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April 30th, 2007

How to get sued by Microsoft

Posted by Ed Bott @ 6:03 am

Categories: Licensing, Microsoft

Tags: Software, Volume-license, Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Office, Microsoft Windows XP Professional, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Corp., Ed Bott

Shopping at SurplusComputers.com is like poking around an especially geeky Goodwill store, Most of the goods are surplus for a reason, but occasionally you’ll find a particularly useful bit of hardware or software whose market has crested, making it a great bargain.

I’ve been receiving the company’s Deals of the Week e-mails for years, and I’ve always been puzzled by one category of offers. Back on February 4, for instance, the weekly e-mail included offers for Microsoft Windows XP Pro x64 Edition (NFR) for a mere $39.99, and Microsoft Office 2003 Pro (NFR) for $99.99. Clicking through to the website where the products themselves were sold led to an assurance that the products themselves were perfectly legal [their words, not mine] and “guaranteed to activate.” Here’s a snippet from that newsletter:

An offer for Windows XP that's too good to be true

Now, if you’ve priced Windows or Office lately, you know that those prices are literally too good to be true. Yet Surplus Computers advertised those two packages in its weekly e-mails (and apparently sold lots of copies) for more than a year before suddenly stopping last month.

So, what happened? Hmmm:

Filed in the United States District Court for the Northern District of California

Microsoft Corp. v. Intrax Group, Inc., d/b/a Surplus Computers, Michael Mak, and John Does 1-5 (Santa Clara and San Jose, California), alleging importation and distribution of infringing Windows XP Professional, Windows XP Professional x64 Edition, Office 2003 Professional Enterprise Edition, and Office 2003 Standard software. Case No. 3:07-cv-01840.

The NFR in the listing should have been a dead giveaway. It means Not for Resale, and it indicates that the original disks and keys were produced for use by schools and other qualified institutions to give to employees and faculty members for installation under the terms of an academic volume license agreement. Selling them to the public was a clear violation of Microsoft’s licensing agreement, and as the press release for the lawsuit notes, “The defendants were warned by Microsoft about infringing activities prior to filing of the lawsuit.” And they had lots of company, as this list of lawsuits makes clear.

But, like a game of Whack-A-Mole, a new offender pops up for every one that gets smacked down. In last week’s Windows Secrets newsletter, Scott Dunn passed along this money-saving tip:

OEM and academic discounts are not the only way to trim your software budget. For example, cheaper even than an OEM version is a “work at home” package of Windows XP Pro SP2 available in the U.S. for $105 from Von1. According to Christina Philpot, manager of operations at Von1, the lower price represents a promotion to home and student users — the product is not to be used for businesses.

$105 for Windows XP Pro? I checked the website and they’re selling “Work at Home” XP Pro x64 edition for $64 a copy. Sounds too good to be true, right? And indeed it is, as even a quick perusal of the Microsoft terms and conditions for this program makes clear:

Work at Home licenses for academic volume licensing customers

Education institutions that have acquired licenses through Microsoft academic volume licensing programs may grant to their faculty and staff the right to use a second copy of a limited selection of products on either a home or portable computer for work-related purposes. [emphasis in original]

You’ll find more details about distribution of this software here:

If you decide to take advantage of the Campus and School Agreement Student Option or the faculty/staff Work at Home licenses available through Microsoft Academic Volume Licensing, access to media by your users must be restricted and regulated. All media for software distributed for Work at Home or Student Option use must be acquired from a Microsoft-approved fulfillment source.

Ms. Philpot’s assertion that this program is “a promotion to home and student users” is just plain wrong. The software her company is selling was diverted from its intended market and is almost certainly being sold illegally in violation of the license agreement that governs its sale and use. And it’s terribly sloppy reporting from Windows Secrets not to check out that assertion before sending its readers off to buy software they’re not authorized to use.

I would imagine that Von1 has already received its first warning letter from Microsoft.

Now, an individual who bought a copy of Windows from one of these unauthorized sources is unlikely to appear on the radar screen of Microsoft’s legal staff. But there’s no guarantee that those product IDs will continue to work. So the question becomes, do you feel lucky?

Oh, and this week’s mailing for Surplus Computers just arrived. They’re selling what appear to be perfectly legal properly licensed OEM (System Builder) copies of Windows Vista at the same prices that all their online competitors are offering. Isn’t it amazing how a little time in a courtroom can get one’s attention?

