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August 31st, 2007

Blu-ray, HD DVD, and Vista

Posted by Ed Bott @ 6:12 am

Categories: Digital media, Windows Vista

Tags: Software, Video Card, HD-DVD, Media, LG Electronics Inc., Microsoft Windows Vista, Video, CPU, Blu-ray, CyberLink

As part of my ongoing Vista Media Center project, I’m about to add Blu-ray and HD DVD playback capabilities to my living room system. I already know that the system is fully capable of recording and playing back over-the-air high-definition content. Now I’m about to find out if it can handle the more demanding high-definition optical formats.

Unlike most upgrades, though, this one isn’t a simple matter of plugging in a new drive. No fewer than six separate hardware and software pieces must be in alignment before high-def media playback is possible:

  • A compatible drive. The good folks at LG USA have sent me a pair of their new second-generation Super Blue Multi Drives drives, which handle both Blu-ray and HD DVD formats. The GGC-H20L ($399) reads both formats and has standard CD/DVD writing capabilities; the GGW-H20L ($499) can write to Blu-ray media as well. Both drives should be available for retail sale beginning in September.
  • Playback software. Windows doesn’t include its own native software for playing back either Blu-ray or HD DVD media. For that, you’ll need a third-party program. The LG drives arrived with an OEM version of CyberLink’s Power DVD Ultra, which works on Vista and on Windows XP SP2.
  • Sufficiently powerful discrete display adapter. You’ll want an Nvidia, 7600-series GPU or better (with an 8500 series or better recommended); for ATI, a Radeon X1600 series is required, with an HD2400 or better recommended). In either case, you’ll want a minimum of 256MB of onboard video RAM and up-to-date drivers. (According to CyberLink, Intel’s latest 945/965 integrated graphics will work as well, but I’d need to see that to believe it.)
  • An HDCP-ready video subsystem. To get full high-definition output, your video card and display must both have digital connections (DVI or HDMI) and both must support High-Bandwidth Digital Content Protection (HDCP). If any portion of the system is lacking, you can still get analog playback, roughly equivalent to a standard DVD.
  • A CPU that can handle the load. Decoding and delivering a full AACS-encrypted 1080i/1080p HD signal takes a fair amount of CPU power. Any dual-core CPU running at 2.0 GHz or better should be sufficient.
  • And, of course, high-def media. I used my Netflix account and had three HD titles delivered to me last week, one in HD DVD format, two in Blu-ray format.

CyberLink includes a handy Advisor program that allows you to profile the current system and see how well it measures up to the challenge of HD media. When I ran it on my living room Media Center system, here’s what I got back:

Blu-ray and HD advisor report for Windows Vista Media Center

I expected the red bullets next to the drive and player entries; those will turn green as soon as I install the drive and the accompanying software. The CPU is above the minimum standard and should be able to deliver a consistently good experience. The graphics card is a bigger problem. The Radeon 1300 Pro is just below the minimum standard; it would probably deliver a few glitches under extreme loads. More importantly, it is not HDCP-ready, which means it would provide only analog output. And the selection of HDCP-ready video cards in a low-profile format is limited; MSI is sending me a review unit of their Nvidia 8500GT-based card with the necessary low-profile bracket for testing. (It’s available for $77 at Newegg.)

I won’t be watching any Blu-ray or HD DVD movies in the living room until the fresh video adapter arrives, but meanwhile I’ve been able to confirm that all the other pieces work well. A test machine in my office includes all the necessary pieces, including a 1080p display. I was able to connect the LG drive using a SATA-to-USB adapter and no trouble playing back movies in both formats.

