So, let me get this straight...
jparrott@... | 10/31/07
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Vista security
jimmccormick | 10/31/07
|
 
Well...
ego.sum.stig@... | 10/31/07
|
  
lol, I knew
Badgered | 10/31/07
|
  
The lazier MS with security updates-the more secure is OS. It's logical (NT
FX512 | 11/01/07
|
   
True, that is what Ed is suggesting
laman | 11/03/07
|
    
Bye!
andrej770 | 11/03/07
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Which would you rather have?
NonZealot | 11/03/07
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The number of patches NEVER reflects real security.
U525 | 11/03/07
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Message has been deleted.
i8thecat | 11/01/07
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When MS, against user's will, installs/deletes/copies whatever MS wants...
Hot379 | 11/02/07
|

Hmmm, if my car needs fewer repairs...
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/31/07
|
 
*ahem*
ego.sum.stig@... | 10/31/07
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silly poster, my Windows doesn't need repairs.
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/31/07
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So...
ego.sum.stig@... | 10/31/07
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Message has been deleted.
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
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Message has been deleted.
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/01/07
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stable
thomaswort@... | 11/01/07
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Yes, well...
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/02/07
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"Works fine"
Mike Cox, Sr. | 10/31/07
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Message has been deleted.
Intellihence | 11/01/07
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re: 95%
Badgered | 11/01/07
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The question stands...
bmerc | 11/01/07
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Yeah but does Windows still have 95% share? (nt)
dave95. | 11/01/07
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@bmerc: Technically, no it does not.
ye | 11/01/07
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Touche'....
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
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2nd he needs to change the name...
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
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Message has been deleted.
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
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WELL
LinuxOwns | 12/05/07
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Oh Geez...nt
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
|
 
Using this line of thinking...
jparrott@... | 10/31/07
|
  
My gas tank is fine. What is your problem?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/31/07
|
   
Is that your final answer?
JJQ1000 | 11/01/07
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Well...
Suicida| | 11/01/07
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In his case...
jasonp@... | 10/31/07
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miserable man....
simon.mcturk@... | 11/01/07
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LOL!!!!!!!!! Well they have Rosie...
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
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Just a note
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
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I'm sure those driving ford Pintos thought the same
voska | 10/31/07
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That's it!--
Mike Cox, Sr. | 10/31/07
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Yep...
jasonp@... | 10/31/07
|
 
Wrong Analogy
bhartman33@... | 11/01/07
|
 
Or look at it another way
JJQ1000 | 11/01/07
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I have to ask you
laura.b | 11/01/07
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'tis but a trifle...
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/01/07
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However
laura.b | 11/02/07
|
 
Re: Hmmm, if my car needs fewer repairs....
milton@... | 11/01/07
|
 
Or...
Relorian@... | 11/01/07
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It's a stupid metric to judge security
voska | 10/31/07
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It is a valid metric
gazzawazza | 11/02/07
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Yet when MS was releasing a lot of patches the ABMers...
ye | 11/01/07
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It doesn't work both ways
voska | 11/01/07
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Of course it doesn't. Not when it comes to ABMers.
ye | 11/01/07
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RE: It doesn't work both ways
laura.b | 11/01/07
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Touche
dventer@... | 11/01/07
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Message has been deleted.
i8thecat | 11/01/07
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Biased source is the foundation of this article
dfolk | 10/31/07
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Read the article
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
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huh?
Badgered | 10/31/07
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Reading comprehension not your forte?
NonZealot | 10/31/07
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Count Patchula
DannyO_0x98 | 10/31/07
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So you have other facts to consider?
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/31/07
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He was using the quote as a prediction, not as proof.
osreinstall | 11/01/07
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I think he was making his own conclusions
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
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less does not equal better per se
ted.law@... | 11/01/07
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Since when is anti-Gutmann the same as pro-MS
NonZealot | 11/01/07
|
OS is the best yet...
Mike Cox | 10/31/07
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How dare you...
ego.sum.stig@... | 10/31/07
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Covert Operations
DannyO_0x98 | 10/31/07
|
  
