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March 25th, 2008

Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop

Posted by Ed Burnette @ 11:08 am

Categories: Apple, General, Microsoft, Web Browsers

Tags: Apple Inc., Microsoft Corp., Web Browser, Plug-in, Web Browsers, Desktops, Internet, Hardware, Ed Burnette

Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktopIn his article titled “Dear desktop, welcome back“, Ryan Stewart claims that “the desktop is exciting again in a number of interesting ways.” Unfortunately (for Microsoft, Apple, and others with a vested interest in the desktop), most of his points actually lead me to the opposite conclusion. For example, Ryan writes:

This dustup between Safari and Mozilla? It’s over a desktop application! Why? Because the desktop is important. It’s the most valuable place. From there you can control the search path, you can control the experience and you can keep rolling out updates. It’s easy to leave a webpage and never come back. But uninstalling a desktop application? A browser? That’s harder.

Installing and uninstalling and maintaining anything on the desktop (be it Windows or Mac or Linux) is hard, and more and more people won’t bother. Why? Because there’s a better alternative. Another way of saying this is, the browser is the new desktop.

Case in point: My wife has been complaining lately that her “computer was slow”. She’s running Windows XP on a Dell machine, so first I checked out the usual suspects. Viruses? Nope. Spyware? None found. Crapware? Already gone, from the day after we got the machine. Startup programs?The browser is the new desktop. Removed a few but it didn’t help. I started the task manager, but saw nothing suspicious. No processes using CPU or disk I/O. But still, she said it was slow.

So I watched what she was doing. She brought up the browser to check web-based mail on gmail.com. She used google.com to search for something for our kid’s classwork. She went to cartoonnetwork.com and webkins.com to play games with the kids. And so forth. Notice a pattern here? Everything was in the browser. It was the *browser* that was slow, not the computer. In her mind, the browser was the computer.

The problem turned out to be too many plug-ins in the browser. She had a Upromise plug-in, a Google toolbar plug-in, a Real media plug-in, and a bunch of other plug-ins I didn’t even recognize. I turned it all off, restarted the browser, and poof, “the computer” was several times faster. Cue fanfare.

My point is that even with the technical limitations under the covers–things like browser incompatibilities, offline storage, JavaScript memory leaks, etc. (all those things that developers pull their hair out about)–the convenience of internet-delivered applications is just so compelling that all other issues are falling by the wayside. In the span of a few years, we’ve witnessed a major paradigm shift in the way computing is surfaced to users.

Sure, there will always be some niche applications that need an old-fashioned desktop. Right now, those include 3D interactive games, graphic design tools, software development tools, and some office productivity tools. As web technology gets more and more powerful, though, expect those to slip more and more into obscurity as internetworked alternatives replace them.

We’ve already passed the tipping point, Ryan. We’re not welcoming the desktop back; we’re saying our goodbyes.

Ed BurnetteEd Burnette is a professional developer and author of several articles and books about computing including Hello, Android: Introducing Google's Mobile Development Platform, 2nd Edition. For disclosure of Ed's industry affiliations, click here or to view his full profile click here.

