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January 1st, 2009

If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7

Posted by Ed Bott @ 12:21 pm

Categories: Windows 7

Tags: Desktop, Box, Desktop Icon, Microsoft Windows 7, Control Panel, Jason, Run, Microsoft Windows, Microsoft Windows XP, Operating Systems

My colleague Jason Perlow has been playing with Windows 7, and he hates it. The sad thing is, all the things he hates are improvements, in my opinion, which just goes to show that you really can’t please everyone. But what’s sad to see is that every setting Jason describes as broken is in fact easily customizable so it works the way he wants it.

The crux of Jason’s complaint is simple: “I learned how to use Windows in 1998. Don’t change a thing.” Here’s his main argument in a nutshell:

I find it difficult to believe that Windows 7 was created to be easier to use than Vista — if anything, they’ve introduced a number of UI changes that make the system much harder to navigate, particularly if you’ve never used Vista and are going direct to Windows 7 from Windows XP, which is the path that many users will experience.

Yes, there’s a learning curve. And if you insist on using those techniques you learned back in the last millennium with software that was designed differently, you will be frustrated. But I believe that an open-minded XP user who actually takes a few minutes to learn how the new UI works will be more productive very quickly. The secret is breaking old habits and developing new ones. Let’s take all three of Jason’s examples and work through them.

Jason: “The ‘Run’ option is no longer directly accessible from the Start Menu, you have to get to it via a Search.”

Where do I begin? First of all, the Search box at the bottom of the Start menu does nearly everything the Run box did, and much more. If you begin typing a command, it appears in the Start menu, where you can click or press Enter to run it. With the Run box, I have to type a command in full and possibly even include its path. If I mistype the name, I get an error message. Want to play Solitaire? With the Search box, you can begin typing sol and the first choice on the list will be Solitaire, ready to run when you press Enter:

The Windows 7 Search menu is easier than the XP-style Run box

But the worst part of the Run box is that it requires you to learn the names of executable files. In XP, if you open the Run box, type solitaire, and press Enter you’ll get a cryptic error message. You need to know that the name of the executable is sol.exe. Want to play Minesweeper? You’re SOL with the Run box until you learn that the executable is named Winmine.exe. The Vista/Win7 Search box, by contrast, works with program names and executable files.

Still not convinced? You want the old- school Run box? So just press Windows key+R. That shortcut has been around since the mid-1990s and still works in Windows Vista and Win7.

Not good enough? Fine. Customize the Vista/Win7 Start menu to add the Run command and you can party like it’s 1998. Right-click Start, choose Properties, click Customize, and select this check box.

Customize the Vista/Windows 7 Start menu to add the Run box

Jason: “Another thing that greatly frustrated me was the fact that a fresh install of Windows 7 gives the end-user a blank slate on the Desktop, removing the familiar ‘Computer’, ‘Network’, ‘Control Panel’ and ‘My Documents’ icons, requiring users to get to those functions and folders via the Start Menu.”

Jason thinks this is “change for the sake of change.” I disagree. I’ve been talking to Windows UI designers and usability testers for years, and I can tell you that moving this stuff off the desktop is a huge usability win for novices and experts alike. If you rely on desktop icons, you have to minimize all open windows first before you can even see the icons on the desktop, then you have to click them. That adds unnecessary steps to every navigation option, and adds still more steps to get back to the windows you were working with previously. Once you wean yourself from desktop icons, all you have to do is tap the Windows key or click the Start button and you are one click away from any common file storage location. You can also press Windows key+E to open Explorer, where common locations are neatly arranged in the navigation pane.

Jason thinks the option to restore those desktop icons is “not intuitive.” Well, if you open the Start menu and type “desktop icons” in the Search box, the very first result is “Show or hide common icons on the desktop.” There’s another shortcut that’s even easier to discover. Every Windows user quickly learns how to right-click the desktop and choose Personalize, so they can adjust the desktop background (you old-timers remember it as wallpaper). When you do, you’ll see a very prominent “Change desktop icons” option at the top left. It leads here:

Put old-style icons back on the Vista or Windows 7 desktop

Jason: “I also find the Windows 7 Control Panel to be less intuitive than XP’s […] you now need one additional mouse click to see all the Control Panel options — of which there are now approximately double than which existed in XP. Clearly, they could have done a better job at consolidating functions, or at the very least, provided a better UI for navigating such a long list of stuff.”

