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May 9th, 2007

Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!

Posted by Ed Bott @ 2:38 pm

Categories: Windows Vista

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, RAM, Ed Bott

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Everyone knows Windows Vista is a resource hog. Everyone says it doesn’t even get out of first gear without a gigabyte of RAM, and it takes 2 GB before it stops stuttering and stammering with each mouse click. Everyone says Vista Home Basic is the black sheep of the family, deserving only of a sideways glance and a dismissive harrumph. That’s what I keep reading on the Internet, so it must be true.

Which is why I had steeled myself for pitiful performance when I yanked all but 512MB out of my test system last week and downgraded to Vista Home Basic. With a 2002–vintage CPU and Microsoft’s minimum recommended RAM, running the most basic of Vista retail editions on a 30GB partition, surely this would be a painful experience.

Or not.

You shouldn’t believe everything you read. I was expecting to need Valium and vodka and an on-call therapist to handle Vista Home Basic on this low-end system. Instead, I found a snappy, responsive OS that did everything I asked of it.

My primary goal was to measure startup times, answering skeptics who thought my test results from a few weeks ago were skewed by the expansive 1.5GB of RAM on this ancient P4 test machine. So I pulled out all but one stick of RAM and prepared for the worst. All you Vista bashers will be disappointed to hear what happened next:

  • The system booted two seconds faster than it had with all that extra RAM. On average, Vista’s boot time was less than 30 seconds.
  • Menus popped up instantly, with no lag or delay.
  • My favorite DVD, Blade Runner, played flawlessly at full resolution, in surround sound. (I had to install a DVD decoder first – Vista Home Basic doesn’t include DVD playback capabilities out of the box.)
  • I was able to rip a CD, check my Google Mail account on Mozilla Thunderbird, and play a full-screen slide show, all at the same time, without a single skip or hiccup. [Update: Since this seems to have confused some commenters, let me explain: I started ripping a CD, then opened Thunderbird and told it to begin downloading messages from my GMail account, and finally started a slideshow. In this case, checking e-mail was a background process. This particular account had more than 50 messages to download, including several large photo attachments.]
  • Even installing Norton Antivirus 2007 couldn’t slow things down. The Norton software added 7 seconds to my startup time, but after it loaded, everything worked exactly as expected.

To be fair, I didn’t do anything I knew would have brought this system to its knees. I didn’t try to rip a DVD, decode the human genome, or run Office 2007. But still… I’d have no qualms about handing this system over to my mom, my brother, or my best friend.

On the Windows Experience Index, this system rates a 2.0, thanks to its sluggish RAM (and even when I put those two extra 512MB sticks of RAM back in, the number doesn’t budge). The CPU on this system earned a 3.8. By contrast, Intel’s bottom-of-the-line 1.6GHz Core 2 Duo T5200, standard on every $599 notebook PC these days, rates a 4.3.

Surprisingly, even the visuals on this system were a treat. With a three-year-old video card, this system was capable of running Vista’s Aero graphics. But because Aero doesn’t run on Home Basic, I was stuck with the Vista Standard display. It lacks the transparent window borders and whizzy live previews on taskbar buttons, but otherwise the look is indistinguishable from a system running Windows Vista Ultimate.