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...  Linux User 147560 | 03/25/08
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re: Depends  deaf_e_kate | 03/26/08
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RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Bmalcolm | 03/25/08
Linked how?  glocks out | 03/25/08
Yeah, right.  Carrion | 03/25/08
Good Point  Marcos El Malo | 03/25/08
Sure, mainframes still exist, but they are no longer the dominant platform  DonnieBoy | 03/25/08
Not the point  Carrion | 03/25/08
Yes, it is the point. Mainframes have largely disapeared, and so will  DonnieBoy | 03/25/08
It wasn't the point I was trying to make...  Carrion | 03/25/08
That is STILL no argument against what he said. The fact that SOME tech  DonnieBoy | 03/25/08
Yes, it is...  btljooz | 03/26/08
OOPS! ^^^Above^^^ post in WRONG place. blush  btljooz | 03/26/08
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Sorry Donnieboy,  Update victim | 03/26/08
Donnie boy is nutz  mydasx | 03/26/08
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RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  theoxygenthief | 03/25/08
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Your commenators are wrong  glocks out | 03/25/08
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Java blows!  btljooz | 03/26/08
All this VM talk couldn't sell me an Apple for six grand. Looks like Media.  rtirman37@... | 03/26/08
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RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  theoxygenthief | 03/25/08
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i disagree  theoxygenthief | 03/26/08
Work vs. home  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/25/08
I disagree  theoxygenthief | 03/26/08
Clarification  theoxygenthief | 03/26/08
All that stuff still runs on the local PC  BagEmk | 03/25/08
Sure, but if all the desktop has to support is the browser, it can be a lot  DonnieBoy | 03/25/08
The browser doesn't need the desktop  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/25/08
Actually we're nowhere near  Martin Pilkington | 03/26/08
I agree  deaf_e_kate | 03/26/08
Closer than you think  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
Web apps don't have the same user experience  Martin Pilkington | 03/26/08
When You Internet Connection Is Dead + Resource Heavy Apps  TheGooch1 | 03/26/08
The web will NEVER match the desktop  frgough | 04/18/08
This whole everything in the cloud  frgough | 04/18/08
I prefer to think of the desktop as the place your apps are at.  ajole | 03/26/08
The Web is not equal on all machines...  notlehs | 03/26/08
Yes sir.  People | 03/25/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  pixolut | 03/26/08
Desktop metaphor doesn't work for the web  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
What I Want  andycher | 03/26/08
That's an argument for web apps  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
He punctuated his sarcasm with:  btljooz | 03/26/08
Yup, the "P" is PC is there for a reason.  TheTruthisOutThere@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  david.kreymerman@... | 03/26/08
Those predictions were premature but it doesn't make them wrong  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
Need? No.  Gerry_z | 03/26/08
Sun Network Appliances From 1995  TheGooch1 | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  paul_williams@... | 03/26/08
I don't think we want either one of those options  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  RocketEater | 03/26/08
Printing needs work  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/26/08
Bunk  SteveMak | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  etschuetz@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  morph000 | 03/26/08
True as Hell!!!  einsteinze2nd@... | 03/26/08
that acctually does not come under "work"  zeshu@... | 03/26/08
Other than gaming........  Budman o Riverside | 03/26/08
oh comeon people...  zeshu@... | 03/26/08
Yes, I do WORK using a browser  wwinfield | 03/26/08
You Got That Right  TheGooch1 | 03/26/08
..besides you need to run your upcomming 6 cores  zeshu@... | 03/26/08
then why do we need p-4s???  zeshu@... | 03/26/08
then why do we need p-4s???  john.lellis@... | 03/26/08
Computation  oliver_foster@... | 03/26/08
Desktops are not dead. nor dying.  ajole | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  dlosman@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  mollenhourb@... | 03/26/08
Slowing ISPs do NOT = Dying Desktops!!!  btljooz | 03/26/08
A plugin can NOT slow down a computer unless  LittleGuy | 03/26/08
Another lure to pay by the key stroke...  mikifinaz1@... | 03/26/08
Thank you! n/t  btljooz | 03/26/08
RE: No Mention Of Dedicated PC's  lmenningen | 03/26/08
wrong headed  w_c_mead | 03/26/08
not happening anytime soon...  abond@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  fleury@... | 03/26/08
When I can put 4 TB on a laptop let me know  Jetranger | 03/26/08
RE: 4TB on a laptop  harrisharris | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  machilders@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Baer | 03/26/08
Maybe a slow death...  jojoleb@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  I_Byte | 03/26/08
Browser or desktop?  markyannone | 03/26/08
oos, eyeos, etc. will sure soon make it  croser | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  neonoma | 03/26/08
Yes but lack on technology  magallanes | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  brimedd | 03/26/08
The Maturing of Services  gavin.bollard@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  LeeC | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft  katherand@... | 03/26/08
Back to the Mainframe?  PlanBForOpenOffice | 03/26/08
Wrong conclusion  balsover | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  IBKrusty | 03/26/08
Where is the logic?  bcunnien@... | 03/26/08
I have the noose around my neck; I'm going to do it this time with this tub  rtirman37@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Main Street | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  rhett@... | 03/26/08