The Windows XP Control Panel intuitive? A folder filled with icons, many with cryptic/technical names, doesn’t seem intuitive to me. I think familiar might be a more accurate word to describe the reaction of someone who learned where everything is the hard way. Meanwhile, if you want “a better UI for navigating such a long list of stuff” it’s right there already. See that search box in the upper right corner? It’s a huge improvement on the old folder full of Control Panel icons. If you don’t believe me, try changing your screen saver from the Windows XP Control Panel. Does it make sense that you have to click the Display icon and then choose the Screen Saver tab to get there? You know those steps because you’ve been doing it that way for 14 years, but it’s hardly intuitive.

By contrast, in Windows Vista and Windows 7, you type the word screen into the search box, and the list automatically filters as you type. I think this result list is pretty helpful:

Use the Search box in Control Panel to filter the list of optionsFor an even better example, try finding the option to show hidden files in Windows Explorer. With XP, you have to open Control Panel, double-click Folder Options, and then click the View tab. Now, would the average person know that file settings are under Folder Options? That hardly seems intuitive.

By contrast, type hidden in the Control Panel search box and here’s what you see:

Another example filtering the Control Panel options in Windows Vista and Windows 7

The very first option on the list takes you to the correct tab on the correct dialog box, with exactly one click. That’s a huge improvement over the XP solution; in fact, when I open Control Panel in Windows XP I am enormously frustrated over the inability to do anything except drill down into icons to find the right one.

The real problem most XP users will have when migrating to the Windows 7 interface is that they need to unlearn those old navigation models. The longer you’ve been using PCs, the more likely you are to reflexively assume that the solution is to pull down a menu or double-click an icon. Those techniques worked fine back in the 1990s, but today, with instant search available just about everywhere in the Windows UI, those old techniques are as dated as a pair of Dockers.

If you’re an XP veteran, take some time to learn why the new interface was designed the way it was. Believe me, those designers and  usability professionals didn’t just make this stuff up. If you’re willing to learn a few new techniques, I guarantee your productivity will increase over time.