The conventional wisdom says Vista Home Basic is a dog, and that it slows to a crawl with 512MB. Don’t believe everything you read.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!
mayb the Aero theme is causing all the problems.widout aero it works fine!! (Read the rest)
Posted by: cclobo Posted on: 03/03/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Well, this certainly hasn't match my experience  Michael Kelly | 05/09/07
I can't explain your results  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/09/07
Doesn't match my experience either  IMS_Scott | 05/09/07
Ed perhaps because you did a clean install .  Intellihence | 05/10/07
I did exactly that  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/10/07
Question ?  Intellihence | 05/10/07
Apparently not,  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/10/07
If you're going to be needing all that  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
Exactly  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
Why don't you  Mectron | 05/10/07
You sound extremely jealous son .  Intellihence | 05/10/07
Yeah he's a kid justifying to the world...  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
Hackers hijack Windows Update's downloader  I'm Ye, the MS SHILL . | 05/11/07
Running all those applications on OSX ....  ShadeTree | 05/10/07
OS X runs fine on 512MB  ye | 05/10/07
The point I'm making is that it can be run with Apple smoothly .  Intellihence | 05/10/07
That is just so much hog wash.  ShadeTree | 05/11/07
His Point Is  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
OS X works just fine with 512MB  ye | 05/11/07
Speed of system on 512MB  Mr_Dave | 05/11/07
u r wrong again  tomal_rocks | 05/11/07
This topic is a stretch at best  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
Nonsense  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/12/07
No you're wrong  notsofast | 05/13/07
You've got to be joking!  notsofast | 05/13/07
u r wrong  tomal_rocks | 05/11/07
Vista on 512  owner@... | 05/11/07
Your post is about Vista Ultimate not Basic  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
Post Made Sense To Me..  escapepod | 05/14/07
typo  escapepod | 05/14/07
On my 512MB Celeron system ...  mwagner@... | 05/17/07
Upgrade or clean?  Salonikios | 05/10/07
Purchased preinstalled  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
My out of the box System TOOO Slow  grichardt@... | 05/11/07
Probably all of the add on junk software  Furiousrog | 05/11/07
That was after I cleaned the system of junk  grichardt@... | 05/15/07
I am running 1 Gb shared just fine  DevGuy_z | 05/10/07
Your experience(s) with Vista  M.R. Kennedy | 05/10/07
There was some  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
re: There was some  M.R. Kennedy | 05/10/07
It's the *hard drive*  toadlife | 05/10/07
It's the *heat*  Fil0403 | 05/11/07
what?  toadlife | 05/11/07
Harddrive  dgjacquin | 05/11/07
Well, there's certianly something no one can deny  Fil0403 | 05/11/07
Sounds Like A Crappy System To Me  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
sth is wrong with ur computer  tomal_rocks | 05/11/07
No surprise here.  ye | 05/09/07
No too much different than the NBMers  Linux User 147560 | 05/09/07
There are no NMBers  TonyMcS | 05/09/07
You remind me of a comedian...  bportlock | 05/10/07
Your point being ?  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
Pretty much proves him right don't you...nt  USTechHead | 02/20/09
How much software does MS create for non-MS platforms anyway?  Zogg | 05/10/07
Wow, you really are delusional  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/10/07
AMEN!  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
RE: There are no NMBers  joe6pack_z | 05/11/07
AMEN - Well Said - and DEAD ON! - nt  USTechHead | 02/20/09
NBMers = Anyone who tries to correct the FUD spread...  ye | 05/10/07
It's not FUD if it's true  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
SOME are having severe issues  DevGuy_z | 05/10/07
Dude your going to Hell...Spot Boy just pee'd in his pants  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
The problem is, as the article points out, it's not true.  ye | 05/10/07
Ye, 1 out of how many, do you have statistics to prove your statement  Intellihence | 05/10/07
It depends on how you define the operating system  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
Poor drivers that leak memory is not a problem with Vista.  ye | 05/10/07
Over Time they will straighten it out.....  LazLong | 05/10/07
drinking the FUD koolaide  ruped24 | 05/10/07
Wow, one person got it to work  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/10/07
