  ladyirol | 11/28/06
Not until next year  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/28/06
Why is'nt it a problem for OSX to support 32-bit hardware but Vista does't?  Graham Fluet | 12/29/06
64 Bit  KKnutsson | 11/29/06
Um, yeah  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/29/06
using suitcase  farren.j@... | 11/30/06

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