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October 29th, 2008

You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers

Posted by Ed Bott @ 4:26 pm

Categories: Windows 7

Tags: Microsoft Windows 7, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows Vista (Longhorn), Operating Systems, Software, Ed Bott, Microsoft Windows Vista, PDC, IMAGE

It’s impossible to offer a comprehensive evaluation of a product as big and sprawling as Windows 7 with just screenshots and specs. That’s doubly true when looking at a preliminary release that’s still missing some key features. My first look at the pre-beta PDC release of Windows 7 inspired plenty of great feedback and questions, along with an understandable amount of confusion and apprehension. I’ll address some of the most prevalent questions and comments in this post.

Isn’t the new Windows 7 user interface just a coat of paint slapped over the Vista UI?

Short answer: no. The build I have to work with is very Vista-like, missing the new Start menu, desktop, and taskbar enhancements. The demos I’ve seen here at PDC use more recent builds where those features are available. Those features will reach users in the form of a beta “early next year.”

In the past 48 hours, I’ve had a chance to get a closer look at those new UI features. One thing becomes obvious after only a few minutes of playing with the new interface: The Windows 7 design team has paid an enormous amount of attention to small details and have focused on workflows and end-to-end experiences, not just on dialog boxes and feature sets. The result feels comfortingly familiar to any Windows user, although the overall experience is often significantly different when you break down its small details.

One example that illustrates the point is the difference between Backup programs in Windows Vista and Windows 7. The Windows 7 version, shown below, includes a key feature missing from its Vista predecessor – the ability to include or exclude a folder from a backup set. But that’s not all: the entire workflow of the backup process has been streamlined dramatically. It takes 10-15 clicks to perform an image backup in Windows Vista; on a Windows 7 notebook I tested, the operating system offered to perform a backup when I plugged in an external hard drive. The entire process took three clicks and less than 10 minutes. The customization screen shown here added only two clicks to the entire process.

Windows 7 backup utility

Is it faster? Really?

Measuring performance is tough enough with released code. For something billed as a “pre-beta” release and offered primarily for developers, it’s inappropriate and frankly foolish to even attempt granular measurements of speeds and startup times. My subjective impression is that this OS feels quick and impressively responsive, but I’m not prepared to break out the stopwatch until I have a more polished build.

In fact, when I sat down with Windows boss Steven Sinofsky for a one-on-one chat on Monday, he noted that much of the work Microsoft has done with Windows 7 involves interaction with hardware OEMs, helping them see how decisions they make – tuning the BIOS, choosing drivers, and pre-installing software – impact overall performance.

Sinofsky noted that the system I’m currently traveling with – a Sony Vaio TZ2000 with Windows Vista Business – will start up the PDC build of Windows 7 in 15 seconds. I’ll be installing the Windows 7 bits on this machine to see that level of performance for myself.

Isn’t this just a blatant ripoff of OS X/KDE/etc.?

Tracing the ancestry of UI innovations is tricky. There are, after all, only so many ways to interact with pixels on a screen to make things happen. And it’s foolish not to pay attention to what competitors past and present have done. As I pointed out in my first look, the new taskbar clearly borrows some concepts from the OS X dock, but it retains the Windows DNA and adds some smart behaviors that one-up Apple, most notably Jump Lists and live, clickable previews.

Ironically, the company with the most right to complain about UI ripoffs is Microsoft itself. In a presentation at PDC yesterday, Microsoft Senior Program Manager Chaitanya Sareen traced the lineage of those big taskbar buttons back to Windows 1.01, which was released in 1985. Desktop gadgets? Those were a key part of IE4’s Active Desktop in 1997.

What’s in it for corporate customers?

If you’re an IT pro who’s chosen to stick with XP and eschew Vista, many of the enterprise-focused benefits of Windows 7 are features you could have gotten with a Vista deployment, most notably improvements in group policy and image-based deployment. But there’s plenty of good stuff in Windows 7 as well, as my ZDNet colleague Mary Jo Foley outlined earlier today.

Microsoft hasn’t spent a lot of its Windows 7 demo time on corporate features. But the most noteworthy addition I’ve seen so far is native support for virtual hard drive (VHD) images. Using Windows 7, you’ll be able to mount a VHD as a local drive and, more importantly, boot from that virtual image. The most obvious application is rolling out a standard corporate image to remote workers, such as those in a call center, who don’t require local data storage and are capable of working in a strictly managed, locked-down configuration.

Is the Shut Down button fixed?

Yes. It’s not in the PDC builds, but the new Start menu that will be available in the beta release next year has replaced the confusing Vista power-button icon with an easy-to-customize alternative, shown here.

Windows 7 shutdown button

I know that you, dear readers, have questions of your own. Hit the Talkback button and ask away. I’ll answer the most interesting questions in my next installment.

Ed BottEd Bott is an award-winning technology writer with more than two decades' experience writing for mainstream media outlets and online publications. See his full profile and disclosure of his industry affiliations.

