You are a GENIUS!
bdlang@... | 04/20/09
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No, he is a M$ SLAVE!
urbandk | 04/21/09
|
 
don't make yourself look stupid
jk_10 | 04/22/09
|

Agree!
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

Minimal Windows
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|
Shareware style limit
Alan Smithie | 04/20/09
|

Not to mention Linux spin doctors
James A Bailey | 04/20/09
|
 
Yep that too
Alan Smithie | 04/20/09
|
 
Agree
crazlunatic | 04/20/09
|
 
Which would be anti-competitive and illegal.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
  
Why?
de-void | 04/21/09
|
   
Maybe
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
   
What's wrong with this picture is..
mike@... | 04/24/09
|
 
I wouldn't worry about Linux spin doctors
dseward | 04/21/09
|
  
hardware=os?
over2sd | 04/21/09
|
   
Artificial Limits Not Necessary
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
    
"Precious little Linux software..."
CassidyJames | 04/21/09
|
     
How about commercial software?
dseward | 04/22/09
|
    
HUH?
tech_ed@... | 04/22/09
|
     
You are either a liar or an idiot
tracy anne | 04/23/09
|
     
Who's an idiot? Ed?
mike@... | 04/24/09
|
    
Dependency hell? Not lately.
over2sd | 04/23/09
|
  
Windows Netbook vs XP
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|

Pay now or pay later
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
 
It is all about the OEMs
mikefarinha | 04/20/09
|
  
Here
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
   
My point exactly.
mikefarinha | 04/20/09
|
    
"At the request"
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
     
Microsoft's customers are largely OEM's, not you and I
de-void | 04/21/09
|
    
Yeah, because customers always request
akulkis | 04/21/09
|
     
You have proof to the contrary?
mikefarinha | 04/21/09
|
   
So MS has a new business model for unwitting consumers.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
    
Again, this is something you should take up with your OEM
de-void | 04/21/09
|
    
Trry this
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
  
"It is all about the OEMs"
readwryt@... | 04/21/09
|
   
Dunno
de-void | 04/21/09
|
  
Specific hardware:
notsofast | 04/21/09
|
   
And if you bought a notebook/desktop running Starter Edition ...
de-void | 04/21/09
|
    
I agree
dseward | 04/22/09
|
  
Dev Time
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|
 
Pay now JUST TO pay again later. That's the proprietary mantra.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
  
Wow!
mike@... | 04/24/09
|
 
M$ Cash Grab
cafehunk | 04/21/09
|
  
Wrong
Ed Bott | 04/22/09
|
   
Hackerbait
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|
  
You put too much stock into Win7SE
mikefarinha | 04/22/09
|
  
You Should read my above post
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
  
So people are supposed to keep quiet?
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
|
   
No one wants you to keep quiet
dseward | 04/22/09
|
    
But none are pre-installed
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
|
   
If you don't like Windows, that fine. But...
mike@... | 04/24/09
|
    
I don't like Winbloze and that's fine...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/25/09
|
 
anticonsumer
tcsenter | 04/22/09
|
  
Brilliant
Ed Bott | 04/22/09
|
  
Carfully aimed
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|

"unscrupulous retail salesmen"
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
 
Really?
de-void | 04/21/09
|

Choice
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
James A Bailey | 04/20/09
|

Limits of testing
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
 
Limits of Testing
Eleutherios | 04/21/09
|
  
Perhaps
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
  
for $15 I'd try OSX
mswift@... | 04/21/09
|
  
As a Mac user
Mectron | 04/21/09
|
  
I'm not Ed. But
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
  
Crippleed Netbook
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|

One widget = one application? Not too likely...
csjewell | 04/20/09
|
 
Who knows? That'll be MS's call, not yours.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
spruce | 04/20/09
|

It's what I do
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
 
Yup
Tim Patterson | 04/20/09
|
  
Re: Yup
Col Mustard | 04/20/09
|
   
Maybe I'll try
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
    
You'll end up in tears Ed.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
     
Sigh
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
    
Do it!
CassidyJames | 04/21/09
|
 
Uh huh...
akulkis | 04/21/09
|
  
None
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
   
Libel...
Average-IT-Guy | 04/21/09
|
   
Reply
Eleutherios | 04/21/09
|
  
Boy, do I miss usenet...
clfitz | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
Col Mustard | 04/20/09
|

Anytime Upgrade done right
LiquidLearner | 04/20/09
|
 
But will they charge...
msalzberg | 04/21/09
|
Frankly, it's not worth it.
CobraA1 | 04/20/09
|

You can't get Win7 Home Basic in the US or Europe
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
 
Forgive me if I don't confuse anecdotes with statistics.
CobraA1 | 04/20/09
|
  
And your statistics are where?
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
  
well I'm not really impressed that your not really impressed... ha!
shadfurman | 04/20/09
|
  
