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October 12th, 2007

When is it OK to copy digital media?

Posted by Ed Bott @ 4:43 pm

Categories: Digital media

Tags: Digital Media, CD, Entertainment Industry, Ed Bott

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The response so far to my digital media ethics poll has been overwhelming. More than 7,500 votes have been cast so far, with nearly 500 comments posted in the Talkback sections for the introductory post and the poll itself. I plan to keep the voting open at least through the end of the weekend. So if you haven’t voted yet, do it soon.

Here’s a summary of the results so far, followed by some preliminary analysis:

  • The overwhelming majority (96%) think that buying a CD and making a copy for personal use is OK. But 40% think that some types of copies are more acceptable than others. I’m sifting through the comments to see if I can refine that conclusion. Vote or see detailed results here.
  • More than four out of five respondents so far think it’s wrong to rip a CD to your hard drive and then sell the original CD. More people approve of simple CD sharing among friends. I’m struck, though, by a significant gap in perceptions: A total of 32% of respondents think it’s always or sometimes OK to buy a CD and make a copy to give to a friend. But 41% think it’s OK to borrow a friend’s CD and rip it to your hard drive. I’m not sure I see the distinction. Do you? Vote or see detailed results here. Then add your comment in the Talkback section.
  • A large majority (82%) believe that stripping copy protection (DRM) from purchased music files is perfectly OK. On the other hand, three out of four readers think it’s wrong to copy a rented DVD. Vote or see detailed results here.
  • And finally, 75% of you think it’s just fine to download a torrent of a recorded TV show from a broadcast network, but a significant percentage (34-42%) think the rules should be different for premium services like HBO or for programs that are available through authorized channels. Vote or see detailed results here.

The entertainment industry wants you to believe that making a copy of a music CD or a DVD for a friend is digital shoplifting (or, in their cringe-worthy neologism, “songlifting”). Based on the preliminary results of this poll, with more than 40% of respondents giving a thumbs-up to some forms of casual copying among friends, the RIAA is clearly losing that battle of ideas. And the technically savvy ZDNet readership might be more sympathetic to the RIAA’s position than the rest of the market; a 2006 Los Angeles Times/Bloomberg News survey found that 69% of the teenagers they polled think it’s not just right but it’s legal to copy a CD from a friend.

