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December 30th, 2007

Who's choosing XP over Vista?

Posted by Ed Bott @ 4:24 pm

Categories: Hardware, Windows Vista, Windows XP

Tags: Desktop, Implication, Notebook, Dell Computer Corp., Selection, Microsoft Windows Vista, Small Business, Microsoft Windows XP, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Microsoft Windows

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One of the most accepted bits of conventional wisdom among pundits as 2007 draws to a close is that the marketplace has rejected Windows Vista in favor of Windows XP. The biggest piece of evidence is Dell’s decision in April 2007, based on a vocal response via its Dell IdeaStorm page, to continue offering Windows XP as an option on some consumer systems. It picked up steam with Microsoft’s announcement in September that it was going to allow its large OEM partners to preinstall Windows XP until June 30, 2008, a five-month extension over the original January 30 cutoff date. (A CNET News report from last April indicates that HP and Lenovo have adopted similar strategies, offering XP as an option on business-class machines but for consumer products.)

Both of those moves got a lot of press, but proof about how either decision has actually played out in the marketplace is, unfortunately, pretty thin. Microsoft doesn’t break out its mix of Windows shipments with this level of detail. OEM computer makers are tight-lipped as well. And if any third-party market research firms have done any studies on this subject, they have yet to publish the results.

But I stumbled on an unexpected source of data that has helped me get a much better picture on what the actual numbers might be like. As it turns out, Dell has published a large database of information about its current inventory for anyone to see, and I was able to sift through it to form some surprising conclusions about the current relationship between XP and Vista in the PC marketplace. The short version: Consumers have embraced Vista overwhelmingly, whereas small business is much more reluctant, preferring XP by a better than 2-to-1 margin.

My data source is Dell’s Outlet Center, where I have bought five desktop PCs in 2007. Dell maintains separate outlets for its Home and Home Office and Business and Education divisions. Products in the outlet are all current models, divided into three categories: refurbished products, which have been returned by a customer after purchase (typically within 15-30 days); products previously ordered new but not booted by a customer; and “scratch and dent” products, which have minor cosmetic flaws.

The secret of successful shopping at the Dell Outlet, I’ve learned, is to monitor the inventory carefully. In popular categories, such as high-end XPS desktops, new products arrive and are snagged within hours or even minutes if the deal is especially good.

The selection is especially wide and diverse, covering thousands of notebooks and desktops in all price ranges and configurations. If one assumes that the likelihood of a product being returned is more or less equal across the board, that makes the outlet’s inventory an excellent proxy for Dell’s larger business.

And best of all, there’s a fully searchable database front end for the whole thing, which makes it easy to filter the entire inventory by model, processor, memory, video card, or - aha! - installed operating system. In about an hour, I was able to produce some detailed crosstabs and turn them into very informative graphs. Here are the results:

For the time period that I looked at, I examined the full, unfiltered inventory for both outlets. The small business segment included 1509 systems, consisting of low-end Vostro notebooks and desktops and high-end Latitude notebooks and Optiplex desktops. In most of these categories, Dell offers buyers a choice between XP and Vista via its online interface, and 70% of these small business buyers have opted for XP, with only 30% choosing Vista (interestingly, 2% chose the option to have XP Professional installed with a license to upgrade to Vista Business or Ultimate later).

XP versus Vista, small business division

In the consumer category, Dell offers low-end Inspiron desktops and notebooks and higher-end Dimension and XPS desktops and notebooks. Windows XP is available as an online option on a relatively small selection of models. As a result, only 7% of the inventory in the Home and Home Office Outlet is available with Windows XP preinstalled. A full 93% of the systems included Windows Vista.

XP versus Vista, consumer division

One apparent reason for the higher proportion of Vista machines in the consumer segment is the lack of online configuration options. To make the comparison with the business category more accurate, I narrowed the field to only those machines that explicitly offer XP and Vista as options in the online configurator. In the notebook category, this includes the Inspiron 1520, the XPS M1710, and the XPS M1730. In desktops, this includes the Inspiron 530 and 530s and XPS 210.