A MACBOT here...
t5j1sr | 04/21/09
|
  
Perfect example of the targeted user
Frankmjr | 04/21/09
|
 
You CAN get Home Basic in Europe
molumen | 04/21/09
|
  
Vista Home Basic vs. Windows 7 Basic
dseward | 04/21/09
|
 
will a legitimate Basic run in the US??
pikeman666 | 05/12/09
|
  
Should be no problem
Ed Bott | 05/13/09
|

I have to agree
Lerianis | 04/21/09
|
 
Appalling Insensitivity
aliahyp | 04/21/09
|
 
I'll Tell You What...
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
 
How
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

Anyone who tries...
fairportfan | 04/21/09
|

What I have open now
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|
Program limit is just plain foolish.
ye | 04/20/09
|

Then go tell your OEM of choice
de-void | 04/20/09
|
 
My understanding is they requested a lower cost version.
ye | 04/20/09
|
  
So, then...
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
   
You Weren't Asking Me, But
DannyO_0x98 | 04/20/09
|
    
What Are The Odds...
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
   
That's an easy question.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|
    
Ed walked straight into that one
Alan Smithie | 04/21/09
|
     
Gosh, you're so clever.
de-void | 04/21/09
|
     
De-void, keep your hair on
Alan Smithie | 04/22/09
|
   
I don't have an answer to the question.
ye | 04/21/09
|
   
My belief is.....
linux for me | 04/21/09
|
   
Does it cost more to limit to three
websquad | 04/21/09
|
    
you weren't talking to me but
Alan Burns | 04/21/09
|
   
Microsoft has to play like everyone else ...
MisterMiester | 04/21/09
|
    
MS did that.
de-void | 04/21/09
|
   
Removed features?
mdsock@... | 04/21/09
|
    
OEMs did not ask for the limitation
dseward | 04/22/09
|
   
What is the advantage over XP?
F. Mcsimmons | 04/21/09
|
    
I've tried Win7 and it seems better than XP
billfranke@... | 04/25/09
|
   
Features to remove for lower cost
chromeronin | 04/27/09
|
  
a guess....
Badgered | 04/22/09
|
  
Mr. Ye
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

Indeed, and yet...
DannyO_0x98 | 04/20/09
|
 
With the shoe lace
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

I think its fantastic!
shadfurman | 04/20/09
|
 
Commenter has even less $$$ than brains.
akulkis | 04/21/09
|
  
But It's His CHOICE (NT)
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

I agree with you here, its just a "buy me twice" contrick
deaf_e_kate | 04/21/09
|
 
Development isn't free. Deployment is.
LeoD | 04/21/09
|
 
There's no con involved
de-void | 04/21/09
|

The mobile industry is going towards simpler tarrifs.
Amelioration | 04/21/09
|

Program limit is not foolish...
Wendel | 04/21/09
|

Program limit is just plain foolish.
molumen | 04/21/09
|

Exactly right
Lerianis | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
techfix | 04/20/09
|
user login and remote connections ?
bksgs1 | 04/20/09
|

No limits
Ed Bott | 04/20/09
|
Any color you want, as long as it's black
davidleecpowell@... | 04/20/09
|

your phylosophy of economics is flawed...
shadfurman | 04/20/09
|

Mine Honor
SirWeej | 04/21/09
|

That Does Not Compute
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
use lotus symphony ...
bksgs1 | 04/20/09
|
Windows 7 SE - PERFECT for virtualization
Roger Ramjet | 04/20/09
|

I wonder if the licence allows it
LeoD | 04/21/09
|
 
Probably not
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
  
VM...
PedroTabs | 04/21/09
|
   
Still need licensing
Frankmjr | 04/21/09
|
    
I'd be curious to see if Wubi would work...
johnf76@... | 04/22/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
djwilde | 04/21/09
|

Comfortable?
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|
 
Then
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
RTTECH82 | 04/21/09
|
@Ed: It's not accurate to say that "Program installers run ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 04/21/09
|

Windows Installer
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
 
"oddball third-party installer"
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 04/21/09
|
  
Also ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 04/21/09
|
  
VMWare Tools is a special beast
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
   
Woah there ...
Adrian Kingsley-Hughes | 04/21/09
|
    
You're right
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
    
thx ...
n0neXn0ne | 04/22/09
|
     
No beating required
Ed Bott | 04/22/09
|

3 app limit shouldn't affect installer
cliffdunaway | 04/26/09
|
Who's running MS???
MSBassSinger | 04/21/09
|
Screw you Microsoft, I'm a programmer
possibilistic | 04/21/09
|

Uh, dude?
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
 
He didn't say he was forced.
nizuse | 04/21/09
|
  
Ed's right
Oreamnos_americanus | 04/21/09
|
   
Leave someone the freedom
nizuse | 04/21/09
|
   
Too Much Java Today
tem62 | 04/21/09
|

I'm not Microsoft But,
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
Very cool
quasilou | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
Billybob115 | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
nessrapp | 04/21/09
|
How does it know what to count?
davidr69 | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
Juanne | 04/21/09
|
English
chaiguy1337 | 04/21/09
|

English
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|

Yes, but...
fairportfan | 04/21/09
|
Thank you, this has been very helpful. (nt)
caspianhiro | 04/21/09
|
It's sad.
Mitch 74 | 04/21/09
|