I’ll have some more thoughts on why the entertainment industry has done such a crappy job of coping with the analog-to-digital conversion next week, with a much more detailed look at this poll’s final results and your comments.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?
In the end the rights and wrongs of copying are irrelevent because technology will always ensure it is impossible to prevent it. The music indistry, in line with a lot of others, has to come to terms ... (Read the rest)
Posted by: Reged Posted on: 10/23/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  DannyO_0x98 | 10/12/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  HBEaker | 10/15/07
Easy answer for the discrepency  slopoke | 10/13/07
Not so easy answer  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/15/07
how is this  mdemuth | 10/15/07
Re-read the original post in this thread.  Timpraetor | 10/15/07
I think more like this  sullivanjc | 10/15/07
Here's how I'd explain it  notsofast | 10/15/07
It really is simple  TripleII | 10/13/07
I disagree.  sbotsford@... | 10/15/07
It isn't wrong  TripleII | 10/15/07
This Is a Very Interesting Idea  Fevrin | 10/17/07
Two statements resolve all the issues.  Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
Second added observation.  Anton Philidor | 10/13/07
Even if true, it doesn't pass the test.  TripleII | 10/14/07
Doing the right thing. Or not.  Anton Philidor | 10/14/07
You're confusing terms  K-Mech | 10/15/07
And "not guilty" does not mean "innocent"  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
Technically Not Guilty does  voska | 10/15/07
"Not guilty" can mean "Not proven"  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
Same thing though  voska | 10/15/07
You're adding to the confusion by speculating  Mike Hunt | 10/15/07
I agree  TripleII | 10/15/07
Right from wrong  voska | 10/15/07
Rose colored glasses  Ronin69 | 10/15/07
Rose colored glasses  Ronin69 | 10/15/07
Rose Colored Glasses  Ronin69 | 10/15/07
Telephoto lenses  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
Clarification  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
Really  Ronin69 | 10/15/07
Congress made the fees available...  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
Out of Print & Media Fees  TucsonGuy | 10/15/07
On your second point  voska | 10/15/07
Well...  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
I believe I addressed that  voska | 10/15/07
The most important fact, which you only touched on...  BitTwiddler | 10/15/07
"Purchased media"  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/15/07
My vote was done when y ou posted the story happy  BitTwiddler | 10/15/07
Excellent point  TucsonGuy | 10/15/07
Your response  anthony.p.marsh@... | 10/16/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  joanatterbury@... | 10/15/07
Still a rationalization  TripleII | 10/15/07
One more rationalization.  sbotsford@... | 10/15/07
The exreme exception proves the rule  TripleII | 10/15/07
Did you determine the successor company...  Anton Philidor | 10/15/07
a situation covered by law  Ole Man | 10/16/07
But in the US the law controls farmers.  Anton Philidor | 10/16/07
Not in my part of the country  Ole Man | 10/16/07
Take that analogy further -  Timpraetor | 10/15/07
Aside  TripleII | 10/15/07
The level of "spam" in the form of saturation plays  Ole Man | 10/16/07
Discrepancy  davids@... | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  janus.f.wilczek@... | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  geedavey@... | 10/15/07
Amen  Timpraetor | 10/15/07
A few points  voska | 10/15/07
RE: A few points  geedavey@... | 10/15/07
The concept of a library  mdemuth | 10/15/07
The concept of memorising...  smdunn | 10/15/07
ridiculous extremes  mdemuth | 10/15/07
Technically you don't pay anything  voska | 10/15/07
Copyright law disagrees with that  voska | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  Shadowbelly | 10/15/07
Funny, true  Timpraetor | 10/15/07
Public Performance  Shadowbelly | 10/15/07
true but...  voska | 10/15/07
Intent is what the perceiver perceives...  Timpraetor | 10/15/07
Actually...  cheesyone | 10/18/07
When you have a Legal Physical Copy, Digital is okay  brittonv | 10/15/07
DRM ripping results; really a surprise?  D. W. Bierbaum | 10/15/07
Re: DRM ripping results; really a surprise?  none none | 10/15/07
I already explained why I answered differently.  Resuna | 10/15/07
This one isn't a discrepancy... I don't think...  Resuna | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  ja4509 | 10/15/07
Pot calling the kettle  Crafty Badger | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  UnixGods | 10/15/07
Thank you!  cheesyone | 10/18/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media? When the law says you can.  sysop-dr | 10/15/07
Canadian law should be repealed  HooNoze | 10/15/07
Could happen but not quickly  voska | 10/15/07
Ripping (off) media companies  jiagebusen | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  bsjr104@... | 10/15/07
My personal views on media copying  mxyzplk | 10/15/07
What if You and Your Friend buy the CD together?  Nostredamus | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  morwen | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  fotografx@... | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  Hans Schmidt | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  djaydeats@... | 10/15/07
Except redistribute it.  TripleII | 10/15/07
right-wrong vs harmless-harmful  bmeacham98@... | 10/15/07
Rationalization  TripleII | 10/15/07
I do  voska | 10/15/07
So you make a wrong into a right.  TripleII | 10/15/07
Moral Compass  voska | 10/16/07
I agree completely  TripleII | 10/16/07
OK to copy, legally...  trust2112@... | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  crawdad2k | 10/15/07
my views  voska | 10/15/07
I think the difference may be...  arf0528@... | 10/15/07
One possible answer  s_souche | 10/16/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  cfrobw | 10/15/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  kwhiz01@... | 10/16/07
Before lawyers proliferated, polluted, and contaminated  Ole Man | 10/16/07
Sometimes and Depnds ....its more a matter of who and what.  Been_Done_Before | 10/16/07
Why are you having problems with distinctions?  big red one | 10/16/07
Why are you having problems with distinctions?  pgf_666@... | 10/16/07
My Thoughts . . .  Fevrin | 10/17/07
No difference  janitorman | 10/17/07
Exceptions in the RIAA Scrutiny for DJ's  Doc Disco | 10/22/07
RE: When is it OK to copy digital media?  Reged | 10/23/07

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