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Let me guess...  DannyO_0x98 | 01/01/09
It's about money  bblackmoor@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  machas7 | 01/01/09
You should read the E7 blog  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  duane.wills@... | 01/01/09
So just switch to Linux.  pandakahn | 01/01/09
Because you're a tool.  NStalnecker | 01/01/09
RE: Because you're a *ool?  n0neXn0ne | 01/01/09
Er.. Maybe because I want to e productive...  Wolfie2K3 | 01/02/09
Then it looks like you're stuck regardless...  storm14k | 01/03/09
That migration is already under way  bblackmoor@... | 01/05/09
Re: The future  harrisharris | 01/05/09
If you use Windows in the 1st place, you get use to change  Boot_Agnostic | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Bryan Price | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  pbvrana@... | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Anonymous Benefactor | 01/01/09
RE: ..., you'll hate Windows 7 desktop  n0neXn0ne | 01/01/09
RE: ..., you'll hate Windows 7 desktop  timiteh | 01/02/09
Think Office!  clindhartsen | 01/01/09
Think OpenOffice  bblackmoor@... | 01/05/09
When will they put the recycle bin on the task bar?  aep528 | 01/01/09
You can put it on a Quick launch toolbar  timiteh | 01/02/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  lionel.menchaca | 01/01/09
What about the mouse-only users?  MariusSilverwolf | 01/01/09
Love windows xp? lol  shellcodes_coder | 01/01/09
Evolution, deal with it.  savarese04 | 01/01/09
Thumbs up  shellcodes_coder | 01/01/09
Evolution indeed.  jalexoid@... | 01/02/09
You don't need the command line to ping either....  storm14k | 01/03/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  evertsfnic@... | 01/01/09
Agree with you Ed -- Almost  croberts | 01/01/09
It makes too much sense  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 01/02/09
I kinda been liking Vista  nospam@... | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Reality Bites | 01/01/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  anurag08priyam | 01/01/09
From Vista to XP  General C# | 01/02/09
I'd love to see your keyboard...  Steve Rose | 01/02/09
He is not your "colleague" if...  Anonymous Benefactor | 01/02/09
It's not that -I- do not know.  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 01/02/09
Except that...  Sleeper Service | 01/03/09
Which ones?  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 01/03/09
So what about the average user.  Cayble | 01/04/09
"There should be more advanced built in help"  Ole Man | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  rdnoble@... | 01/02/09
One time learning  sjbinaz | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jwspicer | 01/02/09
Interface Switch in 1984  lundp@... | 01/04/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  medezark@... | 01/02/09
Did they kill the classic look for the control panel?  Randalllind | 01/02/09
Did you even try the Search Box?  cgdams | 01/02/09
hmm  gnesterenko | 01/02/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  perversion2003@... | 01/02/09
Newer is automatically better? Don't think so  John L. Ries | 01/02/09
I find this really funny...  teddybairs1 | 01/02/09
I see the future...  Intosh | 01/02/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Reged | 01/02/09
I am 100pct with Jason.  Aly Tomji | 01/02/09
re: search within  harrisharris | 01/05/09
Microsoft  technical_turbulence | 01/02/09
what software development monopoly?  rtk | 01/02/09
Let me rephrase ...  technical_turbulence | 01/03/09
Yes. A monopoly on development for *Windows OS*. (nt)  V@... | 01/04/09
And Ford has a monopoly  rtk | 01/04/09
Can I have some of what you're smoking?  V@... | 01/04/09
So, let me get this straight ...  de-void | 01/09/09
2009 will bring... a new operating system. One that will out-do Windows.  DoubleHT | 01/02/09
Who wants a modular OS?  technical_turbulence | 01/02/09
There's nothing wrong with having modules.  V@... | 01/04/09
Task Manager  tpiom | 01/02/09
Don't think there's a fix for this  rtk | 01/03/09
search is only good if you know the name  Randalllind | 01/02/09
I have been wondering about this magical search as well.  storm14k | 01/03/09
Nothing magical about it!  Ole Man | 01/03/09
you can also search for a description  qmlscycrajg | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  nichow | 01/02/09
Let them use XP - Forever if they want  jpr75_z | 01/03/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ghot@... | 01/03/09
Didn't you read the post  dprozzo | 01/03/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jimk_z | 01/03/09
I don't want to get old  cfischer83@... | 01/03/09
I do  morwen | 01/05/09
.  cfischer83@... | 01/05/09
Made sense to me.  sjbinaz | 01/06/09
Fischer is just a kid  AzuMao | 01/06/09
Actually, I have a job (probably the only one in this hierarchy)  cfischer83@... | 01/07/09
ROFL  AzuMao | 03/14/09
anyone who needs the 'run' box . .  eggmanbubbagee@... | 01/04/09
Re: 'Run' box  harrisharris | 01/05/09
Funny thing about the "run" situation  Ole Man | 01/05/09
Since you got it completely bass ackwards  rtk | 01/05/09
You make it all too obvious  Ole Man | 01/06/09
Well duh  AzuMao | 01/06/09
re: well duh  rtk | 01/06/09
See what I mean, guys?  AzuMao | 01/07/09
Jesus man, grow up  rtk | 01/07/09
lol  AzuMao | 01/08/09
