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September 13th, 2006

Apple takes back the copycat title

Posted by Ed Bott @ 10:09 am

Categories: Apple, Hardware, Windows Vista

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Apparently, every copy of Mac OS X comes with a Cognitive Dissonance add-in. This feature allows Mac cultists to loudly accuse Microsoft of ripping off features when it’s convenient, and to blindly miss the ripoffs that go the other way.

Case in point: Yesterday’s far-from-earthshattering Apple announcements.

Over at the Cult of Mac blog, Leander Kahney gushes over Apple’s new Cover Flow interface, which allows you to browse your music collection using pictures of album covers.

Just as it’s easy to see quickly what the jukebox has to offer, it’s now easy to see what’s been hiding in your ever-growing digital music collection.

As Jobs mentioned twice during his Tuesday presentation, a visual navigation scheme makes a big music collection much more accessible.

"It’s a wonderful way to rediscover your music library," he said.

Huh. Anyone who owns a copy of Windows XP Media Center Edition or is using the Windows Vista beta doesn’t need to rediscover anything. Browsing by album cover has been part of the Media Center interface for four years. (See the Vista version for yourself here and here and here.) In fact, Media Center PCs support TV tuners that allow you to browse recorded TV using thumbnails as well.

And then there’s iTV, which my colleague David Berlind is all ga-ga about.

iTV will have integrated wireless networking, USB, wired Ethernet, an High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI), and the standard  component video and analog audio interfaces that any consumer video product is expected to have. Somewhat reminiscent of the the way Sonos’ gear works with music, iTV can apparently take "delivery" of its content (eg: an iTMS purchased song) from an iTunes-enabled PC via the wired or wireless network and its FrontRow-esque 3D user interface can be controlled with a remote control (so, iTV is sort of a set-top box on steroids).

The iTV doesn’t appear to have a tuner (not that it needs one). In my home setup, provided I wanted to use it, I’d just connect the iTV to the receiver  (more like a networking hub these days given all the sources connected to it) at the heart of my home entertainment setup in my family room. Or, you can connect it directly to a big flat panel.

So, let me get this straight. I can pay $300 for a device that allows me to play content from a computer located elsewhere in the house. Cool! It’s about time someone invented a "media extender" like this.

Oh. Wait. Microsoft already did. I have three Media Center extenders in this house, two first-generation models and an Xbox 360. On any of these extenders, I can play my entire music collection (browsing it by album cover) through my home theater system using a wired or wireless connection to my Media Center computer. But unlike Apple’s device (which won’t be available until January 2007) the Xbox 360 also streams live or recorded TV and downloaded high-definition content. It plays games and DVDs in full 5.1 surround sound. And in January, when Vista ships, I’ll be able to get a CableCARD-equipped Media Center that will stream HDTV programs over the network to my Xbox 360 with no extra charges.

So, will someone please tell me why I want to replace my Xbox 360 with an Apple-branded device that only plays tunes from one music store, allows me to pay $15 for a movie encoded at 640 by 480 that looks like crap on my widescreen HDTV, and is unable to record or stream TV programming?

It must take a lot of Kool-Aid to understand what a great deal that is.