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Charades  David Gale | 04/30/07
This is not a business strategy  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
no, THIS isn't, but it does occur (nt)  mdsmedia | 05/01/07
It is not illegal to purchase used items....why is this wrong?  rwfromkansas@... | 04/30/07
These are not used products  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
missed "not for resale"  rwfromkansas@... | 04/30/07
Software license is a lease not an ownership  varcoris@... | 04/30/07
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Not quite completely true  Ole Man | 04/30/07
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I am not a lawyer  Ole Man | 04/30/07
This is to your advantage  dave.leigh@... | 05/01/07
once purchased ?  clineholloway@... | 04/30/07
ID10T error in progress there?  sec132 | 04/30/07
You never bought Windoze in the first place  cls@... | 04/30/07
Please re-read the article  AlexanderLocke_2@... | 04/30/07
No illegality in the least  Mchapman29@... | 04/30/07
OK, you made your point  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
Are you policing the thread?  Cyraxote | 04/30/07
Depth of stupidity is astounding  Patanjali | 05/01/07
http://www.ubuntu.com  itanalyst | 04/30/07
The terms are NOT fuzzy!  Mchapman29@... | 04/30/07
Please learn which Reply button to use  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
More problems than reply buttons  Mchapman29@... | 04/30/07
I stand behind the story  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
Not sure getting it right is an "obsession"  Mchapman29@... | 04/30/07
YES!! For GODS SAKE LET IT DIE!  Chippolus | 04/30/07
Ed is right. Get over it.  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
And yes,  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
Amazing (and dumb)  Mchapman29@... | 05/01/07
Re: Amazing (and dumb)  dave.leigh@... | 05/01/07
I couldn't agree with you more...BUT...  mdsmedia | 05/01/07
Microsoft Screws its Customers too  edward.lynch@... | 04/30/07
Every free Vista Upgrade coupon that came with a new computer  Confused by religion | 04/30/07
So Am I, But It's A Problem With ModusLink...  chas_2 | 05/01/07
The terms are fuzzy in common lay usage  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
MS should provided amnesty.  criedel@... | 04/30/07
The Price of Office 2007  SecurityExpert | 04/30/07
Then stick with Office 97  PB_z | 04/30/07
The price of a Lamborghini...  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
Good point  voska | 04/30/07
Fuel  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
It's a good bet  Ole Man | 04/30/07
It's a sure bet  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
My point was  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Oh, there was a point?  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
You seem to think  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Why you should respect licenses, and advocate that others do likewise.  dave.leigh@... | 05/01/07
I will have to admitt  Ole Man | 05/01/07
There are tons of Alternatives  voska | 04/30/07
RE: There are tons of alternatives  varcoris@... | 04/30/07
More under thr hood  Patanjali | 04/30/07
And besides all that  Ole Man | 05/01/07
Que?  Patanjali | 05/02/07
No sweat  Ole Man | 05/03/07
MSFT doesn't mind theft, they mind loss of channel control  cls@... | 04/30/07
It's Not Just Microsoft That Is Hurt..  sfraider24 | 05/01/07
There is a difference  srmgr@... | 04/30/07
Not true  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
Caveat Emptor  dave.leigh@... | 04/30/07
Caveat Empor  Marcwolf1960 | 04/30/07
Actually....  Raymond Danner | 04/30/07
I know of many office suites out there  gitmo | 04/30/07
Sounds like the pot calling the kettle black!  Techlessness | 04/30/07
How much money is enough?  Khyron | 04/30/07
It doesn't matter  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
A googolplex is enough.  cybrsage13@... | 05/04/07
No sense  Cyraxote | 04/30/07