Leopard Firewall
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
 
What..
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
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And I'm sure you drive from the passenger seat.
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/01/07
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God you are such a sucker...must be new
socialism=nowhere | 11/01/07
|
  
Well, new yes...
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/01/07
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Fuggeddaboudit
Louis.Ross@... | 11/01/07
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wait, no
LinuxOwns | 12/05/07
|

That was a 5.0
georgeou | 10/31/07
|
 
I don't know...
swoopee | 11/01/07
|
  
Really... 8.0 at least...
Wolfie2K3 | 11/01/07
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Yeah he could.....
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
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8.5 ;^}
thx-1138_@... | 11/01/07
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Re: OS is the best yet...
Altiris_Grunt | 11/01/07
|

OS is the best... what?
Trent Black | 11/01/07
|
 
You've been hooked!!!!
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|
Ready for this surprise?
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
|

Not as friendly as *nix? Buahahahahaha
No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/31/07
|
 
Actually He Is Right
itanalyst | 10/31/07
|
  
Vista Adjustment
Louis.Ross@... | 11/01/07
|
 
So still waiting for you
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
|
 
Yes... of course you will deny and run with your tail
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
|
  
Stretching?
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
   
Does't change the facts
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
|
    
Nope
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
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"technology inept"
Jack-Booted EULA | 10/31/07
|
   
Does't change the facts
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
|
    
Reviews
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
     
Well that's pretty easy to answer
Linux User 147560 | 10/31/07
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A hint for you:
Mike Cox, Sr. | 10/31/07
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Since the other hit the max replies.
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
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"Chuck a Windows user in front of a Linux box and"...
jacarter3 | 11/01/07
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I have for the last couple of years
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|
  
You forget the most important review.
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
|
   
Are you having an aneurism yet?
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/02/07
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As Always.....attacking the poster
xuniL_z | 11/05/07
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How else would you renounce?
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|
   
People are sheep....
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
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Granted, I don't watch a whole lot of television...BUT
xuniL_z | 11/05/07
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explain that?
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|
 
Actually, he's right about that, Axie
Chad_z | 11/01/07
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The Kernel project has zero focus.
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
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Eight Lines
Louis.Ross@... | 11/01/07
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8 was not correct.
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
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MS is a Dragon...
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|
 
Reading comprehension is not your strong point is it?
voska | 11/01/07
|
 
I think it depends on the way you look at it.
ju1ce | 11/01/07
|

Here's the surprise...
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
|
 
Are you really
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|
  
No, it's more like you
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
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Oh, one other thing....and the linux kernel
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
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You really don't understand
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|
   
The usual response. ad hominem
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
|
   
OSS is about money
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|

Are those figures based on reality?
JJQ1000 | 11/01/07
|
 
What figures?
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|
  
Breach of Vista
TeranceH | 11/01/07
|
   
So you admit that you did this to yourself?
NonZealot | 11/01/07
|
   
Did you report this to security focus
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|

Speak for yourself
notsofast | 11/01/07
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Bitty, You're Not Going To Win This One
itanalyst | 10/31/07
|

Performance?
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
 
Performance???
jparrott@... | 10/31/07
|
  
Laptop
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
   
Huge Difference...
itanalyst | 10/31/07
|
    
Happy to hear that
JamesGeek | 10/31/07
|
    
I ran into a Dell like yours...
itpro_z | 11/01/07
|
     
your computer, or your skills, are not up to the task
Ole Man | 11/02/07
|
     
Come on, Ole Man..
itpro_z | 11/02/07
|
     
Working great here on a four-year-old PC
Ed Bott | 11/02/07
|
     
Actually Ed, I can beat that!
Ben_E | 11/02/07
|
     
Nothing to be proud of Vista System Requirements. Sorry guys.
Hot379 | 11/02/07
|
     
Sorry, itpro_z
Ole Man | 11/02/07
|
     
beat that
Ole Man | 11/02/07
|
     
@Hot379: Vista System Requirements
ye | 11/03/07
|
     
@ye: another excellent point
NonZealot | 11/03/07
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For a 10K PC - requirements are not that important as for a $500 PC.
U525 | 11/03/07
|
  
doesn't the 360...
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|

I run Vista.
TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/01/07
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... and I have demanding apps too, like Cubase
Altiris_Grunt | 11/01/07
|
  
