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August 13th, 2007

The Vista RAM puzzle: Is 2GB enough?

Posted by Ed Bott @ 11:16 am

Categories: Hardware, Windows Vista

Tags: Microsoft Windows Vista, Microsoft Windows, RAM, Ed Bott

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A couple weeks ago, my buddy Dwight Silverman asked whether he should be tempted by low, low prices to bump the RAM in his Windows Vista machine from 2GB to 4GB. He asks:

My problem is this: I want the RAM, but do I really need it? I seldom, if ever, use all the memory now in my PC — the RAM gauge I use as part of Yahoo Widgets seldom goes above 65 or 75 percent. I have no performance complaints. (I also use a 2-GB USB flash drive for Vista’s ReadyBoost, which helps.) Would spending $80 to kick my RAM up a single gigabyte to 3 GB be worth it? Would I be better off spending $160 and going to 4 GB?

It’s hard to use 2GB of RAM, even in VistaI’ve got a lot of experience with different PC configurations, and I can say with confidence that 2GB is more than enough for even the most demanding business user. There are two important exception to that rule: If you use one or more virtual machines in the same session, you’ll benefit from as much RAM as you can install, and 2GB probably won’t be enough. You’ll also need (and want) the extra RAM if you run 64–bit Windows Vista, a topic I’ll get to shortly. First, let’s talk about that 2GB configuration.

I’ve used Vista on more than a dozen machines from at least six manufacturers. Currently, my working machines are an Asus Tablet PC and a Dell XPS 410 desktop, both with 2GB of memory. In more than a month of sometimes insanely heavy use with each one, I have never reached a state where either one performed unacceptably because it was gasping for RAM. It’s really, really difficult to use 2GB of RAM with any edition of Windows Vista. At the moment, as you can see from the Task Manager snippet on the right, I’m running 81 processes on this desktop PC, including the following:

  • Two instances of Internet Explorer 7 with a total of 40 tabs open (note that this load would have brought the system to its knees if I hadn’t also increased the size of the desktop heap)
  • Firefox 2.0.0.6 with five Ajax-heavy tabs in use
  • Adobe Acrobat Standard
  • Outlook 2007, with a 610MB OST file synching with an Exchange Server about 2000 miles away
  • Two remote sessions, one to Windows Home Server (via its own console), the other to Windows Server 2008 (via Remote Desktop).
  • OneNote, with 90MB of notebook files open
  • Four Windows Sidebar gadgets
  • Windows Media Player, connected to a library of 20,000 songs and pictures stored on a Vista-based media server in the living room
  • 11 Windows Explorer windows representing local folders, network shares, searches, and bits of the Windows Control Panel like the Installed Programs list, Network and Sharing Center, and Sync Center
  • A bunch of useful programs running in the background, including RoboForm, ClipMate, SnagIt, the Windows Home Server Connector, and Windows Live Messenger
  • Oh, and I’m composing this in Windows Live Writer

That’s a lot of stuff, but I’m not even close to using up the 2GB of RAM installed on this machine. According to Task Manager, 1.44GB are in use by all processes from all users, including caches and indexing tasks and other system functions. From experience, I know I could open another half-dozen programs and rip a music CD and still not notice any change in performance.

If you use a similar mix of apps, you should see similar results. For that type of heavy multitasking, the bump from 1GB to 2GB has a clear impact and costs very little. But adding an extra 2GB beyond that doesn’t usually result in any noticeable improvement in performance or reliability.

As I noted earlier, there are two big exceptions to this general advice. The first is virtualization. If you run Linux or Windows (any version) in one or more virtual machines on the same PC, you’ll hit that 2GB ceiling sooner rather than later. In that case, you need extra RAM. You also need to join the second group and go to 64-bit Windows Vista, which can actually use all that RAM (with 32-bit Windows versions, you can only use roughly 3GB of RAM, regardless of how much is physically installed).