[Update 1-Jan-2008: Some commenters seem to have misunderstood this detail, so let me be more explicit about what the next section includes. On Dell's Home website, you start by choosing desktops or notebooks. On the landing page for either one, there is a big graphic on the right side of the page that reads "Still looking for Windows XP?" Click that link and you go to this page (if you started out looking for desktops) or this page (for notebooks). Both pages display a huge graphic banner at the top with this label: "THE CHOICE IS YOURS. Windows Vista or Windows XP. You decide." The following section restricts the results from the Outlet inventory to only machines originally offered via these two links.]

When I restricted the sample to only consumer machines where potential buyers were offered the explicit option to choose between XP and Vista, the proportion opting for XP increased by 5%. Out of a total of 388 desktop and notebook PCs, 49, or 12%, were configured with either XP Home or Pro, compared with 88% that selected Vista. That means that buyers, given the clear choice, are opting for Vista over XP by a ratio of more than 7 to 1.

Two other facts stood out when I looked more closely at the data.

  • One is that a staggering 27% of small business customers are opting for either Windows XP Home or Vista Home Basic, even though both are terrible OS choices for any networked business. The implication is that the $100+ difference between the Home and Pro/Business versions is significant for price-conscious business buyers. By contrast, only 13% of buyers in the consumer category are choosing the XP Home/Vista Home Basic option.
  • Finally, Vista Home Premium has been a huge hit for Microsoft. More than 72% of all consumer PCs, desktop and notebook, sold in the Dell Outlet system have Vista Home Premium installed. For all the hand-wringing over Microsoft’s decision to squeeze a few extra dollars out of the consumer channel by emphasizing this particular SKU. Looks like that strategy was successful. As for Vista Ultimate, it hasn’t been a runaway winner. In the consumer sample I looked at, it represented just under 5% of sales, and in the small business side it totaled just over 1% of sales.

