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May 4th, 2006

A fresh look at Vista's User Account Control

Posted by Ed Bott @ 8:30 am

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To verify the permissions on your folder full of data files, right-click the folder icon, choose Properties, and click the Security tab:


Credit: Ed Bott

Windows sees that the Users group has Read permissions only on that folder, and it has no way of knowing that you created the folder on another computer and that you should be listed as the Creator-Owner of all those files. It applies permissions based on the standard user process token and tells you if you want to change anything you’ll need to supply your Administrator credentials.

How do you work around this annoyance? You have two choices:

  • You can take ownership of the files on the external drive. That gives your account Full Control permissions at all times and prevents other users on the same computer from changing the files unless they do so as an administrator.
  • Or you can change the permissions assigned to the Users group so that members of that group have Write or Full Control permissions. That solution allows everyone with a user account on the computer to manage files without having to OK a consent dialog box.

The problem with both of these solutions is that they require a level of technical knowledge that the overwhelming majority of Windows users simply don’t have. Using the default settings of Windows XP, in fact, file permissions are completely hidden. This poses a potential support nightmare for Microsoft, which will have to deal with frustrated users who just want to get to their data files. Many of them, in fact, will simply choose to turn off UAC as a way of coping with the complexity by eliminating it.

In the final installment of this series, I offer some possible solutions that Microsoft can implement to strike the proper balance between security and convenience and prevent a full-scale mutiny when Vista ships.

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  • Most Recent of 21 Talkback(s)
RE: A fresh look at Vista's User Account Control
I hate the file permissions thing. I disabled UAC, but I still sometimes run into this crap where I have to give full control to the user group just to delete a file I no longer want. I had to do this... (Read the rest)
Posted by: OmegaWolf747 Posted on: 11/01/07 You are currently: a Guest | | Terms of Use
Excellent article  zzz1234567890 | 05/04/06
Makes sense to me  frank_s | 05/04/06
Catch-22  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/04/06
That problem isn't limited to the Windows environment.  maldain | 05/05/06
Nice irony here  troutmaskreplica | 05/04/06
Absolutely true  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/04/06
If a user doesn't know how to properly....  JoeMama_z | 05/04/06
In other words...  Tranman123 | 05/05/06
Yes, what's your point?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/05/06
related OS X experience  dlmeyer@... | 05/05/06
It does sound familiar  jim-cacy@... | 05/05/06
Creating Passionate Users  grillin_man | 05/05/06
About Bloody Time  eliwap | 05/05/06
Actually...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 05/05/06
Windows is finally catching up with Unix  davidr69 | 05/05/06
Yes and no...  CJames_z | 05/05/06
No, they haven't  georgeou | 05/05/06
No They Haven't George  Xwindowsjunkie | 05/07/06
No, you completely missed the point  georgeou | 05/07/06
Perhaps it can be tuned?  WiredGuy | 05/08/06
RE: A fresh look at Vista's User Account Control  OmegaWolf747 | 11/01/07

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