I'm not in the tech field  marks055@... | 01/04/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jimk_z | 01/05/09
Wow! Talk about lazyness.  Solid Jedi Knight | 01/05/09
Re: Wow! Talk about lazyness.  marcinw | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  AtlantaSteve | 01/05/09
Super Fetch  dprozzo | 01/05/09
ugh  CobraA1 | 01/05/09
This is only a guess on my part.....  James Quinn | 01/05/09
Search on the 10 millionth time...  Takalok | 01/05/09
If you want the XP interface ....  ShadeTree | 01/05/09
Tru Dat!!!  James Quinn | 01/05/09
XP simply sucks less  dnheller | 01/05/09
LOL Well said!  Breetai | 01/05/09
Sales Force!?! My company bought into that and  James Quinn | 01/05/09
a rose is a rose  CaptOska | 01/05/09
Jason Perlow hates everything.  Spiritusindomit@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  lawryll@... | 01/05/09
MS lost the plot and not realise reaction of users?  cyberlawprof | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  hansoff | 01/05/09
Windows XP will be my last Windows  bblackmoor@... | 01/05/09
Not  tim.comes@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  t.kitron@... | 01/05/09
Progress v familiarity  tony@... | 01/05/09
Without change ....  ShadeTree | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  marketmaven | 01/05/09
I Love Warp  checkingher | 01/05/09
run?.  magallanes | 01/05/09
re: run?  BuckoA51 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  douglaskey06@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  MrBeck | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jsjag | 01/05/09
biggest complaint: MS engineers assume everyone works the same way  Jim Johnson | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Update victim | 01/05/09
I'm with Jason...  DB_z | 01/05/09
the article title is sensationalist dribble  Xanderxavier | 01/05/09
It's really neither of those things.  Corsulian | 01/05/09
dribble = drivel (nt)  dprozzo | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  epobirs | 01/05/09
Windows was NEVER "Intuitive"  MichP | 01/05/09
In fairness...  diom1982 | 01/05/09
Amen!  DB_z | 01/05/09
It is easy to find changes.  sjbinaz | 01/06/09
Touche all the way..  TedKraan | 01/07/09
Have you even tried Win7?  de-void | 01/15/09
Classic start menu option  AzuMao | 01/16/09
RE: The interface is not the issue  pdavis@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  richdave | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  gregnickle@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Neil Lynn | 01/05/09
So true...  DB_z | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mjharris73@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  epobirs | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dianecmiles@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  chaz15 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  kencbrown@... | 01/05/09
If I have to learn new I'll learn new that's free  johnnydoe1894 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  gpronger | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  johnson_robert_roy@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  fayeeyaf2002@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  pixule | 01/05/09
Some good points but not the major point  tshanno | 01/05/09
I hope MS gets it right this time  20kwfence | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  SummermoonUK | 01/05/09
Give some old secretary Windows 7 and she'll scream.  softwareFlunky | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  OurManFlint | 01/05/09
There are a lot of people still on XP ...  a foot in both camps | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  epobirs | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Vote! | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  epobirs | 01/05/09
of clicks and keystrokes  seamountie | 01/05/09
Jason's really onto something...  Tr3kkR | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  kris777 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  rparker009 | 01/05/09
More efficient...how?  TechinMN | 01/05/09
Re: .... what?  harrisharris | 01/05/09
You only have to do that once.  sjbinaz | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dobosconsulting | 01/05/09
Windows Dvorak  dch1969 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dch1969 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  faiz553 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  goeller@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  goeller@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  morwen | 01/05/09
Not making the foot fit the shoe  guiduk | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mavr1c | 01/05/09
If you love Windows 7/Vista, you'll hate Windows XP  DarienHawk67 | 01/05/09
Windows XP Pirate Edition is the best Windows version ever...  xunil skcor | 01/05/09
Good Article and some good discussion  sboverie@... | 01/05/09
The point that the VistaFans miss is that...  JohnMcGrew@... | 01/05/09
Is Jason Perlow an Apple Fanboi?  Baer | 01/05/09
Bingo! - nt  frothy2 | 01/05/09
Tin Foil Hat Time  jperlowZDNet Moderator | 01/05/09
Micosoft jerks  Clues | 01/05/09
The problem with that viewpoint...  DarkPhoenixFF4 | 01/05/09
Haha true  Clues | 01/06/09
That's brilliant!  ccrashh2@... | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dunadan0000 | 01/05/09