The bottom line? If these samples represent Dell’s overall business, which in turn serves as a proxy for the PC market as a whole, Microsoft is on target in its mission to convert the consumer market to Vista through new PC sales. Business buyers, however, remain skeptical. I’ll look at these numbers again in early 2008, after SP1 has been officially released and integrated into Dell’s product lines, to see whether it makes a substantial difference in the marketplace.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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Inventory is current  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/02/08
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Did you ever use ME?  itpro_z | 12/31/07
Nope  voska1 | 12/31/07
some remarks  tombalablomba | 12/31/07
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Nothing better to silince the criticasters  tombalablomba | 12/31/07
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Fine  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/01/08
No need to feel offended Ed.  nizuse | 01/01/08
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Just a thought  itpro_z | 01/02/08
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Not quite correct, Ed  Confused by religion | 12/31/07
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Re-read my post Ed  Confused by religion | 12/31/07
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really?  Badgered | 12/31/07
Stupid is his statement.  jrbeaman | 01/16/08
Well then color me stupid  jamesdivine | 12/31/07
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Now you are quoting me.  itpro_z | 12/31/07
Sorry if (you think) I misquoted you  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Having your usual trouble with comprehension I see.  itpro_z | 01/02/08
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...  techboy_z | 12/31/07
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people don't necessarily have choice  stevey_d | 01/01/08
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right  macosxp | 12/31/07
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XP over Vista  dcowsky@... | 12/31/07
hardware....  archer75 | 01/03/08
Its about cost!  Sonny Maou | 12/31/07
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In Ed's Defense  mrOSX | 12/31/07
Yeah I know.  teddybairs1 | 12/31/07
Go shopping  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/01/08
Ed you missed the point and your XPS 420 is vista only  TG2 | 01/02/08
Software "FDA"  news_reader | 12/31/07
Most PC users will go with what is offered  Vexxarr | 12/31/07
Who would choose XP over Vista?  itpro_z | 12/31/07
People who read the press?  Vexxarr | 01/01/08
Read the posts  itpro_z | 01/01/08
When the majority becomes the minority.........  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Wow, rattlesnakes again!  itpro_z | 01/02/08
rattlesnakes again!  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Nailed it to a tee.  B.Beck | 01/02/08
The value of a product  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Very impressive! Repeat the obvious...........  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Very impressive, Ole Man.  itpro_z | 01/02/08
Nailed to a tee  B.Beck | 01/02/08
And your opinion has merit for what reason?  Ole Man | 01/02/08
When did it change to "Windows vs. Linux"?  kwsjr82 | 01/02/08
What part of my post mentioned "Linux"?  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Corporate users are sticking with XP also.  gypkap@... | 01/02/08
Businesses Choose Vista Because....  dave.leigh@... | 12/31/07
This is why the majority...  bjbrock | 12/31/07
You are correct, of course.  dave.leigh@... | 01/01/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  marchatfield | 12/31/07
Article Request - Holiday Long Xbox LIVE Outage...  BitTwiddler | 12/31/07
Your data is invalid because of buyers like me...  Basic Logic | 12/31/07
Forgot to mention - Opted for XP... (nt)  Basic Logic | 12/31/07
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  lvincent45 | 12/31/07
Well  Badgered | 12/31/07
Vista cheaper than XP Pro  xTalk | 12/31/07
Apples and Oranges comparison  ShadeTree | 12/31/07
re:  xTalk | 12/31/07
How much is Windows Media Center  voska1 | 12/31/07
WHO chooses vista? customers like this...  n0neXn0ne | 12/31/07
Dutch consumer group wants Windows Vista boycott  n0neXn0ne | 12/31/07
You expect an American to know about this?  B.O.F.H. | 12/31/07
There are many Americans that can find Iraq ...  ShadeTree | 12/31/07
Correction:  dave.leigh@... | 01/01/08
Read my lips ...  ShadeTree | 01/03/08
So what is going on in the rest of the world?  B.O.F.H. | 01/01/08
That would indeed be interesting.  nizuse | 01/01/08
Life, Death, Births, Taxes, politics and any ...  ShadeTree | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ghot@... | 12/31/07
Other makes? Dell may not be representative....  techboy_z | 12/31/07
Other stats from where?  Patanjali | 12/31/07
I have yet to see any major spyware outbreak on Vista  zmud | 12/31/07
if there were a serious user base.....  pzalinski@... | 01/02/08
Serious user base?  itpro_z | 01/02/08
Choosing XP  dpstack | 12/31/07
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  flobber238 | 12/31/07