Cubase details.
TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/01/07
|
   
Re: Cubase Details
Altiris_Grunt | 11/01/07
|
 
I concur
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|

Nobody FORCED to have vista
otaddy | 11/01/07
|
 
That's absolutely the most irrational comment I've heard yet...
ju1ce | 11/01/07
|
  
Still not forced to buy Vista
otaddy | 11/01/07
|
   
Aren't forced?
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
    
Nope not forced
otaddy | 11/02/07
|
     
Wow impressive.. One line out of context.
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
  
Can you give a more concrete
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
|
   
Again,
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
    
Oh come on.....fallacies abound
xuniL_z | 11/05/07
|
     
I worked with AT&T SVR4 Unix and SCO Unix for 10 years
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|
     
My beef with your reply..
ju1ce | 11/05/07
|
   
No he cant, he wants to pretend he is a victim.
otaddy | 11/02/07
|
    
See my response on the other one (NT)
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
    
Dear Sir.
xuniL_z | 11/05/07
|
     
You are but an open book
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|
 
I invite you to try PCLinuxOS
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|

I have used it on a few occassions...
ju1ce | 11/01/07
|
My Vista is 100% secure
Bill4 | 10/31/07
|
You're right...
jasonp@... | 10/31/07
|

go check out the bug-farm...
rtk | 10/31/07
|

Are you the same"jason p" that works for
GuidingLight | 10/31/07
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Maybe they're patching multiple vulns in each fix.
kraterz | 10/31/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
haaglander@... | 11/01/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
jfp | 11/01/07
|

They are already looking
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|
Nice conclusion
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/01/07
|

The rules have changed.
xuniL_z | 11/01/07
|
 
Are you really feeling that threatened?
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/01/07
|
  
You are totally
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
|
   
You are totally back peddaling
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/05/07
|
   
Your hypocrisy has not gone unnoticed
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|

Do you have numbers?
Ed Bott | 11/01/07
|
 
Ed's "Serious question"
jacarter3 | 11/01/07
|
  
re: Ed's "Serious question"
CobraA1 | 11/01/07
|
   
Especially...
TheTruthisOutThere@... | 11/01/07
|
   
Did you read my post and even try to
jacarter3 | 11/01/07
|
   
If MS is offering downgrades
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/01/07
|
    
Uh, check again
Ed Bott | 11/01/07
|
     
I think he means...
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/01/07
|
     
Same fiasco, different day
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/01/07
|
    
they are doing it to satisfy customers
otaddy | 11/01/07
|
    
If they can...
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|
  
I have looked for those numbers
Ed Bott | 11/01/07
|
   
No Ed
jacarter3 | 11/01/07
|
    
Ed didnt say it was insignificant
otaddy | 11/01/07
|
     
How many times do I have to
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
     
Well we can agree that scotch is good!
otaddy | 11/02/07
|
    
Not what I said
Ed Bott | 11/01/07
|
     
I never said I had the answer, Ed
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
     
Answer
Ed Bott | 11/02/07
|
     
When XP hit the streets
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
     
Third party research
Ed Bott | 11/02/07
|
     
@jacarter3: Polls
ye | 11/03/07
|
    
You do realize when you talk about downgrades
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
|
    
Actual usage numbers prove that it is insignificant.
ShadeTree | 11/03/07
|
     
Shadey ol' pal
jacarter3 | 11/05/07
|
  
at my shop i have installed vista on 463 computers
SO.CAL Guy | 11/01/07
|
   
Not Right
Louis.Ross@... | 11/01/07
|
    
The MS apologist always use that line
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
     
Try this one on for size
itpro_z | 11/02/07
|
     
itpro_z - Please tell me the name of this organization
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
    