RE: the death of the desktop?????  BJ_Willson@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  BJ_Willson@... | 03/26/08
Exactly so  eMJayy | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  button56@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  5th Regimental Combat Team | 03/26/08
Ed Burnette sounds like Bill Gates  james.faction | 03/26/08
Total agreement here  eMJayy | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  kalestarler@... | 03/26/08
Too impatient to read all the talkback....  c.wright@... | 03/26/08
Not just NO....  Crestview | 03/26/08
Another reason desktops will not die:  btljooz | 03/26/08
I don't think so ...  mwagner@... | 03/26/08
All those plug-ins  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/28/08
Death of the desktop??? sure..  washington.rodriguez | 03/26/08
please  pawwof | 03/26/08
No, no, no! (Think "Anonymous" et al cybercriminals)  archetuthus | 03/26/08
Complete Drivel  mydasx | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  KingSatan | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  way_z | 03/26/08
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RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  gmureddu@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop; no time soon.  Cayble | 03/26/08
Death of Desktop  stomfi@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  eMJayy | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  jurgen.manycolored@... | 03/26/08
Death of the desktop?  dfdoler | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  AVWilliams | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  ernest@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  richardh9935@... | 03/26/08
Netscape Communicator  jabailo1 | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  FlatAffect | 03/26/08
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RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  jemd@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Eleutherios | 03/26/08
Scientific Study?  wjosia@... | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  wfranklin20005 | 03/26/08
I might point out here  tracy anne | 03/26/08
But think about the Enterprise!  mikemmacd | 03/26/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  jasahasch@... | 03/26/08
Eventually and Gradually  waqar@... | 03/26/08
This article is 1990's SUN all over again  jimk_z | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  PClayden52@... | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  pwcdr | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  vilppuu@... | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  YeaiBetYouDo | 03/27/08
The browser doesn't cut it...  LucasKorso | 03/27/08
Googlesoft  dr_agon | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  pshearing@... | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  ModelA12 | 03/27/08
I will buy it  LucasKorso | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  alcontejr@... | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  JacquesR_z | 03/27/08
from a private independent  mdbobbo | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  MarkHarrison | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  james.strange@... | 03/27/08
RE: Clueless wife...  agohige | 03/27/08
RE: Clueless wife...  gnugen | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Trauk | 03/27/08
Whatever works.  joe.smetona@... | 03/27/08
I've already seen the death of desktop apps  burtoni | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  mavedrive | 03/27/08
But AIR and Flash cause vendor lock-in  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 03/28/08
Death of what? Whos stash you been hitting?  l.m.moseley@... | 03/27/08
The things you find fun might not be fun for others  dkusnetzkyZDNet Moderator | 03/28/08
Death of the desktop, I don't think so  rgg331 | 03/27/08
My Desktop, My Apps, My Documents  blc1839 | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  vindersnodz@... | 03/27/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Mil-spec-guy | 03/28/08
Desktop: My death is greatly exaggerated  TtfnJohn | 03/29/08
Not the same as 80s thin client  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 04/03/08
But that requires and OS and a desktop  frgough | 04/18/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  hvd@... | 03/29/08
Local web server might be easier  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 04/03/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  Laurie.Nylund@... | 03/30/08
Good points  Ed BurnetteZDNet Moderator | 04/03/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  cbepurush | 03/31/08
This is Dsconcerting  Calknight | 03/31/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  cathar.gnostic@... | 04/03/08
Maintain the desktop....  milton@... | 04/18/08
Graphic apps still need a desktop  tunghoy | 04/18/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop -- Control, Control  tigerjim49 | 04/18/08
Balony, Ed !  babyboomer57 | 04/18/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  mwwhughes | 04/18/08
BIG IT Guy  proton_z | 04/19/08
The desktop will not die, and here's why.  CobraA1 | 04/19/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  rdhalsteatzd | 04/20/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  hdn.de | 04/21/08
Desktops out-perform notebooks...  Feldwebel Wolfenstool | 12/17/08
For sure!...  JCitizen | 12/18/08
RE: Microsoft, Apple, and the death of the desktop  jimk_z | 12/17/08
Ah yes, another "the desktop is dead"  CobraA1 | 12/17/08
Not Dead Just Evolving  PedroTabs | 12/17/08
Let dreamers dream. As far out of reality as the dream may be.  Cayble | 12/17/08
Cayble...damn you got it right  don_the_newbie | 12/17/08
I will always prefer desktop to cloud.  BillDem | 12/18/08
These things would have to happen first...  JCitizen | 12/18/08
RE: My Cold Dead Finger......  livefree | 12/19/08
It isn't this week, but the next  eagle72al | 12/21/08
The Internet does not follow you. You follow the Internet!  aleizabar | 12/22/08

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