DRIVERS make the difference?  ARyKaXaN | 12/31/07
I concur:  dave.leigh@... | 01/01/08
Yeah, but not limited to  ARyKaXaN | 01/01/08
Always good for hits  nizuse | 12/31/07
I chose XP  nizuse | 12/31/07
Here's a clue...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/01/08
Again, read a bit better  nizuse | 01/01/08
When it comes to music creation, I'd choose XP over Vista.  Grayson Peddie | 12/31/07
yeah, as (almost) anything but office and IE7  ARyKaXaN | 01/01/08
No, that's not correct  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/02/08
Chosing XP over Vista  Bifman | 01/01/08
Vista Versus Xp  clive.gartner@... | 01/01/08
That is the key.  itpro_z | 01/01/08
Diffultly finding the laptops offering XP on Dell site.  Lakeor | 01/01/08
Incredibly small link?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/01/08
Kudos To Mr. Dvorak  itanalyst | 01/01/08
default choice..  kRogue | 01/01/08
A tale of two Vistas...  progon | 01/01/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  hgh9mrp@... | 01/01/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  thejourneyman | 01/01/08
What I love about all these talkbacks...  Ben_E | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  bahamude | 01/02/08
Vista wins because there is no choice for the consumer  barryj@... | 01/02/08
Not just consumers  waltmaine | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  grewcockd@... | 01/02/08
That's possible...BUT!!!!  mikeholli | 01/02/08
It is all a matter of what is available.  shadowagent | 01/02/08
Who's choosing XP over Vista? Me...  ejhonda | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Ronin69 | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ramnet@... | 01/02/08
Let's Address!  mikeholli | 01/02/08
Phoney Numbers  ceh4702 | 01/02/08
XP Home for business: is it the $100 or is it ignorance?  dserdu | 01/02/08
Regarding $100  steelcuda | 01/02/08
People who don't know any better  Dr_Zinj | 01/02/08
An interesting quote  Dr_Zinj | 01/03/08
Flawed methodology  rcfoulk@... | 01/02/08
I may need some clarification on that  klarenberg@... | 01/03/08
They are still different populations  rcfoulk@... | 01/03/08
The Problems With Vista  chessmen | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  hank.raleigh@... | 01/02/08
XP SP3 is 2X faster than Vista SP1  batia | 01/02/08
"I have read"...  itpro_z | 01/02/08
"I have read"...  Ole Man | 01/02/08
"I have read" Nonsense from itpro_z  chessmen | 01/16/08
When I shopped Dell, XP cost more than XP  baldwinleo@... | 01/02/08
I prefer XP, Vista to slow.  jfroom@... | 01/02/08
'obvious' links are often ignored  jeremy@... | 01/02/08
No suprise  crypt2121 | 01/02/08
Why do I read these remarks?  meryllogue@... | 01/02/08
No it doesn't  l_d_griffith@... | 01/02/08
but you have to reason . . .  OtisLamb@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  erm@... | 01/02/08
I tried Vista for the first time on saturday  dbkelley@... | 01/02/08
I agree with everything apart from the beauty thing  stevey_d | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  mjvtz@... | 01/02/08
dell vista purchase  k.lamantia@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  cne@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  fone@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  bstreet | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  MrBeck | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  wjbyman@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  arodriguez@... | 01/02/08
Re: Flawed methodology  zappster | 01/02/08
Return because it is Vista  jmika@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  retchet@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  gmiller@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  craigd@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  erniem1970@... | 01/02/08
Who? People with gray matter between their ears...  3dtodd | 01/02/08
Come on Guys I love my VISTA  ralphdb@... | 01/02/08
bs  archer75 | 01/03/08
Hearts  ralphdb@... | 01/07/08
OX Apple  JohnWHindes@... | 01/02/08
Probably not a valid assumption  gangof5ma | 01/02/08
Ed, can you redo the stats for scratched and dented only?  klarenberg@... | 01/02/08
Here are the results you asked for  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/02/08
Convincing, Ed !  klarenberg@... | 01/03/08
Vista for developers?  wayne@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  dougt@... | 01/02/08
the only reason to upgrade from win2k is 64bit over 32bit. while vista seem  wessonjoe | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  trainer_1@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  dogmo1001 | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  masallax@... | 01/02/08
Amen  ralphdb@... | 01/07/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  dougpiano6@... | 01/02/08
An update - Dell looses all my respect  dougpiano6@... | 01/02/08
But when it comes to KNOWLEDGEABLE users...  swats | 01/02/08
Knowledgeable users wouldn't be buying into all this FUD  archer75 | 01/03/08
If he were right Microsoft would be the one telling everyone  JonathanSeer | 01/02/08
My experience with the Dell Outlet Store  AbbyD@... | 01/02/08