Not that sad.
drobinow | 04/21/09
|

Don't be sad
dseward | 04/21/09
|
 
DVD Player.
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|

Yep!
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|

What is Pidgin? N/T
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
 
Pidgin Info:
over2sd | 04/23/09
|
This is just marketing and preventing a lawsuit
rarsa | 04/21/09
|

Maybe An EU Version Nt
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
dseward | 04/21/09
|
Most are missing the picture ...
et3 | 04/21/09
|

Great points, but you missed a real bonus
dseward | 04/21/09
|
 
You make a good point ...
et3 | 04/21/09
|
 
Now THAT I would agree with, EXCEPT
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/21/09
|

No, you're missing the point
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/21/09
|
 
You probably will not buy win7SE
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
  
I won't buy it with that limitaion
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
|
   
...
Badgered | 04/22/09
|
    
Wonder away all you want
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
|
     
Ok, I will...
Badgered | 04/23/09
|
     
...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/24/09
|
 
I'm afraid you weren't even paying attention
dseward | 04/22/09
|
  
Oh yes I was
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/22/09
|
   
Fair argument
dseward | 04/22/09
|
    
I think it's valid
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
|
   
No, you weren't
tcsenter | 04/23/09
|
    
Yes, I was...
hasta la Vista, bah-bie | 04/23/09
|
Stop the ill conceived drama - Starter Edition is not available in the US!
Wyer | 04/21/09
|

Wrong, wrong, wrong
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
tem62 | 04/21/09
|

Odd...
DNSB | 04/21/09
|
 
Specifics
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
Who uses multiple open apps?
DonG43 | 04/21/09
|

Me.
de-void | 04/21/09
|

Ditto
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
rasputins_dog | 04/21/09
|

Not true
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
Did I miss something?
dseward | 04/21/09
|

you missed something
rasputins_dog | 04/21/09
|
 
Still missing
dseward | 04/21/09
|
  
Careful now ...
de-void | 04/21/09
|
  
He missed Everything
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

Spot On
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !
RachelFaith | 04/21/09
|

And will cost ?
Oreamnos_americanus | 04/21/09
|

Can't wait for the $250 Apple netbook
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
gwconnery@... | 04/21/09
|

Thanks for the pointer
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
 
I agree, Ed, You do very good work
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|

It works!
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
Clarification please...
Badgered | 04/21/09
|

Additional information
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
 
Ahh, gotcha... thanks. (NT)
Badgered | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|

Vista\Win7 doesn't allow
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
upwardmultimedia | 04/21/09
|
Ed, What kind of System did you test this on?
padapa | 04/21/09
|

"An ultraportable Sony notebook"
Ed Bott | 04/21/09
|
 
Sony (Dual Core) Notebook
padapa | 04/21/09
|
ANOTHER, reason to go Linux...
mikifinaz1@... | 04/21/09
|
Geez, you dont SUPPOSE
Crestview | 04/21/09
|
[Withdrawn]
tem62 | 04/21/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
dseward | 04/21/09
|

Ha ha! You are totally right. (nt)
Tesla82 | 04/21/09
|
M$ Brainwashed Edition
emenau | 04/21/09
|

It's a fanboy...it's a troll...it's...
jzhaohd | 04/21/09
|
3 Apps Today; 0 Tomorrow
trentreviso | 04/21/09
|

re: 3 Apps Today; 0 Tomorrow
n0neXn0ne | 04/22/09
|

We Heard you, Yea, Yea, Yea
windozefreak | 04/22/09
|
So Windows 7 is not ready
GOTBO | 04/22/09
|

Wrong
Ed Bott | 04/22/09
|
!!! apple or linux fanboys, go away please!
jk_10 | 04/22/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
pgit | 04/22/09
|
3 is a bit too tight
Narg | 04/22/09
|

re:3 is a bit too tight
Badgered | 04/22/09
|
It is just a small form factor laptop.
TripleII | 04/22/09
|

It's the usage pattern, not just the hardware
Ed Bott | 04/23/09
|
Something else, how do you spin this.
TripleII | 04/22/09
|

Lawyers working on that now
Ed Bott | 04/23/09
|
 
Point Taken, still a very fine line.
TripleII | 04/23/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
DonBurnett | 04/23/09
|

Clarification
DonBurnett | 04/23/09
|

It's up to the OEMs, Don
Ed Bott | 04/23/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
surjagain | 04/23/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
athaki | 04/24/09
|
No need to Live with the limits of Windows 7
tracy anne | 04/24/09
|
Windows 7 Starter = Demo, Make Windows 7 Netbook Edition
ngtwolf | 04/25/09
|
How does performance compare?
AdamzP | 04/27/09
|
Who else actually tried it.
fiendishlyclever | 05/19/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
chrcoluk | 06/17/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
korayem | 08/06/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition
zzzxtreme | 10/20/09
|
RE: Living with the limits of Windows 7 Starter Edition *NEW*
umair.arshad | 11/25/09
|