For the past few months, I’ve been switching between 32-bit and 64-bit Windows Vista machines. Thanks to the wonderful new VMWare Workstation 6, I think I’m about to go all 64-bit on the desktop. I’ll have more on why VMWare and 64-bit Vista are such a great match (and why licensing issues are still such an unnecessary hassle) in my next post.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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1GB is enough  toadlife | 08/13/07
Maybe that's why it's sluggish wink (nt)  CobraA1 | 08/13/07
Why would you or anyone want to run sluggishly?  Laff | 08/14/07
$$$$  voska | 08/14/07
Perhaps but then again a pen and paper is cheap still  Laff | 08/14/07
Yup and it seems Staples sell a lot of pens  voska | 08/14/07
still to keep with the office supplies theme....  Laff | 08/14/07
that's a small business only viewpiont.  rtk | 08/14/07
Only sluggish at bootup  toadlife | 08/14/07
It depends on...  Wolfie2K3 | 08/14/07
True  madshock | 08/21/07
ReadyBoost  Scott K. | 08/13/07
Two Words: After Effects...  voyager529 | 08/13/07
Clarification...  voyager529 | 08/13/07
I'll bet Vista with 2GB would be fine  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/13/07
I stuck with 2GB  dwight.silverman@... | 08/13/07
RE: Games  rward30 | 08/14/07
Interesting, but...  slopoke | 08/13/07
It's not being a pig  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/13/07
Yup  slopoke | 08/13/07
Ed's right ...  mwagner@... | 08/14/07
I don't understand. It's not resource hungry but it needs 1Gb to run,  stevey_d | 08/15/07
No  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/15/07
enough RAM is like enough cash...  srobtjones@... | 08/13/07
ReadyBoost doesn't help  CobraA1 | 08/13/07
ReadyBoost doesn't help  aussieblnd@... | 08/14/07
ReadyBoost offers maximum benefit on ...  mwagner@... | 08/14/07
Well, I am running a 1 GB system . . .  CobraA1 | 08/14/07
Rediboost does not work that way  Baer | 08/14/07
2 GB is enough - for now.  CobraA1 | 08/13/07
I've 768MB RAM and Vista is very fast!  qmlscycrajg | 08/14/07
but why does it need so much RAM  stevey_d | 08/14/07
Simple reasong for that  voska | 08/14/07
I think there's a disconnect here  gsteele531@... | 08/14/07
Bingo  eye4bear | 08/14/07
Vista runs fine on 1GB  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
but ubuntu needs 512meg with lots of programs and beryl  stevey_d | 08/15/07
Vista runs fantastic, Aero and all on 1 gig.  Cayble | 08/14/07
My laptop has 1GB RAM & Vista Ultimate...  lisacate@... | 08/17/07
Why "CHEAP" out on memory?  Laff | 08/14/07
When you need it, buy it  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
32bit vista won't see 4gb  tommcd64 | 08/14/07
Why?  voska | 08/14/07
There's a longstanding limitation with 32-bit Windows  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
I did mention that  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
is there a similar limitation in OSX or Ubuntu?  stevey_d | 08/15/07
max ram vista 32bit  chrome_slinky@... | 08/14/07
Why not get 4 GB  voska | 08/14/07
If you have unlimited funds...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
If you have unlimited funds...  aussieblnd@... | 08/14/07
The longer you wait, the better  davids@... | 08/14/07
Key to good cheap longterm hardware  Cayble | 08/14/07
Another Reason for More RAM  knoxbury | 08/14/07
What about for video editing?  sahild | 08/14/07
Photoshop and Video Editing  noverge | 08/14/07
Why doesn't Vista use the extra RAM for disk cache?  Resuna | 08/14/07
It does, actually.  CobraA1 | 08/14/07
Then why isn't it using all the RAM?  Resuna | 08/14/07
re:using all the RAM  rattatatt@... | 08/14/07
Get Real  tim.haugan@... | 08/14/07
64-bit and memory  raharrin@... | 08/14/07
64-bit needs more memory because...  Narg | 08/14/07
paged and cached  beranek@... | 08/14/07
Solid information  griz326 | 08/14/07
technical people need far more RAM depending on software  dabruro | 08/14/07
Who's buying 32-bit processors?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/14/07
low end models (Dell &others) still being sold with 32bit proc  dabruro | 08/14/07
Celeron D and Pentium D processors ...  mwagner@... | 08/14/07
ZDNET NESLETTERS  pccow000 | 08/14/07
1 GB is poor, 2 GB is sufficiently  marcelobonatto@... | 08/14/07
This is nothing new ...  mwagner@... | 08/14/07
Actually...  firehound | 08/14/07
512 MB max?  notsofast | 08/14/07
Puzzled  mgrubb@... | 08/15/07
Vista Requirment  morrig | 08/18/07
The Vista aint no puzzle  Ole Man | 08/14/07
Who pee'd in your Wheaties...  fr0thy2. | 08/14/07
DUDE!!!!!  Laff | 08/14/07
That was YOUR Wheaties, Dood  Ole Man | 08/14/07
Seek help  rtk | 08/14/07
Got all the help I need  Ole Man | 08/25/07
Vista sucks up RAM  3dtodd | 08/14/07
If you want memory unused...  davids@... | 08/14/07
Can't wait for your next Blog  brittonv | 08/14/07
Good article, Ed!  mwagner@... | 08/14/07
4GB is too much memory  mbsolomon@... | 08/14/07
64-bit Vista memory  ejsecco | 08/14/07
Games?!  jetman36 | 08/14/07
Vista won't install with more than 3 GB  murraygordon@... | 08/14/07
Re: Vista won't install with more than 3 GB  ejsecco | 08/14/07
We dont all want that  madshock | 08/21/07
RAM is a good thing...  sierradragon | 08/14/07
Vista Memory  Ronchogrande | 08/15/07
Thanks for sharing  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/15/07
Message has been deleted.  Kromaethius | 08/17/07
Be nice if you can not be say nought.  morrig | 08/18/07
Warning on 4 Gig RAM Boost  Kromaethius | 08/16/07
Whoops -- Should be...  Kromaethius | 08/16/07
I agree for the most part  CobraA1 | 08/16/07
A matter of Opinion  Kromaethius | 08/17/07
Vista firewall filters both  LinuxandMacforlife | 08/18/07
MS firewalls  morrig | 08/18/07
New Anti-Virus and Security Suite 4 Vista  Kromaethius | 08/19/07
?  Ronchogrande | 12/05/07
I GOT 1.5 GIGS OF RAM  crenner@... | 08/17/07
Is 2 gig enough ram for Vista  rgeiken@... | 08/21/07
Vista Processor Usage  emmaylots@... | 08/26/07
512MB RAM?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/09/07
RE: The Vista RAM puzzle: Is 2GB enough?  fourpastmidnight@... | 02/25/08
RE: The Vista RAM puzzle: Is 2GB enough?  jonortrev | 01/26/09
RE: The Vista RAM puzzle: Is 2GB enough?  s5e5com | 07/06/09
RE: The Vista RAM puzzle: Is 2GB enough?  s5e5com | 07/06/09

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