not sure why....  maguilar2k | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  donlprice@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Kuby | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  schole@... | 01/02/08
Agreed  rc@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  genehughes@... | 01/02/08
Consistency and XPPro works with SAS  genehughes@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  zdnet@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  lkilbourn | 01/02/08
I don't understand  JRCBY@... | 01/02/08
Repeating History  fred@... | 01/02/08
No History  rc@... | 01/02/08
No History  fred@... | 01/02/08
Consumers  rc@... | 01/02/08
Who is choosing or who is being shf...td with Vista  rdelaplaza | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  wolluf | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jan133 | 01/02/08
XP vs. Vista  donlprice@... | 01/02/08
Give the man a Ceegar!  Ole Man | 01/02/08
Yeessss RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES !  rdelaplaza | 01/03/08
POS =  Cardhu | 01/04/08
No Choice  rc@... | 01/02/08
Vista is a DOWNGRADE!  Mahegan | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  robert.henkel@... | 01/02/08
That is not the way Ed see's it!!  hbashman@... | 01/02/08
Creative Statistics  preacherx | 01/02/08
Couldn't agree more  Mahegan | 01/02/08
Microsoft Vs Microsoft - whoever wins you loose  pawan@... | 01/02/08
One reason why the numbers are so different between home vs corporate.  Cerebral*Origami | 01/02/08
A hypothesis: consumers are going for Vista because they don't know the dif  mark16_15@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  webgov | 01/02/08
Dell refused to install XP  shellyf@... | 01/02/08
Data may support other conclusions  klarenberg@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  alaniane@... | 01/02/08
Errata  alaniane@... | 01/02/08
Focred to Switch  brody.white@... | 01/02/08
Dell soft sale of Vista  rolf.ernst@... | 01/02/08
XP over Vista - Any day of the week  joe@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Elle_ | 01/02/08
no surprise  reedjjjr | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  drprodny | 01/02/08
You are not reading the data correctly...  mikifinaz1@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  mechayla@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jgessing1@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  hcameranut | 01/02/08
Business orders with Home/Home Basic  Dr. John | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  atari8bit@... | 01/02/08
I'll Stay with XP  dlopp | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  kmumme | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Publisher_z | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  rob.radina@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ea_baker@... | 01/02/08
They aren't "choosing" Vista . . .  critic-at-arms | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Likewow | 01/02/08
Like wow  notsofast | 01/02/08
RE: XP Home  ohiomike | 01/02/08
Companies buy Vista laptops and replace OS with XP  alexh1@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  dennyc5@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  strategery | 01/02/08
? is IS MSFT reading These???  schlicht@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jimmanis | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  LadyWriter@... | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  bcjinsantafe | 01/02/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  gilhardwick@... | 01/03/08
XP/Vista home in business  tony@... | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  green alien | 01/03/08
Bingo  JohnrC | 01/03/08
SP3?  green alien | 01/04/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Kasey156 | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  wcosales@... | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  rhochstedler@... | 01/03/08
Hmmm....  ejhonda | 01/03/08
Too much TV...  Bob.Kerns | 01/03/08
perhaps you're unaware of the User Manager in XP  stevey_d | 01/03/08
DO consumers know the difference?  fivecoate@... | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ITsupportGuy | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ceh4702 | 01/03/08
I'm sure it's already been said...  ju1ce | 01/03/08
Forgot to add...  ju1ce | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  connect2aksh@... | 01/03/08
subjective and anecdotal evidence  Insight Driver | 01/03/08
Your figures of 93% vs 7% are wrong  SirCatlord | 01/03/08
Dell is enforcing Vista, not MS  xTalk | 01/03/08
MS is behind the enforcement  jgessing1@... | 01/03/08
RE: Except the Home website discourages you from buying XP--so bad data  royalef | 01/03/08
The real reason...  Narg | 01/03/08
What is it that you like ?  jgessing1@... | 01/03/08
no "choice" about it  catseverywhere@... | 01/03/08
I concur  jgessing1@... | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  rosemyystt@... | 01/03/08
I still use XP Pro SP2 (soon to be SP3! :D)  John Musbach | 01/03/08
TinyXP Platinum 2 by eXPerience  Shinsengumi | 01/03/08
Does Dells data show who already owns XP?  rmhesche | 01/03/08
Nice idea, but not really a good statistic source  john@... | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  WxDude | 01/03/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  nisumin | 01/04/08