ZDNet: Out of Touch Geezers  jabailo1 | 04/30/07
"Geezers", huh?  John L. Ries | 04/30/07
Its about money  jobert48@... | 04/30/07
Ridculous  mikeholli | 04/30/07
Re:Ridculous  jpac777@... | 04/30/07
Spoken like a true 7 year old!  Chippolus | 04/30/07
Re:Re:Ridculous  mikeholli | 04/30/07
This one needs answering  John L. Ries | 04/30/07
He doesn't wok for MS  bobiroc | 04/30/07
Missed the first point  John L. Ries | 04/30/07
And so...  M.R. Kennedy | 04/30/07
"Savaged"?  John L. Ries | 04/30/07
Yes, "Savaged"  M.R. Kennedy | 05/01/07
Fortunately...  John L. Ries | 05/01/07
This is too FUNNY!!!!  mikeholli | 04/30/07
I misread your post, clearly  John L. Ries | 04/30/07
so bad?  reiknegt | 04/30/07
Maybe  Freebird54 | 04/30/07
Without MS Office still punching...  ender69@... | 04/30/07
Mild Disagreement  Red_Beard | 04/30/07
"lease access to something he didn't even own yet"  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Define 'Owned Yet'?  Marcwolf1960 | 04/30/07
You are right about one thing  Ole Man | 05/01/07
You have got to be kidding...  devlin_X | 05/01/07
I hope you don't teach history like that  mdsmedia | 05/01/07
The issue of price  trm1945 | 04/30/07
After the Fact Validation... for a price  jkumin@... | 04/30/07
Provided...  Chippolus | 04/30/07
Apple 20-30%? Not!!  djalan | 04/30/07
You never own Windows,  joe.smetona@... | 04/30/07
One correction  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 04/30/07
Thanks Ed!  joe.smetona@... | 04/30/07
"reasonable" is not in Microsoft's vocabulary  Ole Man | 04/30/07
XP Pro SP2 for $35 - that's what I paid  Don Collins | 04/30/07
STUDY XP  BALTHOR | 04/30/07
That's Just Insane  bcroner | 04/30/07
NOBODY likes to be branded as a CRIMINAL!  George Mitchell | 04/30/07
And Vista is not a crime???  curley60@... | 04/30/07
This is stupid.  neverhadachoice | 04/30/07
Smart enough not to flame other's opinions  curley60@... | 04/30/07
Validation  M.R. Kennedy | 05/01/07
The problem with that...  rapson | 05/01/07
Auto Dealership  Marcwolf1960 | 04/30/07
Get a grip on reality!  Patanjali | 05/01/07
My initial post praised microsoft for windowsXP  curley60@... | 05/01/07
Not broken, per se. If needed, wait until drivers available. Free will  Patanjali | 05/01/07
Car analogies  varcoris@... | 04/30/07
Windows parallels describe Vista perfectly  curley60@... | 04/30/07
OK my car analagies suck  curley60@... | 05/01/07
What will the market bear?  Marteny | 04/30/07
OK to Steal.  aureolin@... | 04/30/07
high five  evilkillerwhale@... | 05/16/07
Justice is a commodity  Backdoor Man | 04/30/07
Anyone can sue anyone for anything  intrepi@... | 04/30/07
bloody hell  df@... | 04/30/07
Bloody you  Ole Man | 04/30/07
How To Counter Sue Microsoft  9topaz | 04/30/07
How about you lead by example?  cybrsage13@... | 05/04/07
I remember 15 years or so ago when getting free copies from friends...  Jeff Hayes | 04/30/07
100% agree  Patanjali | 05/01/07
All just goes to prove  Ole Man | 04/30/07
Microsoft deserves to win...  devlin_X | 05/01/07
Truth about the NFR...  MDBERGER1969 | 05/01/07
NFR for whatever reason is wrong..  9topaz | 05/01/07
Microsoft v other services... Ubuntu-not!  MDBERGER1969 | 05/01/07
But how can we get Linux"out there"...  tenchidbz | 05/01/07
The secret is  Ole Man | 05/01/07
It's hard to get Linux "out there" because...  9topaz | 05/01/07
Prejudicial Sales  rtb | 05/01/07
You are half right  Ole Man | 05/01/07
UK law differs on this...  alewisa | 05/02/07
Extension to existing license. Just the media  Patanjali | 05/02/07
I handle some MS Academic licensing for a while  mtgarden | 05/02/07
Give Me a Break..... BS  usmcdvldg@... | 05/06/07
As Tom Lehrer sang  Mike Bear | 05/06/07
Heh  g33kz@... | 05/07/07
Technet  usrhlp | 05/08/07
Purchasing MS software  Info-Safety, LLC | 05/14/07
I am appalled at Microsoft clogging up our courts  annatoo9 | 05/16/07
Lemme get this straight...  evilkillerwhale@... | 05/16/07
So because it wasn't in the history book...  evilkillerwhale@... | 05/16/07

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