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RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers
Question, So if I have an OEM xp disk, and a vista upgrade, and a windows 7 upgrade, - to do a clean install do i really have to install windows xp to get it to install?... (Read the rest)
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No images in the article.  dcoaster | 10/29/08
Fixed  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/29/08
Redundant article title  tgibson@... | 10/30/08
NOT redundant; grammatically correct.  Flying Pig | 10/30/08
Re: Redundancy Issues  DBLYTHE@... | 10/31/08
Thanks for that (and a note on copy editing)  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/31/08
Not sure if you're trying to be funny but...  mikefarinha | 11/01/08
Shadow copy....  JoeMama_z | 10/29/08
Watch the keynote videos  MyBlueRex | 10/29/08
Network and Sharing Center is a mess in Vista  alex_b | 10/30/08
Huh?  de-void | 11/02/08
Is this satire?  Bozzer | 10/30/08
DPI scaling of gadgets  dannyres | 10/29/08
huh?  MyBlueRex | 10/29/08
yes  dannyres | 10/29/08
Not even the latest version of the GUI  timiteh | 10/30/08
I hope you have noticed...  bmerc | 10/30/08
Well  timiteh | 10/30/08
ok...  shadowscrawl | 10/30/08
I think you'll like the Beta  de-void | 10/30/08
On the GUI  aw3109@... | 10/29/08
Yay, answers. OK, what about Accessibility?  beoz | 10/29/08
Ed, this is an excellent, and very important question.  Grayson Peddie | 10/30/08
Here is what I know...  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
That'll save me some money from buying ZoomText.  Grayson Peddie | 10/30/08
... and here's what I know.  IanLeGrow(MS) | 10/30/08
assistive technology vendors  rep32 | 11/01/08
AiSquared, Freedom Scientific, And Many Others  Grayson Peddie | 11/01/08
GREAT tips happy  de-void | 10/30/08
I want...  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
LOL happy  de-void | 10/31/08
Too Late  mikefarinha | 10/31/08
2 Windows 7 Questions  Mercy0001 | 10/29/08
Top Question Everyone Really Wants To Know  chessmen | 10/29/08
Good joke, that...  cgdams | 10/30/08
Depends who they listen to  deaf_e_kate | 10/30/08
Vista isn't perfect...  Sleeper Service | 10/30/08
i agree but there are others  deaf_e_kate | 10/30/08
Really? Who would those "others" be? nt  ye | 10/30/08
Yes.  CobraA1 | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  g_keramidas@... | 10/29/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  nospam@... | 10/29/08
How about you actually tell us what they are...  Sleeper Service | 10/30/08
1 Question  Haku.Mele | 10/29/08
Plenty Questions?  Windows Defender | 10/30/08
A few of those already have answers.  Alan Burns | 10/30/08
Some questions (original ?)  timiteh | 10/30/08
I can't say 100% for sure... But...  Wolfie2K3 | 10/30/08
VHD = Virtual Hard Disk  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
Sounds like a Windows implementation  frgough | 10/30/08
However  Alan Burns | 10/30/08
I guess no one really knows  frgough | 10/30/08
Install and boot from a VHD  de-void | 10/30/08
Pretty solid article  TedKraan | 10/30/08
Multi-core CPUs?  No_Ax_to_Grind | 10/30/08
Ditto  Stuka | 10/30/08
What needs to be done?  CobraA1 | 10/30/08
Like removal of spin-lock dispatcher and...  kfan | 10/30/08
256 processors not cores. There is no limit on core support. (NT)  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
Yes and No...  thenetavenger | 11/02/08
Windows 7 to scale to 256 processors  de-void | 10/30/08
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NT came from 3Open -OS2 with HAL  orignal_traveler | 11/04/08
Nonsense  de-void | 11/04/08
Did Comptia and others get it wrong  orignal_traveler | 11/05/08
Perhaps  de-void | 11/06/08
Be careful using "SMP" - it means more than one thing  orignal_traveler | 11/04/08
SMP == Symmetrical Multi-Processing  de-void | 11/04/08
Thank you for the update  orignal_traveler | 11/05/08
LOL  de-void | 11/06/08
Windows 7 vs Surface  General C# | 10/30/08
Surface is different.  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
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Boot from VHD doesn't use virtualization  de-void | 10/30/08
This would be good for game compatibility then?  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
You'll have to check post-beta!  de-void | 11/04/08
Sensors  rjohn05 | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  MarkLR | 10/30/08
Vista Features  cfischer83@... | 10/30/08
humm  CobraA1 | 10/30/08
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Answers  de-void | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  greg@... | 10/30/08
well  CobraA1 | 10/30/08
FAIL!  de-void | 10/30/08
Vista SE  Kromaethius | 10/30/08
Not quite the same as Win98SE  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
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Classic Menu supported? Move Taskbar?  Jim Johnson | 10/30/08
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Carefully managed media hype  Mahegan | 10/30/08
When you're the most widely used OS in the world ...  de-void | 10/30/08
Normally I wouldn't reply  LiquidLearner | 11/01/08
Vista is a flop, a WinME2, people don't want it  Mikael_z | 11/02/08
I respectfully disagree  LiquidLearner | 11/02/08
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Yes.  de-void | 10/30/08
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Who will need Windows 7?  Dukhalion | 10/30/08
The case for Win7  de-void | 10/30/08