D??j?? vu  don@... | 01/05/09
You will be assimilated, resistance is futile..  Theo49 | 01/05/09
...  DarkPhoenixFF4 | 01/05/09
New & used, both.  RDrr | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ElRikko | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ebrown1927 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  robin@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mhicks@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  michaelcamp | 01/05/09
Have your Cake and Eat it also...  bruce4ta | 01/05/09
How much they will pay me for using Win7 ?  Gradius2 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  wargammer2005 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Nostredamus | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  spyro17@... | 01/05/09
Keep your eyes on both of Microsoft's hands....  mikifinaz1@... | 01/05/09
And watch your back, too...........  Ole Man | 01/05/09
What ARE you talking about?  de-void | 01/09/09
You seem to be mistaking a moth ball  Ole Man | 01/11/09
But..  AzuMao | 01/12/09
Gosh!  de-void | 01/15/09
And as usual  AzuMao | 01/16/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  CharlesEtheridge@... | 01/05/09
Interesting...  donnie126_2002@... | 01/05/09
Actually  D2 Ultima | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  tjaraujo@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dapted | 01/05/09
Legacy Hardware  de-void | 01/13/09
Re: "Hardware manufacturers, NOT Microsoft, are entirely responsible for wr  AzuMao | 01/14/09
If your only issue is the way it looks,  nancyjones36507@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  tjaraujo@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  tjaraujo@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Harry Hardin | 01/05/09
Insulting the target audience much?  AySz88 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  robcurr | 01/05/09
Windows Key  Cheval | 01/05/09
That would make to much sense, though.  AzuMao | 01/06/09
Just plain wrong.  dgurney | 01/05/09
And  stan@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ramnet@... | 01/05/09
If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7 AND MAC  rednickja@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  derpaul@... | 01/05/09
Changes  de-void | 01/13/09
Okay, so which retarded customer was it  AzuMao | 01/14/09
You got it the wrong way around  de-void | 01/15/09
Yes yes yes, "most people are fine with it" etc etc, but..  AzuMao | 01/16/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  shadfurman | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  wezhind@... | 01/05/09
Old or New?  computerlogic@... | 01/05/09
I have to agree  melekali | 01/05/09
Who is Really Using Windows 7 Beta Now?  DarienHawk67 | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  fd.villa | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  atari8bit@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  otj1@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  williamacole@... | 01/05/09
If you love XP, its probably time for you to get upgraded  balajionline | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate MS-DOS...err!!! Windows 7  skylight | 01/05/09
As long as I have option to switch to Classic style, I will surely get Win7  jshewsbury@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  brad.kruse@... | 01/05/09
As An Open-Minded XP User - I Chose OSX and Ubuntu  drprod@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Spinner912 | 01/05/09
kind of funny how MS is killing itself this way  TedKraan | 01/05/09
Windows continues its trend of hiding stuff.  Emilio_z | 01/05/09
I agree - The better mousetrap must actually be better  guiduk | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  YaBaby | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  docotis@... | 01/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  AngelaE8654 | 01/05/09
Still no valid argument for not having a "Classic" mode option  PedroTabs | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Kostaghus | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Kostaghus | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  john.dailey@... | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Kostaghus | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  bbwalters@... | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  urscrewed | 01/06/09
Now you can change your opinion  dprozzo | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Mike (not Cox) | 01/06/09
Dockers are dated?  thomaskkang@... | 01/06/09
I hope Microsoft open sources it  thomaskkang@... | 01/06/09
4 months testing and not convinced yet...  brahmadomtao@... | 01/06/09
Posted in wrong location (NT)  dprozzo | 01/06/09
What company has the money???  Christian_<>< | 01/06/09
Most companies subscribe ...  de-void | 01/13/09
Even if you can discount, in the long term, the cost of the  AzuMao | 01/14/09
you do realize  rtk | 01/14/09
You must have missed the qualifier at the end of my post.  AzuMao | 01/15/09
The cost of moving between Windows releases ...  de-void | 01/15/09
Well duh  AzuMao | 01/15/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  SnoBoy | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Hogleg | 01/06/09
Old Timer!!!!!!!!  mariotrz | 01/06/09
You are a disgrace to REAL "old timers"  Ole Man | 01/11/09