Right
itpro_z | 11/02/07
|
     
No one blames Vista for being bloated
jacarter3 | 11/02/07
|
     
To: Jacarter
itpro_z | 11/02/07
|
     
bspro_z
Louis.Ross@... | 11/08/07
|
  
:P
Ben_E | 11/02/07
|
 
Well, considering
Kid Icarus-21097050858087920245213802267493 | 11/01/07
|

Yes, how many?
Ben_E | 11/02/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
kerry.farina@... | 11/01/07
|

well....
Badgered | 11/01/07
|
Probably some truth to it
jamesdivine | 11/01/07
|

You have to learn to walk before you learn to run
Michael Kelly | 11/01/07
|
 
Still not ready
skiplarson | 11/01/07
|
  
I don't disagree with any of that
Michael Kelly | 11/01/07
|
  
Other OS
Louis.Ross@... | 11/01/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
dbriere@... | 11/01/07
|
Few security updates for Vista as compared
rcfoulk@... | 11/01/07
|
Patch me if you can
Chiatzu | 11/01/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
blittrell | 11/01/07
|
Good post, Ed ...
mwagner@... | 11/01/07
|

All that proves is the
Linux User 147560 | 11/01/07
|
 
sorry Linux users until Linux becomes user friendly in installing
SO.CAL Guy | 11/01/07
|
  
Please
Hrothgar - PCLinuxOS User | 11/03/07
|
 
You contradict yourself
otaddy | 11/01/07
|
 
All you prove
xuniL_z | 11/02/07
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False metric
tony@... | 11/01/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
pwoodruff@... | 11/01/07
|
Vista WGA can trash your computer.
rgeiken@... | 11/01/07
|
Maybe more secure but also more of a pain
alkolkin@... | 11/01/07
|
Funny...
Mitch 74 | 11/01/07
|

I had a long brush with Ubuntu
otaddy | 11/01/07
|

This is bogus
Heatlesssun1 | 11/01/07
|
 
I agree
Ben_E | 11/04/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
business@... | 11/01/07
|
Meh
Relorian@... | 11/01/07
|
How long did it take...
Relorian@... | 11/01/07
|
I just migrated...
russc@... | 11/01/07
|
RE: One year later, Vista really is more secure
Crabby Guy | 11/01/07
|
And that's something to write home about?
Mikael_z | 11/02/07
|
Stop attempting to rewrite history.
Anon_ymous | 11/02/07
|
LMAO
Squireldoo@... | 11/02/07
|

Help
sejeff@... | 11/02/07
|
Patch Count Comparison is not Accurate
ghalverson_z | 11/02/07
|

Well...
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
 
RE:Well...
n0neXn0ne | 11/02/07
|
  
I think you're splitting hairs this is why.
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
   
Security should be protectection against the bad guys
Ole Man | 11/05/07
|

Counterpoint
Ben_E | 11/04/07
|
Bill Gates Driving his Edsel to Waterloo
Ole Man | 11/02/07
|
Man
thirtyseven | 11/02/07
|

Man..
ju1ce | 11/02/07
|
 
Mike Cox?
thirtyseven | 11/05/07
|

9.5
Ed Bott | 11/02/07
|

Excellent
rapson | 11/02/07
|
Who's deleting my posts???
Nunya Bidnez | 11/02/07
|
Now wait a minute...
3dguru | 11/03/07
|

You tell us. Your posts implies it happens frequently but...
ye | 11/03/07
|
By that measure
hawkeyeaz1 | 11/03/07
|

Correction on typo
hawkeyeaz1 | 11/03/07
|
Vista Security
summitguy | 11/04/07
|

@summitguy: HW to run it becomes more affordable???
ye | 11/04/07
|
Not comparing like to like
SNWoods | 11/04/07
|

I will agree with this, to a point...
Ben_E | 11/04/07
|
 
This year
Ed Bott | 11/04/07
|
Re: One year later.
lenathome | 11/06/07
|

You seriously need to learn the difference
rtk | 11/06/07
|
 
Personally...
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/06/07
|
  
Agreed, of course
rtk | 11/06/07
|
   
Well..
ego.sum.stig@... | 11/07/07
|
    
stability is just one part of the equation.
rtk | 11/07/07
|

You own 30 computers?
Duke E. Love | 11/07/07
|
Allow me to laugh
LinuxOwns | 12/05/07
|