That's true as far as it goes but  Dukhalion | 11/01/08
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Dumbing down  alpinesoft | 10/30/08
No  de-void | 10/30/08
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No, Windows doesn't have the "most right to complain"  1wayne | 10/30/08
Superbar != Dock  de-void | 10/30/08
Unless its XP like, its a BIG BAG OF HURT.  heinz123 | 10/30/08
you are so right  NoThomas | 10/30/08
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How nice...  Badgered | 10/30/08
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Wizards, a way for the nieve to get more than they barganed for  orignal_traveler | 11/05/08
will I be able to change/add file actions  officerbill | 10/30/08
UAC and specific programs  JRBenning | 10/30/08
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Then surpress it when launched by me  JRBenning | 10/30/08
I agree ...  de-void | 10/30/08
Slider for specific programs, maybe?  JRBenning | 11/04/08
Interesting idea  de-void | 11/06/08
That's kind of the problem  DotNetWill | 10/31/08
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64-bit  de-void | 10/30/08
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You're joking, right?  tails5 | 11/04/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  merc2dogs` | 10/30/08
DRM still a problem?  rtk | 10/30/08
Native support for HDCP  LiquidLearner | 11/02/08
whats meds?  do it yourself IT | 11/03/08
What problems  rtk | 11/03/08
Vista - Horrible Upgrade Ability  stevenmalaw | 10/30/08
whats wrong is the install limitations  cymru999 | 10/30/08
Too early to tell, but ...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 10/31/08
RE: Microsoft was NOT the first, in 1997, to create the idea of Gadgets!!!!  netzd | 10/30/08
Well Before that...  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
And that's worth five exclamation marks?  cgdams | 11/01/08
Claim to credit - and a cup of coffee  orignal_traveler | 11/04/08
Hang on a sec ...  de-void | 11/06/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  netzd | 10/30/08
Questions  anonymuos | 10/30/08
Fixes galore!  de-void | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions  fotografx@... | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions  fotografx@... | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  ralph.seeley@... | 10/30/08
OSX still better (at the moment)  3dtodd | 10/30/08
..only skin deep...  Narg | 10/30/08
What is up with 'virtual' desktops?  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
They are useful to some people.  storm14k | 10/31/08
Windows has ALWAYS had a virtual desktop!  de-void | 11/06/08
They didn't forget...  storm14k | 10/31/08
Ummm....  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
Perhaps you just didn't know...  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
Aero Peek is new?  storm14k | 10/31/08
Aero Peek isn't live previews.  mikefarinha | 10/31/08
Don't knock it until you've tried it.  de-void | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  islandsparkle@... | 10/30/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  mjc2002 | 10/30/08
All GUI's "ripped off" Xerox!  de-void | 10/30/08
What about file structure?  access_nikita@... | 10/30/08
Hmmm....  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
Hopefully they stick with the Win7 structure  mikefarinha | 10/30/08
Libraries  de-void | 10/30/08
Yea that will be nice as I have all my stuff on an external HDD (NT)  logicearth@... | 10/30/08
You and I both! happy  de-void | 10/31/08
RE: Windows 7  CaP/ | 10/30/08
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Hmmm....  logicearth@... | 10/31/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  Gis Bun | 10/31/08
It's all about the speed...  flyerbry | 10/31/08
Perf Issues  de-void | 11/02/08
Is Microsoft simply repeating history?  btljooz | 10/31/08
*sigh* Do not compare Vista to Windows ME, they are nothing a like.  logicearth@... | 10/31/08
Walks like a "duck" - History repeating itself  orignal_traveler | 11/04/08
WinME and Vista are entirely different beasts  de-void | 11/04/08
Properly patched can cause its own problems  orignal_traveler | 11/05/08
Intel's drivers  de-void | 11/06/08
Voice for vista?  studio52@... | 10/31/08
Mic always worked fine. It has for me (NT)  logicearth@... | 10/31/08
Ditto for me.  cgdams | 11/01/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  shadfurman | 10/31/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  john3347@... | 11/01/08
Did you RTFA?  Sleeper Service | 11/01/08
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RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  jmu3 | 11/03/08
Yes (NT)  logicearth@... | 11/03/08
RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  philosoraptor | 11/08/08
In RTM? Oh wait its not in RTM yet, non-issue. (NT)  logicearth@... | 11/08/08
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RE: You've got Windows 7 questions, I've got answers  CharlesEtheridge@... | 11/25/08
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Windows 7 installation question  briangregory | 01/30/09
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Windows 7 free upgrade?  Pat-in-Omaha | 08/01/09
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Something that it's driving me nuts everytime i use my pc happy  cristi2k | 09/12/09
DATE and TIME display  Biforked | 10/21/09
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