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January 11th, 2007

More on Windows Vista and crapware

Posted by Ed Bott @ 3:50 pm

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Yesterday I reported on my meeting with Michael Dell, where we spoke briefly about the hassles caused by crapware. Today, coincidentally, there's a story on CBC News, which goes over the same ground from a different point of view:

A senior Microsoft Corp. executive says the company is concerned that uncertified third-party software loaded onto new computers by manufacturers could hurt the launch of consumer versions of its Windows Vista operating system later this month.

[...]

The concern arises from third-party software that hardware makers commonly install on new computers in exchange for a fee, many of which have not been tested and certified by Microsoft to work with Vista, the executive said. They include things such as links to online services, and demo versions of programs.

"We call them craplets," the official said. The term is a contraction of the words "crap" and "applet." An applet is a small computer program or application.

The success of Microsoft's first major revision to its operating system in years could rest on whether or not the uncertified applets cause widespread malfunctions in consumer versions of Windows Vista that ship with new PCs starting Jan. 30.

Reporter Saleem Khan, whose by-line appears at the end of the story, has an interesting blog, but doesn't appear to have the sort of technical background that would give me confidence about the facts behind this story. And an additional red flag goes up when the Microsoft source is anonymous. With 70,000+ employees, it's easy enough to find someone who will speak about issues that are outside of his area of competence. For what it's worth, I've spoken with plenty of Microsoft developers, executives, and mid-level functionaries, on and off the record, and I haven't heard this fear from anyone.

Crapware is undoubtedly a nuisance, and the world would be a better place if software companies would pay customers instead of bribing PC makers to install trial versions of their programs. But the companies that ship these PCs have more to lose from support costs than Microsoft, and I'm certain that they won't deploy installations that are going to cost them support dollars. I predict that this will be a non-issue when PCs preloaded with Windows Vista begin shipping at the end of this month.

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Crapware  D. T. Schmitz | 01/11/07
You could of just uninstalled the ....  ShadeTree | 01/12/07
Yeah right!  Cardinal_Bill | 01/12/07
crapware  xrayangiodoc | 01/15/07
So what you're saying  John Zern | 01/12/07
Even When Linux gains over 50% of the market...  BanjoPaterson | 04/18/07
WoW  TonyMcS | 01/11/07
So you must be running Linux too!  linux for me | 01/12/07
hmm  LinuxHippie | 01/12/07
depends on definitions....  devlin_X | 01/13/07
Except it's not professional  THEE WOLF | 01/15/07
depends what definition you choose...  mdsmedia | 01/15/07
Rumor maybe, but still True  jpr75_z | 01/12/07
Reinstalling question  tic swayback | 01/12/07
It varies from OEM to OEM and from model to model.  ShadeTree | 01/12/07
Add/Remove is nice  Patrick Jones | 01/12/07
You don't have to reinstall.  Anton Philidor | 01/12/07
Yes and No  John Zern | 01/12/07
No Dell doesn't  ChazzMatt | 01/16/07
Mine Did  fasthair | 01/17/07
The truly sad thing about crapware  msolgeek | 01/12/07
Which is why I image a new PC  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/12/07
So much trouble  dragosani | 01/12/07
Ed,  Cardinal_Bill | 01/12/07
Ed, that sounds great  msolgeek | 01/12/07
Those pre-loaded "trial applications" are straight from the depths of hell.  James T. Kirk | 01/12/07
Add another one  Moosehouse | 01/17/07
Try this  mrleo1957 | 01/22/07
A few corrections!  ShadeTree | 01/12/07
Apparently you didn't read my post  msolgeek | 01/12/07
I did.  Anton Philidor | 01/12/07
Thanks Anton  msolgeek | 01/12/07
Unsigned drivers, at least.  Grayson Peddie | 01/12/07
Not unsigned.  Anton Philidor | 01/16/07
For once I totally agree with MS  Stuka | 01/12/07
destroy crapware!  lostarchitect | 01/12/07
As Ed posted in a previous blog ...  ShadeTree | 01/12/07
Not all crapware is subsidized by other vendors  msolgeek | 01/12/07
Try to install an HP PSC?  devlin_X | 01/13/07
Give the consumer a choice then  Edward Meyers | 01/13/07
"We call them craplets," the official said.  nomorems | 01/12/07
Applet?  Cardinal_Bill | 01/12/07
Exactly  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/12/07
?  jjarman | 01/23/07
Not skeptical of CBC  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/16/07
Vista if full of crapware  martin23 | 01/12/07
MS accusing others of installing crapware, Uhmm!  jjon2121 | 01/12/07
Windows Messenger  xrayangiodoc | 01/15/07
Solution to crapware  GrimmReaperSound | 01/12/07
Bare Metal Machines  M.R. Kennedy | 01/14/07
So who's whining?  GrimmReaperSound | 01/15/07
We get barebones here!!!  scorpioso69 | 01/17/07
Re: More on Windows Vista and crapware  Altiris_Grunt | 01/12/07
Vista is crapware. period  willyu | 01/12/07
I think more does need to be said...  Badgered | 01/12/07
Facts please....  k12IT | 01/12/07
Some people love to dog things they've never used  MacGeek2121 | 01/17/07
Vista is second rate  tracy anne | 01/19/07
well I bought the beta & release candidate  stevey_d | 01/28/07
OMG!  People | 01/12/07
Mr. Pot meet Mr. Kettle  Edward Meyers | 01/13/07
Uninstalling crapware from floor models....  devlin_X | 01/13/07
New Pc's & crapware - A Reminder  amrisch069 | 01/13/07
No, that is wrong and illegal!  cnfrisch | 01/13/07
incorrect  jjarman | 01/22/07
Windows Vista = Crapware  mjk1971 | 01/15/07
Likewise to your post!  gcv | 01/24/07
Just Adds To The Pot  Ole Man | 01/16/07
Speaking of crapware, there is also "Covertware" ...  litz@... | 01/18/07
What is this based on?  Reavan | 04/06/07
This SW is a POS  mattman66 | 01/07/09
Outlook 2007 is crap  JosephDParent@... | 01/18/07
Crapware ?  digitrog | 01/18/07
Get off.....  Master Guru | 01/19/07
Use the De-Crapifier  mrleo1957 | 01/22/07
Apple gets this right  gcv | 01/24/07
Based on what?  Reavan | 04/06/07

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