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Dim history  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/13/06
It's not file browsing  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
They don't use files?  Yagotta B. Kidding | 09/13/06
The tunes are stored in files  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
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In the living room?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
One additional thought  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Gee..  LazLong | 09/13/06
You shouldn't have went there.  ShadeTree | 09/13/06
I was watching TV on Windows in 1998  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Try 1993 on the Mac baby!  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Ha ha ha  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
TV's and Computers  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
Yes, and your point is?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Media Center  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
I'll type very slowly, Harry  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Thanks  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
the media center has been RESOUNDINGLY rejected by the public...  doctorSpoc | 09/13/06
Media Center PC's have not been rejected ....  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
and it will sit in your office... with iTunes installed...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
RE: doctorspoc  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Hey i must be winning...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
in reponse the the main post here.. think On Demand Ed  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Duh , can I use Windows MCE on a Mac or Linux ?  Intellihence | 09/18/06
Moving the goalposts  tic swayback | 09/13/06
I did that too.....  LazLong | 09/13/06
URL fixed here  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Payback  tic swayback | 09/13/06
And the parallel is?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Why ignore one and sneer at the other  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Not invented, implemented  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Wow, contradict yourself much?  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Some things matter more than others  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Oooh, pretty  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Tic, just to make sure I understand...  brble | 09/13/06
Missing the point  tic swayback | 09/14/06
it DOESN'T deliver the most important things that "iTV" does...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Monopolies are good?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/14/06
no i'm saying your post was incorrect and in a big way..  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Yes  frgough | 09/14/06
Actually . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/14/06
Ohh, since about Win95  mdemuth | 09/13/06
Included with Windows?  tic swayback | 09/13/06
This is idiotic  glocks out | 09/13/06
Why not?  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Just using Ed's criteria  tic swayback | 09/14/06
These were available for Mac, too  MacGeek2121 | 09/14/06
Let's go back further  xuniL_z | 09/22/06
Mission Accomplished  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
I would call that sour grapes or ...  ShadeTree | 09/13/06
Tell you what...  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
Credit where credit is due  glocks out | 09/13/06
Can't leave out the Early Egyptians . . .nt  jlhenry62 | 09/14/06
Just curious....  brble | 09/13/06
Royalty  Harry Bardal | 09/13/06
Let's see what happens when iTV takes off next year ?  Intellihence | 09/18/06
It should also not be lost on you that ....  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Point well taken  opensourcepro | 09/13/06
Try checking out the Insignia MP3 player at ...  ShadeTree | 09/13/06
Quite frankly, my dear Shadey . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/14/06
Does the insignia have it's own music store or software that will run  Intellihence | 09/18/06
browsing music by album cover?  tooner440 | 09/13/06
Yes indeed  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
WMP 11 beta . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/14/06
You comparing cover with media center..  yatheen Alluri | 09/13/06
You need to go look at a Media Center PC  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
She never claimed that Apple inveented it .  Intellihence | 09/18/06
You need to go look at a Media Center PC  YaBaby | 09/20/06
Re: Apple takes back the copycat title  none none | 09/13/06
You're confused  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
I dunno about that, Ed  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
32 bit Vista will not handle HD DVD out of box but  Michael L Hereid Sr | 09/18/06
Browsing by cover  tombalablomba | 09/13/06
Look at the screen shots  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
Ed, i'm not confused  tombalablomba | 09/13/06
who can forget the cover of the first (and I think only) Blind Faith album?  103moke | 09/24/06
It's cute  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Not one at a time  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
I know how it works  tic swayback | 09/13/06
Works great in the living room  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
I don't listen to music through my television  tic swayback | 09/14/06
I don't either.  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
It's not done by the majority  tic swayback | 09/14/06
Most people didn't have color TV's when ...  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Oh, I think it will happen, eventually...  tic swayback | 09/14/06
Doesn't take much to be awarded the title  Richard Flude | 09/13/06
Wrong wrong wrong  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
More of the same  Richard Flude | 09/13/06
More answers  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/13/06
The potential is enormous  Richard Flude | 09/13/06
Getting back to Ed's point which you have managed ....  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Good points;-)  Richard Flude | 09/14/06
re: Getting back to Ed's point which you have managed ....  shidokan@... | 09/15/06
HDMI 1.3 is important  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
Welcome to Our World, Ed!  mattjumbo | 09/13/06
Welcome to Our World, Ed!  mattjumbo | 09/13/06
Its not who stole what  MAC ONe | 09/13/06
not a clue...  doctorSpoc | 09/13/06
why oh why  MAC ONe | 09/13/06
The number of computers sold with MCE ...  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
40 million over how many years?  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
You are right. The numbers do sound ...  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
8 million for one vendor is not bad..  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
it is still ....  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
ever heard of the word sarcasm??  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Ever heard the words your wrong!  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
your funny..  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Why on earth would you want  MAC ONe | 09/14/06
My PC connects to my TV  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/14/06
Ed... what's your feeling...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Spoc, that's a good question  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/15/06
The numbers get even worse.  Zoraster | 09/14/06
Stop the presses.  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
Media Centers have had 5 years to prove themselves...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Why so defensive?  Zoraster | 09/14/06
Even still...  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
Thank you!  ladyirol | 09/17/06
Not even the name's original...!  GeoNorth | 09/14/06
Guess you missed Jobs' speech  tic swayback | 09/14/06
So your saying they aren't even innovative ...  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
No, I'm saying they have their priorities in order  tic swayback | 09/14/06
Typical Straw-man  tangent001 | 09/14/06
Who are you replying to?  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/14/06
To clarify  tangent001 | 09/14/06
re: "I know of NO Mac user that has made either of these claims, "  jlhenry62 | 09/15/06
Go back and re-read Harry's posts  tic swayback | 09/16/06
I didn't miss it . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/16/06
Not really fair, Ed  RocketEater | 09/14/06
Ed didn't compare it to a Media Center PC.  ShadeTree | 09/14/06
ok, so it's a more focused product than and xbox 360 then...  doctorSpoc | 09/14/06
Um...  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/21/06
some corrections  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
You're confused  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/17/06
I'll find it  MacKeyser | 09/17/06
I'll find it  MacKeyser | 09/17/06
It is a different approach...  ladyirol | 09/17/06
Another perspective, but one that "gets it"...  MacCanuck | 09/14/06
MS takes the crown right back  tic swayback | 09/14/06
More promises? Too little, too late?  ladyirol | 09/17/06
Apple does not copycat this is why  petey0wnsU | 09/14/06
WELL SAID  MAC ONe | 09/14/06
Sheeeesh . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/15/06
Stole?  tic swayback | 09/16/06
I was just using his language . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/16/06
I was just using his language . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/16/06
I was just using his language . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/16/06
Remember over in the other thread . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/16/06
not correct  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
the thought of using a MCE PC just does not  MAC ONe | 09/14/06
my cable provider offers an HD PVR  doctorSpoc | 09/15/06
the new TiVo Series 3 records HD too but...  doctorSpoc | 09/15/06
Don't forget the monthly fees  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/15/06
DirecTV offers . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/15/06
I have an HD DirecTiVo  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/15/06
I hear that . . .  jlhenry62 | 09/15/06
Oh cable card how about this  Michael L Hereid Sr | 09/18/06
Yes, that's the one  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/19/06
uh, yes and no  MacKeyser | 09/16/06
Platform dependence  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/17/06
I addressed that  MacKeyser | 09/17/06
Again Apples and ?...  ladyirol | 09/17/06
well..  MacKeyser | 09/17/06
PDF support in windows  willpd13 | 09/20/06
He's Speculatively trolling, don't get your ire up  Maccelerate | 09/21/06
You need to read more carefully  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/21/06
original not successful  bayoubengal0 | 09/21/06
Simply Not Ready Until Now  lightandshadow | 09/22/06
Nice Kool-Aid!  Ed BottZDNet Moderator | 09/24/06
I guess you're confused to?  lightandshadow | 09/29/06
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