One is all it takes to disprove the FUD.  ye | 05/10/07
And conversely one is needed to spread it!  Linux User 147560 | 05/10/07
That doesn't mean they're not spreading FUD.  ye | 05/11/07
Hey, Look everyone!!!!  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/11/07
It Is FUD  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
FUD  ElCuervo | 05/11/07
Amen, Brother  xuniL_z | 05/10/07
Brother does it...  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
There isn't anything to correct...  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
Funny Thing...  fr0thy2. | 05/11/07
Media Center doesn't like 512MB though  MaxPerino | 05/09/07
Why not just use VNC?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/10/07
True Statement  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
Media Center is not available in Vista Basic  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
Who wants Vista Home Basic w/512Mb?  M.R. Kennedy | 05/12/07
Disingenuous  frgough | 05/10/07
Who's being disingenuous now?  M.R. Kennedy | 05/10/07
Then why didn't he run Premium instead?  frgough | 05/11/07
Home Basic vs. Home Premium  M.R. Kennedy | 05/11/07
Home Premium = Home Basic + additional applications.  qmlscycrajg | 05/11/07
Then why the test with Home Basic?  frgough | 05/11/07
re: Then why the test with Home Basic?  M.R. Kennedy | 05/11/07
Another useless post with nothing to offer  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
I *have* contributed  M.R. Kennedy | 05/12/07
Difficult To Believe You Congratuate an OS For Running in 512MB  BanjoPaterson | 05/10/07
No, its about combatting FUD  NonZealot | 05/10/07
I think both sides are right  TripleII | 05/10/07
You just said it: nothing to do with Vista per se  ye | 05/10/07
May not be, I don't know, and neither do you.  TripleII | 05/10/07
Both cannot be right.  ye | 05/10/07
The problem is  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
Actually, they can.  Zogg | 05/10/07
Proof?  TripleII | 05/10/07
The proof is this article.  ye | 05/10/07
I think the main thing  Freebird54 | 05/11/07
ABMers don't care what the real reason is.  ye | 05/11/07
Because Vista is intended to run a multitude of hardware  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
Is 512MB different in Dell than it is in HP or Gateway?  ye | 05/10/07
Good One  TripleII | 05/10/07
How can an ABMer  Michael Kelly | 05/10/07
What does drivers (or lack thereof) have to do with...  ye | 05/10/07
I said "crying" not "having problems with"  ye | 05/10/07
Beg to differ on that point...  Linux User 147560 | 05/10/07
Drop the driver (or lack of) argument already.  ye | 05/10/07
If you want to drop the drive issue  Linux User 147560 | 05/10/07
You're getting wound up again.  M.R. Kennedy | 05/10/07
If I'm wrong I admit to it. The reality is I'm rarely wrong.  ye | 05/11/07
Not Another Linux Evangelist  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
What MS should have done..  Freebird54 | 05/11/07
FUD...Spin, Marketing, Propaganda  LazLong | 05/10/07
Yes.  ye | 05/10/07
Actually the ONLY thing this remotely proves  Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 05/10/07
Guess what  Freebird54 | 05/11/07
"Vista needs 512MB" is hardly much of a counterpunch!  Resuna | 05/14/07
pigback  llval@... | 05/11/07
Yeah, it seems to work OK on 1 GB  CobraA1 | 05/10/07
Vista is fine  jedi105@... | 05/10/07
to clarify  jedi105@... | 05/10/07
Downloads  M.R. Kennedy | 05/10/07
sounds like a limitation  jedi105@... | 05/11/07
re: sounds like a limitation  M.R. Kennedy | 05/11/07
If I may ask... Question(s).  LazLong | 05/10/07
Vista Business Installed  bobiroc | 05/10/07
Anyone Had Issues With E-Machines  itanalyst | 05/10/07
Which Intel Chipset?  Heatlesssun1 | 05/10/07
Vista Home on 512 sounds speedy to me...  ibabadur1 | 05/10/07
HP Tablet TC1100  Jhaks | 05/10/07
Doesn't match my experience.  kraterz | 05/10/07
Something wrong with your computers  Fil0403 | 05/11/07
Exactly  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
No suprise to me  Fil0403 | 05/11/07
These folks are NBMers, they went back to XP  ruped24 | 05/11/07
I'm running Home Premium with 768MB and Vista is very fast, faster than XP  qmlscycrajg | 05/11/07
Topic doesn't match your post  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
No DVD playback by default?  phburks | 05/11/07
I'm Surprised  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
An incentive to upgrade?  phburks | 05/11/07
vista home basic  sk8in_zombi@... | 05/11/07
Are you kidding?  abatra | 05/11/07
Beta 2  hilzac00 | 05/11/07
My brother's New Dell wasn't like that...  dmacnevin | 05/11/07
Dell Dimension not Worthy  pfries@... | 05/11/07