What Ed didn't mention about the Outlet...  devlin_X | 01/04/08
LOL!!!  Kasey156 | 01/04/08
Nice try...but wrong  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/05/08
You're only forced to switch  Boot_Agnostic | 01/04/08
Meet the need  santuccie | 01/04/08
Oops  santuccie | 01/04/08
Being forced to buy Vista is not equivalent to using it  zaine_ridling | 01/05/08
Vista boot time  nisumin | 01/05/08
Vista boot time edit  nisumin | 01/05/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Spaedie | 01/05/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  helenb1azes@... | 01/05/08
Everyone who wants things to work right  jimk_z | 01/06/08
"XP Is Rock Solid"  Cardhu | 01/07/08
I can not believe the author doesnt understand these stats  jimk_z | 01/06/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  andersonjesse28 | 01/06/08
What are you trying to say?  Cardhu | 01/07/08
You've missed an important segment !!  afhavemann@... | 01/07/08
This Is A Really Good Observation  Cardhu | 01/08/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  descifra | 01/07/08
Microsoft has announced a new sales milestone for Windows Vista: 100 millio  Kasey156 | 01/07/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  AnnDroid1 | 01/07/08
XP/VISTA/UBUNTU  formaninder@... | 01/07/08
XP Professional for me  mouseten@... | 01/08/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  tonyfeathers@... | 01/09/08
Huh?  Cardhu | 01/10/08
Agreed too  megamanx | 01/11/08
Your numbers are out of touch  cipher.nemo@... | 01/15/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jclayton@... | 01/16/08
General Public and Vista  DonG43 | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  mrleo1957 | 01/16/08
Another interpretation of the data  valerie@... | 01/16/08
Are consumers REALLY choosing?  kjonmyway | 01/16/08
HELP!!!!! WHERE?  jrbeaman | 01/16/08
Where to buy a laptop that comes with XP  kjonmyway | 01/18/08
Where to buy desktops with XP  kjonmyway | 01/18/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  derpaul@... | 01/16/08
THIS "STUDY" IS A FRAUD!  jrbeaman | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  tanyas13@... | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista? EVERY ONE THAT CAN!  jrbeaman | 01/16/08
I LOOOVE System Restores!  MikeHenley | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  sborsher | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jimc52@... | 01/16/08
The Truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth  rfservices | 01/16/08
I'll tell you why...  ardentangel@... | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  rlawler | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  jfg-online | 01/16/08
YOU CAN'T CHOOSE WHAT YOU CAN'T BUY!  promytius1@... | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  noraadrienne@... | 01/16/08
XP Over Vista ? Industrial Business  don.baker@... | 01/16/08
Thank you Vista...  BGALUMNI | 01/16/08
I bought a copy of XP, was also sent XP x64  rmhesche | 01/16/08
Most don't konw  jsjag1 | 01/16/08
XP is easier than Vista...  Tmanisback | 01/16/08
how true  Tmanisback | 01/16/08
EVERYONE seems to be overlooking something here.  flared0ne | 01/16/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  rchartier@... | 01/16/08
Only because it is being jambed down their throats...  mikifinaz1@... | 01/16/08
Statistical Sample  davemulk | 01/16/08
Even MS Says use XP!!!  wwwsupport | 01/17/08
Choose?  pkrdk | 01/17/08
Users don't know  old geek | 01/17/08
You're on the right track!  dmacnevin | 01/17/08
sales numbers don't give the whole answer  paulwalter@... | 01/17/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  bbilott@... | 01/17/08
Your Consumer numbers are skewed, there is no "choice"!  mroberts@... | 01/17/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ljbuchman@... | 01/17/08
Nobody does "Cover-Up" like MS  Wittigpc@... | 01/17/08
This Consumer Wishes He Had Stuck with XP  ford_prefect | 01/17/08
Keep in mind...  DCMann | 01/17/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  geewhizbang | 01/17/08
Vista not a choice for anyone I know  rafarn@... | 01/17/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  nighthawk205@... | 01/18/08
I still don't trust the Dell numbers ....  dougpiano6@... | 01/18/08
One point to customer service ....  dougpiano6@... | 01/18/08
How many new machines have Vista Home on them?  Interested Amateur | 01/20/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  ef-1st@... | 01/21/08
Dumping Vista.  ralphdb@... | 01/21/08
My First Mac  pgstp@... | 01/21/08
Wrong  Sheeva | 02/07/08
Back to XP for me...  richard.ashford@... | 02/07/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  masmommy@... | 02/07/08
You've missed an important segment !!  afhavemann@... | 02/07/08
"wrong" got it right  sonoffar@... | 02/07/08
How about the 100's of "other" pc manufacturers  jerryh@... | 02/07/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  Larry Caldwell | 02/08/08
Vista is a dog.....  mluther223@... | 02/08/08
re:Vista is a dog.....  james.faction | 02/09/08
you're checking the wrong stats  djtrueheart@... | 02/09/08
RE: Who's choosing XP over Vista?  fredyboy12 | 04/16/08

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