Re: "MS is THAT big because they MUST have done something right!"  AzuMao | 01/12/09
Right...  TedKraan | 01/16/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  BernieLyons | 01/06/09
If you?re an XP veteran, take some time to learn why the new interface was  will.doak@... | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  thewhiteknight | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Yellowbird7 | 01/06/09
So what if you hate Windows XP?  ShineOn | 01/06/09
The thing is that in XP  AzuMao | 01/07/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  venug | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  venug | 01/06/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  nunyac | 01/06/09
That would make to much sense, though. Remember, this is MS..  AzuMao | 01/07/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  sjbinaz | 01/06/09
RE: Screw This  Enorton42@... | 01/06/09
Unfortunate Title  Drakaran | 01/07/09
why it's an unfortunate title  Drakaran | 01/07/09
Yes happy  de-void | 01/13/09
No.  AzuMao | 01/14/09
Ermmmm ... YES!  de-void | 01/15/09
No.  AzuMao | 03/14/09
So GM did a study and found that most people don't use the turn signals  WiredGuy | 01/07/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ib130258 | 01/07/09
Do you think even at the beginning that they professionals knew everything?  ladyjet@... | 01/07/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  ladyjet@... | 01/07/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  christopher.richardson@... | 01/07/09
... but I hate Windows Search itself  mcicogni | 01/07/09
Hit the nail on the head.  AzuMao | 01/08/09
Of course you do.  rtk | 01/08/09
Then I'm not a cynic.  AzuMao | 03/14/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  boloelcholo | 01/07/09
Great advice  de-void | 01/13/09
That's the whole problem  AzuMao | 01/14/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  k1958 | 01/07/09
There's learning curves ...  de-void | 01/13/09
Except that  AzuMao | 01/14/09
Utter nonsense  de-void | 01/15/09
Pretty much ANY  AzuMao | 03/14/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  whizxp | 01/08/09
YOU GUYS ARE GETTING VERY OLD!!!!  jorgebraga | 01/08/09
The argument isn't about the skin.  AzuMao | 01/31/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  dmlambo | 01/08/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Mihail.a.dimitrov@... | 01/08/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  whizxp | 01/08/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  kiristo | 01/08/09
Common misconceptions  gene_fitz@... | 01/10/09
On the contrary  AzuMao | 01/11/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  techrepublic@... | 01/19/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jimdrvr99@... | 01/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  jvraz@... | 01/27/09
You don't have to...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 01/27/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  magusat999@... | 01/30/09
There wouldn't have been such a backlash  AzuMao | 01/31/09
Keep on movin' on  jimcbb@... | 02/20/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  marzolian@... | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  DXMage | 02/23/09
XP (and Vista) already give a blank desktop on fresh install...  bedekk@... | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mwagner@... | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mfjohnson51@... | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Pyrotech_z | 02/23/09
Get Over It  gbentley@... | 02/23/09
Fail  AzuMao | 02/24/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  gburk | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  CharlesEtheridge@... | 02/23/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  pcss@... | 02/23/09
Well at least  credmedia | 02/24/09
Why can't I search by file size or date?  Marc Erickson | 02/25/09
You can  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 02/26/09
What I *REALLY* Want to know...  madrucke@... | 02/26/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Aeralys | 03/11/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  JCCCCC@... | 03/19/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Ez_Customs | 04/05/09
The thing is..  AzuMao | 04/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Ez_Customs | 04/05/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  wwgorman | 04/27/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  atraveler2 | 04/27/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  graemefl | 05/09/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  RowleyJ | 05/13/09
You've completely missed the point  beededea | 07/15/09
Yet another of a long list of things that Windows has always done wrong  AzuMao | 07/16/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mishava9l@... | 08/26/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  hsvandrew88 | 09/24/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  mariesk | 10/26/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  atomicat | 11/09/09
What they don't tell you!!!!!!!!!  BRS | 11/17/09
Huh?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 11/17/09
Why would you want Outlook Express!!!!!!!!!  AzuMao | 11/18/09
RE: If you love Windows XP, you'll hate Windows 7  Muslickz | 11/17/09

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