My experience exactly.  grichardt@... | 05/15/07
Top this!  DavidRS1992 | 05/11/07
We are supposed to be impressed?  Nytehawq | 05/11/07
Ubuntu 7.04  PMDubuc | 05/11/07
Why The Heck  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
Ah - the obligatory Linux zealot chimes in.  done@... | 05/11/07
Real work requires MS products - NOT  GeorgesV | 05/11/07
Ubuntu isn't that fast  ryan9939@... | 05/11/07
Comparison  arkware | 05/11/07
Ahh - a breath  Freebird54 | 05/11/07
Why use Ubuntu...  A_Pickle | 05/11/07
ubuntu because...  GeorgesV | 05/13/07
Please, give it up, Ubuntu??  alallen1956@... | 05/11/07
Just a note...  fore_thought@... | 05/11/07
Ok, Vista works  jolumoar | 05/11/07
it's true  lukaszgda@... | 05/11/07
Vista  drjekyll | 05/11/07
Visat Business  noles2u | 05/11/07
I Wouldn't Recommend 512 to Anyone  bmore_bro69@... | 05/11/07
Yep. I started my testing of Vista ...  mwagner@... | 05/11/07
"Booting was the only painful part of the process."  Michael Kelly | 05/11/07
Good eye ...  mwagner@... | 05/17/07
Vista with 512m  dgjacquin | 05/11/07
But, unlike with XP, the RAM footprint ...  mwagner@... | 05/17/07
What's the Commit Charge ...?  pointzerotwo | 05/11/07
Only Microsoft...  Resuna | 05/11/07
Seems to be a discrepency ...  davidr69 | 05/11/07
Checking mail is a background task  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/11/07
Don't be too hard on him  Michael Kelly | 05/11/07
Windows Memory Manangement Rocks!  Narg | 05/11/07
What Video Card did you use?  dqdewalt | 05/11/07
re: What Video Card did you use?  M.R. Kennedy | 05/11/07
You are changing the scope  dqdewalt | 05/12/07
Scope  M.R. Kennedy | 05/12/07
I wonder why the attack tone...  dqdewalt | 05/14/07
"Attack tone" not intended  M.R. Kennedy | 05/15/07
straw man arguments  dqdewalt | 05/15/07
Aero and Beryl  wodan | 05/11/07
Vista Enterprise on GX110  Go_Figure | 05/11/07
Slows to a crawl with 512MB.  jimhilt@... | 05/11/07
Vista on 512MB reeks!  info@... | 05/11/07
What you pay for is what you get with apple?  eaze | 05/11/07
My favorite DVD, Blade Runner, played flawlessly at full resolution, in sur  bmcampbell@... | 05/11/07
have you tried it with a large base of documents and email?  hansonjb | 05/11/07
Troubleshooting 101  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/13/07
Vista Runing on 512 Mb  bobh1933@... | 05/11/07
Vista 512mb  muffquentin | 05/11/07
Double-Check Your System Restore!  chas_2 | 05/11/07
Asthetics and Performance  tripn | 05/11/07
Yeah right  lwbarrett@... | 05/11/07
Vista Is a Dog.....  palm50@... | 05/11/07
Yes it works.  daddykevin13 | 05/11/07
I've Got Home Premium on 640 MB RAM And It's Fine  chas_2 | 05/11/07
About your claims  DOTCOM07 | 05/11/07
I answered this already  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/11/07
And the HDD was probably trashing itself to death accessing its VM  zczc2311@... | 05/11/07
Vista and 512MB  rjfisher1@... | 05/11/07
Vista  josb866161@... | 05/11/07
I'll trad you for my new vista machine!  robert.johnson | 05/11/07
oh, and yes, i'll take that memory too!  robert.johnson | 05/11/07
yeah dats y Apple has more market share than PC  tomal_rocks | 05/11/07
But what do you USE it for?  blarman_z | 05/11/07
Did you read the article?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/12/07
thank's god the human genetic code did'nt go commercial  xmeshman | 05/11/07
Runs quick but...  robspcfixerupper@... | 05/12/07
Yup  Skullet | 05/14/07
Who really wants Vista Basic and why ?  intrepi@... | 05/12/07
Beleive It!!!  elliottxp | 05/14/07
Copied  JamesGeek | 05/15/07
Vista fast?  mombosley@... | 05/18/07
another way of saying it:  boguscomputer | 05/29/07
Read it again  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/30/07
Basic is great  007baf | 05/31/07
So it works??????  aljatrad@... | 05/31/07
Home Premium on 2 year old laptop works fine!  joep1701 | 06/10/07
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  MSfan | 02/29/08
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  Iluha_ua | 10/27/08
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  chips@... | 02/19/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  a_kelkar@... | 02/20/09
I like Vista Home Basic; have had no problems with it  chas_2 | 02/20/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  deowll | 02/20/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  stubie | 02/22/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  jrbales@... | 02/22/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  jrbales@... | 02/22/09
RE: Vista Home Basic on 512MB? Hey, it works!  cclobo | 03/03/09

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