Performance on this system was impressive, with smooth, glitch-free playback and an impressive level of detail, better than any cable or satellite HD program I’ve seen. I checked the CPU load on the 2.0GHz AMD processor (similar to the one in my living room system) and it was consistently in the 60%+ range. One advantage of the Nvidia 8-series boards is that they handle much of the decoding directly, sparing the CPU, so I’m hoping that the video upgrade will mean lower CPU loads.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: Blu-ray, HD DVD, and Vista
Companies doesn't generally devise products solely to
make consumers happy, they also have to make a profit.
A class action lawsuit would almost certainly be found
in the favor of whatever... (Read the rest)
Posted by: farnhamj Posted on: 08/12/09 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
What's the point of this  voska | 08/31/07
The point of this...  thirdlife@... | 08/31/07
Yes, that's correct  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
Class Action?  thirdlife@... | 08/31/07
I know I'd hit pirating services  voska | 08/31/07
Sounds like an appropriate response  TrackStar1682 | 09/06/07
Exactly  voska | 08/31/07
It's in the HD DVD media  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
If the security is in the media  zkiwi | 08/31/07
So what's your point?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
Suggesting?  Mectron | 08/31/07
In case it had escaped your notice...  zkiwi | 09/02/07
Answers  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/03/07
Do you lock your doors?  otaddy | 09/04/07
Cat and Mouse Game  Information_z | 09/04/07
Bad analogy.  Dr. John | 09/04/07
Well  Michael Kelly | 08/31/07
Most people were happy with black and white TV too  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
Color was worth it  voska | 08/31/07
Huge difference to me  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
Some reasoning behind audiophiles.  Bozzer | 08/31/07
I'm curious as to what HD..  msalzberg | 09/03/07
Try "PlBreanet Earth"  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/03/07
That should be "Planet Earth"  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/03/07
It's in the eyes  SteveZodiac | 09/04/07
I see the difference, but...  e2001@... | 09/04/07
DVD Recoding only Recent  TheBoyBailey | 08/31/07
So true  JonWayn | 09/05/07
Still doesn't make sense though  voska | 08/31/07
to add to that  voska | 08/31/07
re: casual copying  CobraA1 | 09/01/07
Copy protection always has been and always will be  frgough | 09/01/07
How so?  otaddy | 09/04/07
Are You Kidding Me!!!  bjterry62 | 09/04/07
He doesn't have kids.  Bozzer | 09/04/07
HDCD is just a scam from hollywood  Mectron | 08/31/07
It is HDCP not HDCD.(nt)  ShadeTree | 09/01/07
They still havent sold me on this.  Been_Done_Before | 08/31/07
I agree  hammeroftruth | 08/31/07
Did you also notice that it's all in slow motion?  roaming | 09/03/07
Drivers for X64?  pesweet | 08/31/07
I don't understand  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 08/31/07
re: I don't understand  pesweet | 08/31/07
The biggest problem with x64  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/07
Ed - Any PSU concerns?  cnfrisch | 08/31/07
Not too worried  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/01/07
Gotta love that DRM, eh?  CobraA1 | 09/01/07
Wrong  frgough | 09/01/07
No. You are wrong.  Grayson Peddie | 09/01/07
Right.  frgough | 09/01/07
Next you'll be telling us...  zkiwi | 09/01/07
It's pretty ineffective  CobraA1 | 09/02/07
No.. It's CRAP.  Wolfie2K3 | 09/04/07
Hope they hack it soon or I won't buy  wellsoul2@... | 09/07/07
Oh, ED! Can you test something for us???  CobraA1 | 09/01/07
Staying on the HD fence.  Solid Jedi Knight | 09/02/07
Yawn  Jeremy W | 09/03/07
Fascinating  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/03/07
I Am Sticking With Dvd and Win XP  chessmen | 09/03/07
Too compleex for now.  FSB | 09/03/07
Except if you have Vista!  FSB | 09/03/07
Just as soon as you "activate" it  Ole Man | 09/03/07
Quit feeding the trolls..  Wolfie2K3 | 09/04/07
Prediction  No_Ax_to_Grind | 09/04/07
That's a mighty thin limb dude...  Wolfie2K3 | 09/04/07
DirecTV  brittonv | 09/04/07
HDCP only at Digital no at Analog  hen770@... | 09/04/07
What is it worth to you?  Information_z | 09/04/07
BluRay vs HD-DVD  JmcG | 09/05/07
yep!  Linux Geek | 09/19/07
I want to hear how this turns out Ed.  wademontana | 09/05/07
I have Questions?....and comments,,,  LazLong | 09/05/07
Why the Display  skiplarson | 09/06/07
End-to-end protection  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/06/07
Yeah But..Real Pirates Don't care..  wellsoul2@... | 09/07/07
my opinion  boogie2277@... | 01/03/08
RE: Blu-ray, HD DVD, and Vista  farnhamj | 08/12/09

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